**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Sep 25 02:59:57 2008 Sep 25 02:59:59 danwink: Does this happen during the booting process? Sep 25 03:00:08 looks like it suspends Sep 25 03:00:11 and resume is broken Sep 25 03:00:42 I've had the phone suspend during a restart of x, and I had to keep tapping the power button to let it progress 5 seconds of the boot at a time Sep 25 03:01:13 no it went all the way to home screen Sep 25 03:01:25 yeah Sep 25 03:01:44 im looking forward to 2008.10 Sep 25 03:01:47 can you get in through usb networking? Sep 25 03:02:27 danwink: I just disabled Suspend... Sep 25 03:08:10 im getting frustrated... Sep 25 03:08:15 im going to try again tomorrow Sep 25 03:08:21 night guys, thanks for the help Sep 25 03:16:54 * bamccaig can't get his FreeRunner out of suspend again! >:( Sep 25 03:17:49 * bamccaig and somehow launched the Web browser in the process of trying. >:( Sep 25 03:18:51 I actually think it is unsuspended (I can barely make out the screen), but the screen is way too dark to see... It's practically black... Is this a known issue? Is there a solution? Sep 25 03:19:22 well u'd know if usb works Sep 25 03:19:24 and u can ssh in... Sep 25 03:19:38 Well I am ssh'd in... It's still working fnie. Sep 25 03:19:43 s/fnie/fine/ Sep 25 03:19:45 bamccaig meant: Well I am ssh'd in... It's still working fine. Sep 25 03:19:48 then its alive Sep 25 03:19:53 it may not have suspended at all Sep 25 03:19:57 This I know... I want my screen back! Sep 25 03:19:58 is an apm -s process hanging about? Sep 25 03:21:32 Apparently, yes... :-X Sep 25 03:21:41 aha1 Sep 25 03:21:49 u fell victim to the qpe/qtopia hang bug Sep 25 03:21:51 ie Sep 25 03:22:01 e/eillume said to ompower "hey.. lets suspend" Sep 25 03:22:05 At least, there is an apm running and when I `cat' it's /proc//cmdline it outputs "apm-s" Sep 25 03:22:12 ompower, seeing no one had insisted on a "no.. keep the cpu alive" Sep 25 03:22:18 said "ok.. apm -s.. lets suspend" Sep 25 03:22:19 ... Sep 25 03:22:30 and well qpe use apmbios to inser a hook into apm suspend Sep 25 03:22:41 so it gets to pause the suspend and do stuff before suspend Sep 25 03:22:48 like set the modem to "suspend" mode Sep 25 03:22:51 (gms modem) Sep 25 03:22:55 its at this point things fail Sep 25 03:22:59 qpe hooks into suspend Sep 25 03:23:04 but never lets suspend continue Sep 25 03:23:10 so u're hung basically Sep 25 03:23:19 killall apm will get your backlight back Sep 25 03:23:19 :) Sep 25 03:24:12 \o/ Sep 25 03:24:23 Thank you. So is that a clean workaround or is it messy? :-X Sep 25 03:24:58 messy Sep 25 03:25:07 its a qpe + calypso gsm modem issue Sep 25 03:25:11 what precisely - dont know Sep 25 03:25:23 but somewhere betwene qpe and gsm modem lies the fix Sep 25 03:25:26 openmoko: 03marek * r4667 10/trunk/src/host/pye17/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Sep 25 03:25:26 openmoko: add ecore_evas support Sep 25 03:25:26 openmoko: minor fixes Sep 25 03:25:31 a lot of people suffer from this Sep 25 03:27:44 Hmmm... So is it OK to continue working after it or is it best to reboot? Sep 25 03:28:55 Argh... Now it won't even shutdown with the power button... :-X Sep 25 03:29:27 its ok Sep 25 03:29:54 Is apm responsible for the shutdown or is that just a side effect? Sep 25 03:30:06 hmm Sep 25 03:30:15 shutdown... Sep 25 03:30:35 actually... Sep 25 03:30:40 i think its a packaging problem Sep 25 03:31:48 actualkly no Sep 25 03:31:49 thats fine Sep 25 03:32:04 not sure why Sep 25 03:32:09 u hold down pwer for > 2sec Sep 25 03:32:50 I held it down for like 10... Nothing. Sep 25 03:33:11 odd Sep 25 03:33:49 just reboot/reset and see if it works then Sep 25 03:34:34 reboot/reset how? :P Sep 25 03:34:52 I could pull the battery/USB cable... If I must. Sep 25 03:36:35 pull battery and usb Sep 25 03:36:39 fast and simple Sep 25 03:36:41 wont kill anything Sep 25 03:38:31 openmoko: 03marek * r4668 10/trunk/src/host/pye17/ecore_evas/ (. Makefile ecore_evas.override ecore_evasmodule.c): add missing files :| Sep 25 03:43:39 I think I'm going to bed... I gotta work in the morning... :( Sep 25 03:56:49 openmoko: 03tick * r4669 10/trunk/feeds/community-repository/file-index.txt: [community repository] fix the typo on version, my bad. Sorry. Sep 25 04:07:05 openmoko: 03tick * r4670 10/trunk/feeds/community-repository/file-index.txt: [community repository] move back to r27, for the author remove the package. Sep 25 04:08:00 what's uboot-envedit ? Sep 25 05:00:19 openmoko: 03tick * r4671 10/trunk/src/target/opkg/libopkg/ (libopkg.c opkg.c opkg_cmd.c pkg.c): [opkg] fixing typo & incompatible part to gcc 4.3.2 Sep 25 05:48:56 building a copy of SHR now since I've tested about every other image there is now Sep 25 05:49:14 does anyone know how to reverse the changes made to u-boot when installing debian though so flash is the default again? Sep 25 05:53:38 yay Sep 25 05:53:40 http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/20126bfa39235a51bd9fed0822478c02.png Sep 25 05:53:53 and http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/a05d4417e5cd0f76583e65cdd76e613a.png Sep 25 05:54:44 carsten added chinese/japanes keyboard? Sep 25 05:55:56 no Sep 25 05:56:30 but i have plans to make illume's kbd able to do it Sep 25 05:56:43 if pinyin is like romaji in japanese (or kanna) Sep 25 05:56:53 it can definitely work given the right dictionary input Sep 25 05:57:11 it's alwayys been able to display chinese/japanese etc. t5ho Sep 25 05:57:15 anyone having screwiness with call volume being really low in qtopia? Sep 25 05:57:25 even though it has been turned up Sep 25 05:58:49 what is pinyin ? Sep 25 05:59:20 i want to have a kanji keyboard with scrollbars Sep 25 06:01:14 raster: can you specify a dictionary giving several output values for a given input value ? Sep 25 06:01:33 no Sep 25 06:01:36 BUT Sep 25 06:01:44 that is something i toyted with as an idea Sep 25 06:01:48 like "ni" -> "你" or "尼" Sep 25 06:01:48 i'd need to revamp the dict format Sep 25 06:01:51 but it'd be possible Sep 25 06:02:02 the original driver was italian Sep 25 06:02:11 ie you can input the base of a word Sep 25 06:02:14 ok Sep 25 06:02:19 let me do german - as its the same Sep 25 06:02:29 "essen" to eat Sep 25 06:02:36 genau :) Sep 25 06:03:28 * roh looks quite irritated that there is actually unicode working in here Sep 25 06:03:28 if u put in "esse" it could offer "esse, essen, isst" Sep 25 06:03:37 as those are the conjuugated forms Sep 25 06:03:55 asd u say for chinise Sep 25 06:03:55 same Sep 25 06:03:57 and japanese Sep 25 06:04:25 bitchx in a screen on another machine connected via ssh... displayed by gnome terminal... scary and impressive that such things 'just work' nowadays Sep 25 06:04:53 i wonder if i could paste it... 你尼 Sep 25 06:04:58 how do you express that in the dictionary ? Sep 25 06:04:58 sakana -> さかな,魚,肴,坂な,茶菓な, .... (etc.) Sep 25 06:05:10 (in japanese the list of possible matches is enormous) Sep 25 06:05:14 esse -> isst ? Sep 25 06:05:17 yeah Sep 25 06:05:19 irregular Sep 25 06:05:24 looks fscked in the input line, is fine afterwards.. weird Sep 25 06:05:36 same for laufen Sep 25 06:05:37 raster: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/20126bfa39235a51bd9fed0822478c02.png and http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/a05d4417e5cd0f76583e65cdd76e613a.png Sep 25 06:05:51 raster sakana doesnt display here Sep 25 06:06:02 and in japanese you have 2 choices for every "easy" letter Sep 25 06:06:24 lauf -> laufe, laufen, läuft ... Sep 25 06:06:39 the problem is finding data to build such a dict Sep 25 06:06:44 yeah Sep 25 06:06:48 thats why i went with the simplest dict form around Sep 25 06:07:14 alpa i know :) Sep 25 06:07:19 but in the case of chinese, you only provide full matches I guess... Sep 25 06:07:20 alphaone: i saw :) Sep 25 06:07:26 in germany you might parse duden.de Sep 25 06:07:38 playya: actually more complicated Sep 25 06:07:43 u have romanji as well Sep 25 06:08:18 and expensive Sep 25 06:08:21 raster: So all that's missing is an input method now :-) Sep 25 06:08:56 i also has the feeling integrating existing input methods should be done before inventing a totally new one ;) Sep 25 06:09:00 eh have Sep 25 06:09:05 fsck.. should go to sleep Sep 25 06:09:30 yeah, there are already existing input methods Sep 25 06:09:31 alphaone: p well as such - with the right dictionary format and handling of it i can getr rid of an input method Sep 25 06:09:34 but for now - u need one Sep 25 06:09:36 at least I know SCIM Sep 25 06:09:39 and use pinyin/romaji Sep 25 06:11:27 roh: as such - not inventing a new input method, just in improving western language support for non-english (ie more regular europeant languages that tend to conjugate regularly and a lot - eg tenior said his italian dict has 400k+ entires and not complete due to all the conjugations of words, not because italian has so many words) Sep 25 06:12:07 so in makign the dictionary faster/better/smaller for such sutiations i CAN also solve asian input methods Sep 25 06:12:12 its a bi-product Sep 25 06:12:27 with just a little thought i can tackle the lot. Sep 25 06:12:36 the real problem is "input data" Sep 25 06:12:42 ie how to generate such dictionaries Sep 25 06:12:43 from what Sep 25 06:12:44 etc. Sep 25 06:13:12 how hard is drawing + ocr Sep 25 06:13:17 raster yeah.. but for now i think people would be happy to have something existing which works and is known and then everybody can experiment with better methods and have 'something which does the job' before Sep 25 06:13:32 already there Sep 25 06:13:35 thats my point Sep 25 06:13:35 scim sounds good, if one can adapt it to touchscreen properly Sep 25 06:13:37 thats done Sep 25 06:13:42 what to fix/improve next Sep 25 06:14:02 i know i'm not touching scim as that just needs packaging Sep 25 06:14:13 scim will of courzse want to display its little inptu method window Sep 25 06:14:32 whihc is override-redirect Sep 25 06:14:37 so out of e/illume's control Sep 25 06:14:45 i can cleave packaging that up to others Sep 25 06:14:52 e already supports input methdo setup Sep 25 06:14:57 so e will launch scim for you Sep 25 06:15:03 and set up all the env variables etc. Sep 25 06:15:11 ah.. i see.. nice Sep 25 06:15:19 just select the input method in e's input method support config dialog Sep 25 06:15:26 scim, uim, iimf already have profiles Sep 25 06:15:31 i use scim myself Sep 25 06:15:35 :) Sep 25 06:15:52 u can create new .uim files - e comes with a tool to create them Sep 25 06:16:03 (enlightenment_imf) Sep 25 06:17:25 thats why i'm not concerned - just needs packaging and inclusion and the input method support dialog to be exposed Sep 25 06:17:34 at least form my point of view that work is all done Sep 25 06:17:59 i was just looking at whats next as i do need to improve the dict and dict format - get more speed out of the lookups etc. Sep 25 06:18:24 as the way i did it is very low on memory usage - very very very, but... its not hyper-fast given the fast permutations of input it has to look up for fuzz correction Sep 25 06:21:32 n8 Sep 25 06:22:01 paint + mms :D Sep 25 06:23:50 hm .. multiplayer whiteboard/paint-thingy over internet Sep 25 06:25:07 ? Sep 25 06:26:11 anyone having screwiness with call volume being really low in qtopia even with the call volume turned up? Sep 25 06:27:01 raster: 1) using stylus to draw non-latin characters, optimizing it and sending it as monochrome mms Sep 25 06:27:22 or, draw whatever Sep 25 06:27:43 hmm Sep 25 06:27:44 ok Sep 25 06:27:47 expensive conversation Sep 25 06:27:48 :) Sep 25 06:29:25 or s/monochrome mms/svg/ Sep 25 06:30:29 and, multiplayer paint would be cool Sep 25 06:32:16 Hey, I've just got a freerunner to test, I've flashed it with the newest 2008.9 image+kernel. At the first boot it stopped at 59%, and now when I try to boot it it just hangs after Starting kernel Sep 25 06:32:31 any idea/help ? I've searched the wiki but found nothing so far Sep 25 06:33:22 luisfelipe: did the DFU util report no errors when you flashed? Sep 25 06:33:36 no Sep 25 06:45:49 freesmartphone.org: 03daniel 07framework * r0d6acb396d4b 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/gsm/convert.py: Sep 25 06:45:49 freesmartphone.org: ogsmd: Fix encoding SMS with characters in the GSM extension table Sep 25 06:45:49 freesmartphone.org: We tried to catch KeyError instead of ValueError so we missed the exceptions Sep 25 06:58:19 Well, my phone woke up this night again (did a suspend test over the night to test that). At morning, battery was empty, it didnt even boot. Sep 25 06:58:37 would be nice to hear if there is some ticket for that already, otherwise i will open one. Sep 25 06:59:02 (yes, i did the search but i found very much suspend issues all describing the "screen stays blank" problem) Sep 25 07:00:18 I love having GPRS Sep 25 07:00:42 too bad it's only 56k (on a good day) so downloading SHR will suck until I get home Sep 25 07:13:21 does suspend just not work on the stable-2.6.26 kernel? Sep 25 07:16:30 hrm .. finally got it to suspend Sep 25 07:16:32 but I guess it doesn't wake up Sep 25 07:27:07 freesmartphone.org: 03daniel 07framework * rfe2baa545cc0 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/gsm/sms.py: Sep 25 07:27:07 freesmartphone.org: ogsmd: Fix UD length for SMS including GSM extension alphabet characters. Sep 25 07:27:07 freesmartphone.org: Characters like "\", "[", ... are encoded as two septets so we need to use Sep 25 07:27:07 freesmartphone.org: the length of the encoded user data. Sep 25 07:27:18 I added dev-util and neotool to my centos 4.6 system at /root/Desktop and schanged the mode in 100754 (executable by owner and by group readable by everybody). I'm logged in as root. When I run ./neotool from the terminal I got the message -- text is not supported for this dialog. What am I missing, what should I do to get this working? Sep 25 07:28:51 I checked the software prequisites and the software is on the system. Sep 25 07:28:52 freesmartphone.org: 03daniel 07framework * r68f40402c9d3 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/gsm/sms.py: ogsmd: Fallback to UCS2 if encoding a message in the GSM alphabet fails Sep 25 07:30:25 <|FiLiP|> any qtopia users around ? Sep 25 07:30:36 yes Sep 25 07:30:55 <|FiLiP|> should have known ;-) Sep 25 07:31:01 :) Sep 25 07:31:01 good morning Sep 25 07:31:28 <|FiLiP|> I just cross-compiled roadmap for the FR, and it seems to be working (well, that is, it starts correctly) Sep 25 07:31:45 <|FiLiP|> both qtroadmap and qtroadgps Sep 25 07:32:51 <|FiLiP|> only prob is I do not seem to have a GPS fix , and i'm not sure if it is because there is effectivley no GPS fix, or if gpsd comm is not working. Sep 25 07:37:42 Noboddy has a pointer on how to get neotool at work. I don't seem to be lucky with the tools for falshing the freerunner. Sep 25 07:38:05 falshing=flashing Sep 25 07:38:14 <|FiLiP|> if anyone has some spare minutes to give roadmap GPS app a try on qtopia and report results, please check http://www.linux4.be/fr/roadmap.html Sep 25 07:38:27 |FiLiP|: not sure, I dont use gpsd Sep 25 07:38:48 it might take a while to get a fix, especially indoors Sep 25 07:40:03 <|FiLiP|> lpotter: I know, never used gpsd on the qtopia before neither. But I supose it should be working ? Sep 25 07:40:14 yes, it should Sep 25 07:40:39 <|FiLiP|> ok, I'll try it later tonight outside (going to take a walk during lunchbreak) Sep 25 07:50:37 My refalshing to 2008.9 just started. Hope thinks will work oout ;-) Sep 25 07:50:44 reflashing Sep 25 07:58:40 <[df]> does qtopia do suspend? Sep 25 08:00:10 Very well Sep 25 08:00:24 <[df]> how do you put it into suspend? Sep 25 08:10:04 My freerunner is booting again ! funny the boots on the screen. It seems to work well although it really takes time. Sep 25 08:10:45 <[df]> yep, but you don't really need to reboot it that often in normal use Sep 25 08:11:33 oops, the screen went black. I suppose that is not a good sign. Just after generating the dropbear rsa keays Sep 25 08:15:52 There seem to be no way to start the device again. Any advice? (it seems that I run into serious trouble) Sep 25 08:17:08 hit the power button to wake it up maybe Sep 25 08:17:54 <[df]> or if that fails, hold the power button down to either shut it down or start it, depending on what state it's in Sep 25 08:18:07 <[df]> and if that fails, take the battery out I guess? Sep 25 08:18:22 <[df]> don't worry, it's very unlikely to be in an unrecoverable state Sep 25 08:18:32 false alarm, the device run out of power. I have it on the power supply and now it i booting again. Not really brliant of me ;-) Sep 25 08:19:59 man 2008.9 is eh suck Sep 25 08:20:03 t Sep 25 08:21:01 I have it running youppie!! Sep 25 08:26:45 2008.9/ASU has issues with suspend/screen dimming... FDOM seems ok Sep 25 08:27:12 <[df]> I didn't notice any issues - don't have it installed at the moment though Sep 25 08:27:15 where do I find Zecke's unofficial updates? Sep 25 08:29:51 hey gues Sep 25 08:29:56 and girls Sep 25 08:30:15 just got my FR - can't connect to it Sep 25 08:30:22 via ssh Sep 25 08:30:33 You've got an ethernet device appearing? Sep 25 08:30:40 usb0: on your host? Sep 25 08:30:42 SpeedEvil: no Sep 25 08:30:44 <[df]> what OS are you trying to connect from? Sep 25 08:30:49 i dont see it - thats the thing Sep 25 08:30:59 fedora Sep 25 08:31:00 tomer: does it show on lsusb (if linux) Sep 25 08:31:24 SpeedEvil: checking Sep 25 08:31:48 what name should i look for? i see a bunch Sep 25 08:32:01 Uni class technology maybe...? Sep 25 08:32:08 1407:Bus 1 Device 4: ID 1457:5122 Sep 25 08:32:18 Bus 1 Device 4: ID 1457:5122 Sep 25 08:32:20 ratehr Sep 25 08:32:23 swc:666: is your advice to use 2008.8 Sep 25 08:32:55 SpeedEvil: i see a few, but i guess that your configuration is not like mine Sep 25 08:33:07 freesmartphone.org: 03charlie 07framework * r4d30cf55e3c8 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [ousaged] Added support for resources suspend and resume The code is a little bit tricky, it may be improved by using the tasklet class Sep 25 08:33:27 SpeedEvil: how should i know? Sep 25 08:33:31 <[df]> tomer: does anything appear in dmesg when you plug it in? Sep 25 08:33:35 tomer: the last two Sep 25 08:33:39 tomer: the ID Sep 25 08:33:44 1457:5122 Sep 25 08:33:49 should always be the same Sep 25 08:34:09 SpeedEvil: no, dont have those Sep 25 08:34:13 df: yes Sep 25 08:34:21 Also, oyu need the cdc_ether module loaded or loadable automatically via whatever mechanism to run the ethernet Sep 25 08:34:38 df: hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 2 Sep 25 08:34:46 <[df]> hmm Sep 25 08:34:53 df: usb 2-2: device not accepting address 80, error -71 Sep 25 08:35:11 SpeedEvil: i didnt do that Sep 25 08:35:15 try using a diffrent usb port Sep 25 08:35:35 * tomer switching usb port Sep 25 08:36:24 same shit, different usb port :P Sep 25 08:36:42 <[df]> what is your kernel version? Sep 25 08:36:48 same messages at dmesg Sep 25 08:37:07 df: remind me... how to check? Sep 25 08:37:24 <[df]> uname -a Sep 25 08:37:36 2.6.25.14-69.fc8 Sep 25 08:37:39 <[df]> well, uname -r will do it Sep 25 08:38:03 <[df]> definitely should be recent enough Sep 25 08:38:13 i cant do anything with the build in console Sep 25 08:38:14 <[df]> a quick google suggests it might be a fedora bug? Sep 25 08:38:21 i dont even have the '/' char... Sep 25 08:38:32 <[df]> yeah, sucks Sep 25 08:38:53 <[df]> btw, you will probably want to flash it with a more recent distro quite soon as 2007.02 is kind of a dead end Sep 25 08:39:02 df: god damn it! maybe i'll just wait to get home to my debian box... Sep 25 08:39:39 df: i know that, i just wanted to get the nice home screen - right now i only have an empty screen with a few apps Sep 25 08:40:08 i tried to connect with windows too, got the driver installed and all Sep 25 08:40:10 <[df]> have you got any usb stuff working on that box? Sep 25 08:40:27 but i cant reach the phone Sep 25 08:40:31 <|FiLiP|> tomer: you are not using a virtualized environment (vmware, virtualbox, ...) ? Sep 25 08:40:37 yeah - USB keyboard Sep 25 08:40:52 <[df]> ah - I'd suggest unplugging that, but then the machine wouldn't be much use ;) Sep 25 08:40:53 |FiLiP|: no Sep 25 08:40:59 heh Sep 25 08:41:35 <[df]> I think the 2nd error is probably the problem Sep 25 08:41:50 df: any suggestions? Sep 25 08:42:02 <[df]> http://www.linux-usb.org/FAQ.html#ts6 Sep 25 08:42:51 it is an old box - it ha USB 1.1 ports, i believe... Sep 25 08:44:08 i see it!! Sep 25 08:44:29 df: thanks man! your pointer helped - i used a USB port Sep 25 08:44:35 USB hub* Sep 25 08:44:50 <[df]> cool :) Sep 25 08:44:53 Bus 001 Device 115: ID 1457:5122 First International Computer, Inc. OpenMoko Neo1973 kernel cdc_ether USB network Sep 25 08:45:21 now what...? :D Sep 25 08:45:46 i did /sbin/ifconfig usb0 up Sep 25 08:45:48 worked Sep 25 08:45:54 i should write a manual man! Sep 25 08:45:58 ;) Sep 25 08:46:03 openmoko: 03olv 07org.openmoko.dev * reb9a5529b26c 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: [om-locations] Bump up to 30a7e1001ed6426dbb3bd297326dfb655fdf9681. Sep 25 08:46:03 openmoko: 03olv 07org.openmoko.dev * r3d0a82370506 10/packages/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [maps] Add map of Hong Kong. Sep 25 08:48:45 anybody with u-boot expertize ? Sep 25 08:49:18 df: i can now connect via ssh, but although the man says that the default root passwd is blank - i cannot access the device Sep 25 08:51:04 <[df]> hmm Sep 25 08:51:10 <[df]> you're doing ssh root@192.168.0.202? Sep 25 08:51:50 yes Sep 25 08:51:59 no Sep 25 08:52:25 damn it, i sshed to myself Sep 25 08:52:27 :D Sep 25 08:52:47 99.87% of new owners do that at some point. Sep 25 08:53:23 is dropbear ssh server able to listen on one interface only? though FR successfully connects to wireless network, i am able to ssh only through IP of usb adapter.. Sep 25 08:54:58 openmoko: 03jeremy 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r2bde20cd34a8 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: [om-locations] bump up to a0de11f295c6d2fd1e567205f853c9b994b2a306 Sep 25 08:54:59 openmoko: 03tick 07org.openmoko.dev * rd78e4fcbdaf3 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: [assassin] Bump up to version 251 Sep 25 08:56:43 has anybody of you tried gsm passthrough via u-boot ? Sep 25 08:56:44 Is there some magic combination to start a terminal with om2008.9 . I can't find the option. Sep 25 08:57:38 <[df]> there's no terminal installed by default iirc Sep 25 08:58:18 freesmartphone.org: 03daniel 07framework * r3e2d703b7077 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/gsm/sms.py: ogsmd: Add a PDU to test characters on the extended GSM alphabet table Sep 25 08:58:53 lesouvage, do you have xterm installed? Sep 25 08:59:47 Raigedas: no, I just flashed the device with om2008.9 Sep 25 09:01:53 lesouvage, i do not know differences between 2008.9 and 2008.8 but i assume they are very similar. so you need to setup usb networking, ssh to your FR and install xterm. Sep 25 09:02:02 at least i did that Sep 25 09:02:42 then icon appears on the "desktop" of FR Sep 25 09:05:19 ahoi Sep 25 09:05:35 I can't do that over wlan. There seem to be a connection with the accespoint? Sep 25 09:07:05 FDOM seems to have the same volume for handset and speakerphone.. Sep 25 09:07:08 both loud! Sep 25 09:07:59 are your webbrowser really slow in OM2008? Sep 25 09:10:52 webbrowser? Sep 25 09:12:09 which image should i flash? :D Sep 25 09:12:24 <[df]> depends... Sep 25 09:12:49 <[df]> how important is it to you to have a working phone? Sep 25 09:13:11 its important :) Sep 25 09:13:21 no qtopia ;) Sep 25 09:13:40 hehe, your should select Sep 25 09:13:50 :) Sep 25 09:13:59 hi guys, does OM 2008.8 have an emu now ? Sep 25 09:13:59 <[df]> qtopia seems to be the most stable - if you don't want that I guess perhaps FDOM? Sep 25 09:15:43 [df]: i should look on that ;) Thanks Sep 25 09:19:02 MrShleee: web browser Sep 25 09:25:57 There is Qtopia 4.3.2 flash image and a 4.3.3.snapshot. Hould I firt flash 4.3.2 and then the snpashot or can I do te snapshot at once. Sep 25 09:26:11 <[df]> the snapshot Sep 25 09:26:20 thanks. Sep 25 09:31:54 lesouvage, you should flash 4.3.3-snaphot Sep 25 09:34:41 max_posedon: flashing is in progress Sep 25 09:37:48 just a question, but why isn't there a terminal app included with om2008.9 that would save a lot of initial problems for newbies like me. Sep 25 09:40:13 lesouvage: i agree Sep 25 09:40:44 <[df]> me too (TM) Sep 25 09:40:53 <[df]> there isn't really a terminal-friendly keyboard either Sep 25 09:41:04 lesouvage, becouse newbies should use qtopia Sep 25 09:41:34 Years ago I had to go to the same trouble wth the Zaurus device. Nice linux device but no terminal. It took me lots of time before I found out how to set up network conection and run ssh. I feel in the same position now. Sep 25 09:42:42 max_posedon: I'm flashing that right now so I seem to do the right thing (after wasting lots of time) Sep 25 09:42:56 max_posedon: even qtopia has a terminal Sep 25 09:43:17 jaj, they hide terminal far away from user) Sep 25 09:43:42 yes and that's unfortunate but there are speed dials to work around this Sep 25 09:44:09 Sorry that sounds to negative. I knew the status of the project but it is just a little bit frustrating to spend lots of time for the very very first steps. Running Asterisk on my neo freerunner seem to far, far away. Sep 25 09:44:41 I haven't tried 2008.9 yet but I know that when I flashed 2008.8 it was cumbersome to get a terminal onto it and without a terminal it was not usable Sep 25 09:45:12 jaj: a terminal is just two packages away at 2008.9 Sep 25 09:45:19 2007.2 has one. Sep 25 09:45:25 (one for terminal itself and one for the better rasters keyboard) Sep 25 09:46:23 beni_ but first you have to set up network connection over usb. Sep 25 09:46:23 beni_: on 2008.8 I had to guess to how the usb0 network device was configure and adapt the one on my desktop to get a connection Sep 25 09:46:48 my flashing is done! Sep 25 09:46:55 lesouvage: yes exactly and that's painful without a terminal on the Neo Sep 25 09:48:00 On the zaurus I had years ago there was a kind of obscure key combination to start on runlevel 3 but the freerunner doesn't have that. Sep 25 09:48:11 <|FiLiP|> lpotter: still around ? have a question with regards to fastcharge on qtopia Sep 25 09:48:29 lesouvage, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_vs_Neo_FreeRunner Sep 25 09:48:33 <|FiLiP|> root@om-gta02:/opt/Nokia/Qtopia/bin# ./fast_charge Sep 25 09:48:33 <|FiLiP|> ./fast_charge: line 2: cannot create /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0008/chgmode: nonexistent directory Sep 25 09:48:46 lesouvage, look at target audience) Sep 25 09:48:51 <|FiLiP|> I do however have a /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/chgmode Sep 25 09:52:54 max_posedon: you are totaly right. I was just expecting that the challenges came after taken the initial steps but the initial steps like configuring the basic settings is challenge on its own. I'm not a total newby, actually making a living with Asterisk (see www.asterisk.org) related services. Sep 25 09:53:16 max_posedon: yes exactly, developer. and the developer needs a terminal, not a sudoku game Sep 25 09:53:35 lesouvage: that worked out of the box here (or did you mean at host side?) Sep 25 09:53:42 jaj, ssh!) Sep 25 09:54:05 terminal is totally use less, (hard to use, and slow to type) Sep 25 09:54:16 |FiLiP|: yes thats the correct one Sep 25 09:54:31 (if we speak about developers of course) Sep 25 09:54:49 |FiLiP|: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Forcing_fast_charge_mode#Using_a_script , try one of the scripts Sep 25 09:56:10 where can i get the OpenMoko in china :'( Sep 25 09:56:16 in Shanghai Sep 25 09:56:29 <|FiLiP|> beni_: ok, thx. But it means the default script in the qtopia snapshot is no working for gta02. Sep 25 10:13:42 openmoko: 03julian_chu 07org.openmoko.dev * r8d72ae1a1033 10/packages/gpsd/ (files/gpsd gpsd_2.34.bb): [gpsd] Modify gpsd daemon script to use start-stop-daemon Sep 25 10:16:04 i can't enter my 4 digit pincode on qtopia. is this a known problem? Sep 25 10:16:55 after adding my sim card to the phone. Sep 25 10:21:21 are there issues with certain telco's? Sep 25 10:21:46 openmoko: 03julian_chu 07org.openmoko.dev * rb197558413de 10/packages/gpsd/ (files/gpsd-default gpsd_2.34.bb): [gpsd] change gpsd device file from /dev/ttyS3 to /dev/ttySAC1 Sep 25 10:23:44 lesouvage: whats the problem? does it say pin incorrect? Sep 25 10:24:30 sakkara: no it stops accepting digits after the third one Sep 25 10:25:05 I'm ow doing a reboot. I hope it helps. Sep 25 10:25:53 |FiLiP|: its not working in 2008.x either. Sep 25 10:26:11 After the third digit there is a message Emergency number 000 Press call to dial. Sep 25 10:28:36 weird... Sep 25 10:29:49 where do you live? what is your telco? Sep 25 10:30:10 Yes: I don't expect a lot but being able to make a phonecall would be nice. I'm from Holland and Vodaphone is my telco Sep 25 10:31:22 and you have the right phone? not one for us gsm? Sep 25 10:31:35 I'm started to feel kind of Marvin mooded after this morning with trying without success. Sep 25 10:32:06 It works with om2007.2 I could call and be called. Sep 25 10:32:25 really strange o.O Sep 25 10:33:00 i tried every os and even with qtopia it worked fine... Sep 25 10:36:58 ehy all, how to read IMEI from a FreeRunner ? Sep 25 10:41:47 Should be printed under the battery. Sep 25 10:42:43 wee I got the gps to work :) so cool Sep 25 10:44:32 is the wiki down? Sep 25 10:47:16 Sup3rkiddo: no, it isn't Sep 25 10:47:42 works fine for me Sep 25 10:48:11 sakkara, thanks, works for me now Sep 25 10:48:29 np :o) Sep 25 10:51:41 yeah I know, I need to do that from uboot Sep 25 10:52:16 gsm passthrough doesn't work anymore on FreeRunners Sep 25 10:52:23 Unclejack: mount factory partition ;p Sep 25 10:52:41 its ext2 Sep 25 10:53:18 could you be a bit more clear ? Sep 25 10:55:14 Unclejack: in moko flash you got 6 partitions: u-boot, u-boot_env, kernel, splash, factory, rootfs Sep 25 10:55:19 neat Sep 25 10:55:49 on factory you got ext2fs with IMEI, bt/wifi mac numbers etc Sep 25 10:56:22 cool, so I can use the loadetx2 command from uboot for reading that ? Sep 25 10:56:31 nope Sep 25 10:56:37 either mount it in os Sep 25 10:56:42 or upload it to pc Sep 25 10:57:13 f**k, I need a way to do it into the bootloader Sep 25 10:57:14 dfu-util -a factory -R -U factory.ext2 <= this will save it on your pc Sep 25 10:57:38 you can download it from bootloader with that Sep 25 10:59:10 Unclejack: got it? Sep 25 10:59:14 but I need something that works without a PC Sep 25 11:00:30