**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Sep 14 02:59:56 2008 Sep 14 03:07:21 http://www.amazon.com/Sandisk-MicroSDHC-Memory-Adapter-Packaging/dp/B000SMVQK8 Sep 14 03:10:48 anyone in here real familiar with om-conf Sep 14 03:10:50 I'd like to figure out how to turn off some compiling test Sep 14 03:29:16 anyone alive in here? :) busy hacking? Sep 14 03:35:40 scarlson, hey Sep 14 03:36:04 Good evening Sep 14 03:36:27 I was about to sleep :( Sep 14 03:36:32 ah Sep 14 03:36:40 Well then, good night! Sep 14 05:21:15 çàôé ç Sep 14 06:29:18 does the FDOM not come with an ssh server? Sep 14 06:31:33 hmm nevermind it does Sep 14 06:31:43 it just doesn't let you connect via wifi it seems Sep 14 06:55:25 hi Sep 14 07:09:32 hello Sep 14 07:09:53 hah, david beckham's team here in the states is the worst in their league Sep 14 07:21:31 how do I make it so that I am able to ssh into the FR via wireless? Sep 14 07:21:39 is it a dropbear setting? Sep 14 07:23:59 kelvie: dropbear was modified to only accept connections on usb interface. you need to modify the config to change it back to allowing on any inteface. Sep 14 07:28:15 rwhitby: yeah, I just figured that out Sep 14 07:28:19 it sources /etc/defaults/dropbear Sep 14 07:28:24 so if I remove that file it should be OK Sep 14 07:28:32 it does make sense, since there's no initial root password :p Sep 14 07:30:43 there isn't... *shudder* Sep 14 07:32:55 ruskie: yep.. but thanks to that, unless a hacker can manage to plug a usb cable into your phone while you're not looking, you're fine :) Sep 14 07:47:29 hi Sep 14 07:47:58 how can I make a extension use an other language defined in the locallang.xml? Sep 14 07:54:51 where can I find out information on how to create my own repository? Sep 14 07:54:56 I'm not sure how to update the Packages file Sep 14 07:55:13 (I've created some new packages using the bitbake from the MokoMakeFile) Sep 14 08:00:05 o_0 2008.08-update has a *multiverse* repository? Sep 14 08:02:08 the wiki description of it says its similar to ubuntus, but the descripton doesnt makeit sound like it is Sep 14 08:18:48 * Kamping_Kaiser considers rewording the top of the Multiverse page - its actually more like Universe, from what i can see. Sep 14 08:27:51 * ruskie wishes the hardware had a keypad and was a slider... I actually enjoy tactile feedback Sep 14 08:29:06 heh Sep 14 08:29:15 qwerty ftw Sep 14 08:29:27 dvorak ftw Sep 14 08:29:30 time for a little duke :) Sep 14 08:29:40 but I'd be happy with a generic phone keypad+support keys Sep 14 08:31:20 tactile feedback for lots of win, absolutely agree :) Sep 14 08:32:03 not to mention I wouldn't mind it being a phone first and a pda second... so I'd lose the touchpad... Sep 14 08:32:08 erm touchscreen even Sep 14 08:32:26 stick a keypad with plastics button on your screen and modify the OS accordingly ;) Sep 14 08:32:49 The touch screen opens a hole slew of possibilities, i'd really not want to be without that :) Sep 14 08:33:08 then you will have best of both worlds Sep 14 08:33:10 Batchy: Like the P900 did? :) Sep 14 08:33:15 yes Sep 14 08:33:38 well why not have a slider configuration... i.e. slide out a proper keypad while at the same time have the touchscreen Sep 14 08:33:45 In fact, someone could build a P910 style keypad as well... (that one was a proper hardware keypad, no press-through-to-the-touchscreen nastiness) Sep 14 08:33:50 I am actually adjusting to the touchscreen, I just wish it was more sensitive so I didn't have to use the stylus as much Sep 14 08:34:10 what browser should i install for fso3? Sep 14 08:34:22 with the screen I have a better excuse not to text someone back, "sorry I was driving" :) Sep 14 08:34:53 prjktdtnt: Shouldn't use the keypad either, just be a model citizen and you've got that excuse anyway :) Sep 14 08:35:12 leinir, I got good enough to text without looking Sep 14 08:35:32 still brain would be split between driving and typing Sep 14 08:35:33 prjktdtnt: You're still distracted, however :) Sep 14 08:35:55 this is true, i usually only sent a response of "driving" and then people knew Sep 14 08:35:59 imho phone calls/txt of any kind should not be allowed while driving... even with handsfree setups Sep 14 08:36:11 ruskie: It's like that in Sweden :) Sep 14 08:36:13 lol... I tend to look at my phone once a day if that... Sep 14 08:36:28 and I never respond to anything in an instant... Sep 14 08:36:32 ruskie, i think it should be ok with a handsfree - its less distracting then children Sep 14 08:36:33 i look at mine quite a lot, since its my watch as well while out and about ;) Sep 14 08:36:38 then agian, those should be banned as well :P Sep 14 08:36:42 I'm constantly on a phone, whether my cell or my phone at work Sep 14 08:36:49 Kamping_Kaiser, not really Sep 14 08:36:50 Kamping_Kaiser: i was just about to say something like that ;) Sep 14 08:36:52 it's still a distraction Sep 14 08:36:56 This is cool, I just found out about this project. Sep 14 08:36:59 and leinir I use mine as a clock too Sep 14 08:37:09 leinir, ;) Sep 14 08:37:17 as for kids... there should be atleast 2 adults in the car when kids are in the car Sep 14 08:37:18 I haven't worn a watch since the first time I got a cell Sep 14 08:37:29 one to calm them the other to drive and not be bothered by them Sep 14 08:37:37 Well, my first cell didn't have a clock on it :) Sep 14 08:37:39 I tend to not care about the time :) Sep 14 08:37:51 But my second one was a Nokia 3210, and well... yeah ;) Sep 14 08:37:54 but yeah I pull it out when I need the watch... Sep 14 08:38:14 but still I don't bother with missed calls or sms' Sep 14 08:38:19 ruskie: that isn't always possible, especially when you're a single mother or father Sep 14 08:38:30 true... Sep 14 08:38:39 sms is vital to me - a phone which doesn't do that properly is well... a hindrance :) Sep 14 08:38:44 of course one can always try to educate the kids... Sep 14 08:39:00 I am at work more than I'm at home so SMS is also very important to me Sep 14 08:39:03 leinir, lol... I tend to prefer email or im... I so wish there was a jabber only client for the s60v3... Sep 14 08:39:08 Is the mail client in 2008 usable, or am I the only one having problems convincing it to work? Sep 14 08:39:25 Anyone running qtopia? Sep 14 08:39:30 viq: I've never gotten it to do anything other than SMS Sep 14 08:39:32 ruskie: Series 60 jabber client? Hmm... i'm pretty sure there is one... Sep 14 08:39:45 * Kamping_Kaiser is waiting for illume-config to install - its taking its time. Sep 14 08:39:53 leinir, and that isn't java Sep 14 08:39:57 prjktdtnt: may I ask what did you try? Sep 14 08:40:02 ruskie: Hehe, yeah ;) Sep 14 08:40:09 leinir, and of course free software Sep 14 08:40:23 viq: Google apps for your domain with IMAP Sep 14 08:41:18 Yeah, I tried google's imap as well, it claims "can't find domain" or something like that Sep 14 08:41:22 My own imaps server as well Sep 14 08:41:33 gah... why is it so hard to find a couple of tiny pasive speakers... Sep 14 08:42:20 leinir, ruskie - quick google brought this ;) http://pdis.hiit.fi/pdis/download/jabber/README Sep 14 08:43:27 hmm Sep 14 08:44:26 how long is to long for something to be left installing? its not a very big app either :\ Sep 14 08:45:51 Kamping_Kaiser: I never had anything successfully install via the installer app Sep 14 08:46:03 I actually removed the link to it as it seemed to cause more harm than good for me Sep 14 08:46:15 I did install a couple of things through it. Sep 14 08:46:23 prjktdtnt, i've had a few things install ( i think). so far just this one is failling Sep 14 08:46:39 Say, terminal, xterm, some games, some other things. But eg illume-config failed. Sep 14 08:47:01 viq, xterm, terminal are two that have worked for me, illume-config is failing. Sep 14 08:47:01 mine I left running for 10 minutes (can't remember what it was) so I just elected to use the CLI from my laptop Sep 14 08:47:14 Shlee: I am Sep 14 08:47:23 ended up getting GPRS working and spent about 20 minutes in the IRC on my laptop through my phone Sep 14 08:47:55 Kamping_Kaiser: yeah, illume-config failed for me too, install it through CLI Sep 14 08:48:40 viq, i'm getting an error about obaining administrative lock via cli - i assume the install thing isnt cleaning up properly Sep 14 08:48:56 killall packagekitd Sep 14 08:49:02 then run opkg again Sep 14 08:49:03 Kamping_Kaiser: "pkill packagekit" Sep 14 08:49:22 viq, cheers. Sep 14 08:50:05 Hello, I'm just playing with FR a bit, should cat /dev/input/event2 (should be top accelerometer) produce any output? Sep 14 08:50:18 how is the theming done? I would love to get rid of the bottom bar from the main screen since I already removed the assassin link anyway Sep 14 08:52:18 hello.i ve a problem with mplayer from 2008.8: i can t play mms://vipnrj.yacast.net/nostalgie_webradio01... Sep 14 08:52:41 of course i have the network Sep 14 08:55:19 ahh, I can read the accelerometer output only if gesd is not running, weird... Sep 14 09:01:43 is there anyone there...usually there is a lot of activity in this channel... Sep 14 09:02:14 its idle-time Sep 14 09:02:15 *piep* Sep 14 09:03:10 tomorrow my freerunner will arrive :D Sep 14 09:03:36 bipak_ I remember when mine finally arrived, i was so excited Sep 14 09:03:46 :D Sep 14 09:03:54 i hope you still are Sep 14 09:04:36 or did it idsappoint you? Sep 14 09:04:39 i hope not :D Sep 14 09:05:00 bipak_ I haven't turned on my old phone since I received my FR Sep 14 09:05:02 ;) Sep 14 09:05:13 hehehe that sounds good Sep 14 09:05:37 my only complaint is that it can take a long time to flash it and while it's being flashed it is unusable Sep 14 09:06:05 lol Sep 14 09:06:15 prjktdtnt: well, don't flash then :) Sep 14 09:06:36 You can have the system on a card, that's what I do right now ;) Sep 14 09:06:37 lindi- I don't anymore now that i'm on the newest version of FDOM Sep 14 09:06:53 couldn't you just test new version on the sd card? should me much faster Sep 14 09:07:03 viq: :) Sep 14 09:07:30 bipak_ yes, I was having problems with using the SD at first, it wasn't properly seated so it wasn't reading. Sep 14 09:07:44 FDOM is a nice release.. Going to try out qtopia Sep 14 09:08:05 speaking of SD cards, the problem with loosing the partition table only happens with larger SD cards correct? or is it not matter what the size is Sep 14 09:08:25 It only happens on SDHC cards, yeah :) Sep 14 09:08:31 Shlee: qtopia is ok but the handset volume is insanely quiet Sep 14 09:09:16 it's fairly polished on looks for sure Sep 14 09:09:52 It's a little annoying flashing on windows seems to take over an hour.. Sep 14 09:09:58 bye Sep 14 09:10:43 prjktdtnt: my diagnosis at the moment is that qtmail doesn't like encryption Sep 14 09:10:57 viq: I figured as much, have you tried unencrypted? Sep 14 09:11:13 i don't have an unencrypted server to test Sep 14 09:11:20 It complained about wrong password ;) I'll look at my server config Sep 14 09:11:52 * prjktdtnt wishes he had orange juice so he could make screwdrivers Sep 14 09:12:25 that's what I should write for the OM, something that pulls drink information from the net Sep 14 09:12:37 if only I knew how to program lol Sep 14 09:13:45 prjktdtnt: connects without ssl Sep 14 09:13:57 viq: well at least we know it's an issue with SSL then Sep 14 09:14:28 yeah Sep 14 09:14:55 I'll have to see if qtopia's bug tracker has any info on it Sep 14 09:15:22 I remember finding something about that in google Sep 14 09:15:58 http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td686718 Sep 14 09:16:23 Was about to paste the same link ;) Sep 14 09:16:41 viq: gotta love google :) Sep 14 09:17:05 although it has info on how to make it work if you want to build it manually Sep 14 09:19:15 Well, building seems to work only on linux I believe, and my linux box is in serious need of maintenance or reinstallation Sep 14 09:20:04 viq: running on something that ISN'T linux? blasphemy Sep 14 09:20:35 I haven't used windows (outside of my workplace or when I had my short streak as a WoW fanatic) in 3+ years Sep 14 09:20:36 Eh? Who said I'm not running nix ? :P Sep 14 09:20:51 viq: *whew* ok Sep 14 09:20:54 that's true Sep 14 09:20:59 OpenBSD :P Sep 14 09:21:21 I'm a FreeBSD guy when it comes to BSD but nix is nix (unless it's suse) Sep 14 09:21:28 lol Sep 14 09:21:58 windows is fun and helps to focus once in a while, http://xkcd.com/350/ shows why Sep 14 09:22:11 ronny: well played Sep 14 09:22:42 ronny: I thought about working for microsoft once: http://xkcd.com/323/ Sep 14 09:22:51 "You know, normal people just have aquariums" :D Sep 14 09:23:37 "Viruses so far have been really disappointing on the 'disable the internet' front, and time is running out. When Linux/Mac win in a decade or so the game will be over." Sep 14 09:23:59 "remember windows ME?" Sep 14 09:24:00 I knew it Sep 14 09:24:27 prjktdtnt: wine is so good it can run windows viruses, and mac is becoming an attractive target too ;) Sep 14 09:24:47 well, as far as i understood large part of the transfer infratructure dont run anything that resembles x86 and windows ( Sep 14 09:24:55 so virueses cant break that Sep 14 09:25:16 only theservers that run linux/windows on x86 are at danger Sep 14 09:25:22 viq: and I sit back and laugh at both. I helped my friend install linux and the first thing he asked "What is the best linux anti-virus?" he about fell over in shock when I replied with "What is an anti-virus?" Sep 14 09:26:45 and then after he regained consiousness he looked like the happiest person alive Sep 14 09:27:11 especially because in the past he had always critized my choice to use linux and my constant complaints when I had no alternative to using a windows machine Sep 14 09:27:46 he still uses windows primarily but he does keep that same linux box updated for when his windows machine isn't working lol Sep 14 09:27:54 lol Sep 14 09:28:15 I found it to be a small victory but a victory none-the-less Sep 14 09:28:48 I was going to do something on my OM but now I can't remember for the death of me what it was lol Sep 14 09:31:19 has anyone written an app yet to sync the contacts from 2008 to Thunderbird? Sep 14 09:31:51 or at least a script to export SIM contacts Sep 14 09:32:23 I accidentally messed up a phone number the other day (before installing raster's keyboard) and now I have no way to get a hold of him till he sends me a text again Sep 14 09:36:46 prjktdtnt: you can import contacts from a vcf file, and I believe thunderbird should be able to export them as such Sep 14 09:38:26 viq: I'm looking to go the opposite direction from my SIM Sep 14 09:39:15 oh, the other way around Sep 14 09:39:59 I think that app has an option to import contacts from SIM, and it keeps them in an sqlite database Sep 14 09:40:52 I keep my contacts on my SIM Sep 14 09:41:03 I never store on my phone Sep 14 09:41:37 I made that mistake once, the phone fell in the sink and I lost all my contacts. there were a few people I never heard from again Sep 14 09:46:53 Where do pics/music have to be placed on the phone for qtopia apps to find them? Sep 14 09:47:22 /media/card is where they look by default if I remember correctly Sep 14 09:47:39 cool *check* Sep 14 09:48:04 that's where I put mine anyway and it worked Sep 14 09:48:55 It worked ;) Sep 14 09:49:05 rock on Sep 14 09:49:16 \o/ Sep 14 09:50:21 good morning Sep 14 09:51:04 what is the alsa mixer setting for the microphone? I have people always complaining how quiet I am when I talk on the phone Sep 14 09:55:35 nm found it Sep 14 09:58:08 now to hope i got the asound.state file modified the way i'd like Sep 14 09:59:15 Btw, since you seem to know stuff :D I can ssh in to the phone, i can ping the other computer in the LAN but not access programs like a webserver without a proxy from the computer the neo is connected to. HOw to I make windows forward more than just icmp? Sep 14 10:00:29 hi! me use fdom 13092008 and wants to have a look on remoko... how to start? Sep 14 10:01:18 data_jepp: looks like ur dns is wrong setted Sep 14 10:02:49 But without dns, i should still be able to download from a local http sever i can ping? (direct ip, not hostname) Sep 14 10:03:09 yes, through ip only Sep 14 10:03:33 not through a html-form Sep 14 10:03:34 Gah, hmm. Sep 14 10:03:54 try wget the *.html Sep 14 10:04:02 No, i use wget direct like this wget http://10.0.0.2/mov.avi Sep 14 10:04:15 looks good.... Sep 14 10:04:33 and you can ping 10.0.0.2? Sep 14 10:04:33 Im wgetting trough the proxy, when its done ill test without proxy Sep 14 10:04:42 Yes, that works it seems Sep 14 10:04:49 ... Sep 14 10:05:32 no1 installed remoko on fdom? Sep 14 10:06:38 hama: cant ping 10.0.0.2, but i can ping the router 10.0.0.1 Sep 14 10:06:48 hama: doesn't it come with remoko now? Sep 14 10:09:25 viq: thats what i thought.. but cant see anything here... Sep 14 10:10:11 try from terminal Sep 14 10:10:27 me did with re-tabtab... Sep 14 10:10:38 or opkg search *remoko* Sep 14 10:11:14 ok so I found one of the audio channels that modifies the microphone volume, what file do I have to edit to make sure that it turns up the Mic when a call comes in (Mono Sidetone Playback seems to do the job) Sep 14 10:11:22 nm Sep 14 10:11:29 good ol find / -name "*.state" Sep 14 10:11:30 found it Sep 14 10:11:48 where is it? Sep 14 10:12:15 /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/ is the dir with the .state files Sep 14 10:13:50 control.12 Sep 14 10:13:59 hmm, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ReMoko writes: fdom: remoko runs out-of-the-box... Sep 14 10:14:27 the only problem is that you can then hear the gsm interference in the call, not sure if that is because of how close the phone is to the other though Sep 14 10:14:52 Is there a gui for the volume controls? or only the states Sep 14 10:15:12 Shlee: alsamixer on terminal Sep 14 10:18:01 qtopia is one pretty setup. Sep 14 10:18:11 Just need to increase the volume. Sep 14 10:18:26 Shlee: just remember that alsamixer doesn't automatically update the state files Sep 14 10:18:33 Nods. Sep 14 10:18:55 it does however give you a good idea of what value to put in the controls Sep 14 10:19:36 after chaged it "alsactl store" will do the job Sep 14 10:21:03 hama: for asound.state it does but I'm pretty sure that alsactl doesn't modify files such as gsmhandset.state Sep 14 10:22:17 prjktdtnt: so they override the values u mean? Sep 14 10:23:05 hama: the gsmhandest.state or anything from /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios will overwrite asound.state when the scenario is called by the phone's respective packages Sep 14 10:23:26 i see Sep 14 10:25:08 easiest example is when you answer a call that is set for the handset speaker it sets asound.state to match gsmhandset.state Sep 14 10:26:20 at least that's how it is with FDOM Sep 14 10:26:43 Which would also apply to 2008.8-update Sep 14 10:28:02 so a scrpt what calls alsactl... and after that wrote the cahnges to the other cfg would be nice :) Sep 14 10:29:05 I don't know what calls that and where Sep 14 10:50:41 is there solution to missing file from dropbear (ssh ? ) Sep 14 10:56:46 ~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~ Sep 14 10:59:21 can someone look at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Repository - i just made the 'ubuntu comparison' comment Sep 14 10:59:26 wondering if theres any thoughts on it Sep 14 10:59:52 has anybody here already played with Opie? Sep 14 11:02:49 I flahed FSO ms3 and can't ssh in, already tried rebooting Sep 14 11:02:56 is there something i'm missing? Sep 14 11:03:03 hi Kamping_Kaiser Sep 14 11:03:20 Tm_T, hey mate. Sep 14 11:09:35 1 question for using debian: is suspend working here stable? Sep 14 11:10:37 Zorkman i have the same thing - i suppose that newest packae of dropbear is invalid Sep 14 11:14:00 do you know any Feed reader for om2008 ? Sep 14 11:19:45 session -w jid:maar@jabberpl.org Sep 14 11:19:53 sorry Sep 14 11:21:44 Is wifi working with qtopia, is really not here. Sep 14 11:22:22 Cant deactive the connection, so i cant delete it. Really not nice. Were do I file a bugreport? Sep 14 11:33:22 hmm the phone isnt making any sounds when I have an incomming call is there any easy sullotion for this? Sep 14 11:33:39 spydon: turn it off, back on, don't suspend ;) Sep 14 11:33:59 already tried that :P Sep 14 11:34:11 heh Sep 14 11:34:18 try playing with alsamixer, I guess Sep 14 11:34:31 suspend is the root of all evil Sep 14 11:35:25 hehe Sep 14 11:35:43 well it shouldnt be alsamixer as other sounds work... Sep 14 11:37:57 perhaps pulseaudio, that thing never works correctly Sep 14 11:39:10 in 2007.2 I had to restart pulseaudio from time to time but then I also had to restart X for some strange reason to have sound work again Sep 14 11:44:03 The wifi is not working at all, checked wpa_cli and the router logs. Authenticats and diseappears, but still shows as connected even tough the router cant see it anymore :o Sep 14 11:44:57 jaj, lol I had it set to silent in settings XD Sep 14 11:45:07 sometimes it so easy solved that you miss it :P Sep 14 11:49:32 anyone knows how omview names its thumbnails? Sep 14 11:51:10 Hi! Sep 14 11:51:18 How do I upgrade all packages with Om2008.8? The gui only let me upgrade them one by one and opkg says "Could not obtain administrative lock"... Sep 14 11:52:22 you can ssh into the phone and do opkh update && opkg upgrade Sep 14 11:52:26 drjnut: pkill packagekitd Sep 14 11:52:28 *opkg Sep 14 11:52:41 torero, ok, thx! Sep 14 11:52:54 :) Sep 14 11:55:36 * drjnut iz upgrading! Sep 14 12:01:03 how do I turn the phone off when using FSO ? Sep 14 12:02:55 polz: Pressing the power button should pop ut a menu(?), or you kan use terminal if you have one and shutdown -h Sep 14 12:03:57 pressing the power button about 8 seconds should start the shutdown on fso Sep 14 12:04:20 data_jepp: uh, thats for 2007.2 Sep 14 12:11:42 ronny, that's for 2007.2 Sep 14 12:12:10 i've tried to press the power button for 10 second and when i release, it just go in suspende Sep 14 12:14:45 diego: for fdo pressing the power button will put it to sleep Sep 14 12:14:54 ops eh power off Sep 14 12:15:01 * ronny needs coffee Sep 14 12:33:50 hey Sep 14 12:33:56 how can i open the front fr cover? Sep 14 12:34:05 i want to put a screen protector... Sep 14 12:35:23 you need a guitar pick Sep 14 12:40:49 TAsn: remove the two #6 torx screws, then use a guitar pick to open the case (start at the end with the hole) - it has little plastic tabs inside which you can push with the guitar pick Sep 14 12:41:44 rwhitby, i hoped the torx screws part wasn't for the fr as well :( Sep 14 12:41:56 how am i supposed to get a screwdriver for that?! :) Sep 14 12:42:13 local electronics store Sep 14 12:43:37 how much is it? Sep 14 12:44:20 well anyhow, i aint got a local electronics store around here :) Sep 14 12:45:00 http://www.particlezoo.net/individual_pages/shop_higgsboson.html Sep 14 12:46:41 thanks Sep 14 12:46:49 im off to try my local hardware store ;0 Sep 14 12:59:32 somebody here using Luks for drive encryption and ran into trouble with the recent update of the kernel/cryptsetup? i cant figure it out Sep 14 13:01:05 whops... wrong channel my bad Sep 14 13:15:23 Guten morgen Zorkman, SpeedEvil ! Sep 14 13:17:04 haha got it :) Sep 14 13:25:29 ronny: I'm having the same problem as diego. It doesn't turn itself off, it just suspends Sep 14 13:26:37 polz: you need to press the power button in fso till the shutting down message comes up Sep 14 13:30:04 anyone know the formats for qtopia ringtones? Sep 14 13:34:00 i think it's anything the media player can play Sep 14 13:40:28 mp3 does't seem to work Sep 14 13:41:11 Have anyone successfully used a webcam with the fr? :P Sep 14 13:42:38 I have two (or actually one) questions... How do you use OpenMoko 2008.8? I'm struggling for 3-4 weeks already, with no success so far, and I think I'm going to use a sledgehammer soon... First, it goes to sleep after 10 seconds of "inactivity" while I'm trying to figure anything out (and breaks my desperate tries to do anything). Second, I just tried to perform a opkg upgrade (hoping that the new version won't sleep like that) and ... * Failed to download htt Sep 14 13:43:20 go to settings and turn of suspend Sep 14 13:43:26 (and how the fuck can I stop it from upgrading my kernel, it ruined my device and my qtopia like 10 times already) Sep 14 13:43:54 dns53: There is no such thing as settings on my image, and I can't upgrade to see if it has appeared. Sep 14 13:44:10 ahobohu: 1) download updated image, 2) look at illume-config-illume package =] Sep 14 13:44:43 settings should be part of the core image, illume-config also has something Sep 14 13:44:50 Mononoke: Will make update && make whatever-image on the source tree do? Sep 14 13:48:27 The illume-config package installs only .cfg files Sep 14 13:48:32 Will it help if I edit them? Sep 14 13:48:46 Hm, no Sep 14 13:49:20 andred: I think you should start with DISPLAY=:0 xset s off Sep 14 13:50:32 hey, i got a screen protector and i got it a little dirty Sep 14 13:50:35 and it's a bit sticky Sep 14 13:50:40 any tips on how to clean it? Sep 14 13:50:58 (it's sticky to start with, it just got dust that stuck to it. Sep 14 13:51:51 Mononoke: xset s off did it, thank you very much :) Sep 14 13:53:03 ahobohu: that's only temporary Sep 14 13:53:22 look at illume-config-illume package Sep 14 13:53:28 openmoko: 03rwhitby * r31 10mokomakefile/trunk/Makefile: Makefile: split u-boot into a separate target Sep 14 13:55:39 Is there any web page which hints me how to edit /etc/opkg/* files to reflect the current repositories I should be getting stuff from? Sep 14 13:56:54 ronny: I've tried holding it for more than 20s Sep 14 13:57:18 ronny: and it still just suspends Sep 14 14:07:53 So I did opkg upgrade... So now can I restore my kernel, which opkg upgrade destroyed, with cat /mykernel > /dev/mtd3? (I copied mtd3ro to that file before upgrading) Sep 14 14:09:27 Hm, I think I have to setup my own repository, the real ones don't have the packages at all Sep 14 14:17:38 hnn... anyone here? Sep 14 14:17:54 or is everyone still enjoying the weekend Sep 14 14:21:26 mmmmm Sep 14 14:21:48 My OM just turned off and now I have a blinking red LED.. any idea on the qtopia release? Sep 14 14:21:56 * Shlee grab charges Sep 14 14:32:51 hey Sep 14 14:33:01 what does a red light from my power button means? Sep 14 14:33:10 or even better, where can i read about it in the wiki? Sep 14 14:34:36 "charging" Sep 14 14:35:19 although its nearly constantly charging for me, at least while it has not crashed Sep 14 14:36:35 weird Sep 14 14:36:38 first time i have seen this :) Sep 14 14:36:50 and im charging for days now :) Sep 14 14:39:31 TAsn, I got a pack of cheap screen protectors, and I think that they have scratched quickly while the regular screen wasn't scratching :/ Sep 14 14:39:51 so? Sep 14 14:39:57 at least it's not the screen Sep 14 14:40:09 TAsn I can keep changing them of course, but now I'm thinking I would either get InvisibleShield or not bother Sep 14 14:40:41 i will just stick with this one until i will order invisi... Sep 14 14:41:15 TAsn well I the screen hadn't been scratching (yet) with use, and these quickly start to get light scratches I can see Sep 14 14:41:34 still, doesn't worth the risk :) Sep 14 14:43:01 the invi screenprotector works well, the bodykit wasnt a good shot imho Sep 14 14:43:48 TAsn yeah I guess they will protect the screen, and I can make 2 out of each sheet, but I took it apart to cut it larger than the plastic window, so I would wear clips/parts out opening and closing it Sep 14 14:44:07 yeah Sep 14 14:44:15 the taking the front panel out part Sep 14 14:44:20 is rather painful ;( Sep 14 14:45:11 Tanuva good to know! the invis one was lifetime, but twice what the pack of cheap ones cost (that I have to keep changing, or suffer using them) Sep 14 14:49:03 Infoport: it's not that it wears out quickly, but because of the roundness of the neo it simply doesnt fit that good and leaves loads of edges which attract dirt perfeclty Sep 14 14:53:11 Does any per chance know anything about the xserver-kdrive-glamo patch that fixed that x-coordinate bug with the touchscreen (when rotating to landscape ?) Sep 14 14:54:42 what's the dev name for the moko memory? Sep 14 14:54:47 i mean built in flash? Sep 14 14:59:52 I am having a good fight trying to compile... Sep 14 15:00:01 TAsn not sure Sep 14 15:00:10 did you look in /media Sep 14 15:00:16 it's not mounted Sep 14 15:00:18 that's for sure Sep 14 15:00:23 i want the device name Sep 14 15:00:28 (im booting from sd) Sep 14 15:00:33 ah Sep 14 15:00:44 looked at the fstab? Sep 14 15:01:27 dev/disk ? Sep 14 15:01:56 /dev/mtdblock4 / jffs2 rw,noatime 1 1 Sep 14 15:02:02 the wiki says that wifi is unstable in om2008.8. is this still true? Sep 14 15:02:24 ah yes Sep 14 15:02:36 .. Ihave had good experience so far with wifi. Sep 14 15:02:43 using 2008.8update images Sep 14 15:02:49 ah ok Sep 14 15:03:02 Did they fix the suspend prob? Sep 14 15:03:07 so i will install this image when my fr arrives Sep 14 15:03:08 the signal is a good 20-40% weaker than my laptop... from the same distance to my AP Sep 14 15:03:09 I've never gotten my wireless to connect encrypted in OM2008.8 Sep 14 15:03:38 or OM2008.8-update Sep 14 15:03:50 TAsn: the fstab says /dev/mtdblock4 (for Root and Pseudo what ever that means) Sep 14 15:04:01 scarlson: he's gone Sep 14 15:04:01 WEP? Sep 14 15:04:13