**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 22 02:59:57 2009 Jan 22 04:47:56 bouncing moko Jan 22 04:48:15 * Dave throws a rubber moko at slaxxin Jan 22 04:49:38 yikes Jan 22 04:49:57 watsup Dave Jan 22 04:50:13 :p Jan 22 04:50:16 not my mokos Jan 22 04:50:19 that's for sure Jan 22 04:50:23 ooo noos Jan 22 04:50:23 pieces of crap :D Jan 22 04:50:35 I may try out android on some of them later Jan 22 04:50:42 but for now, after debugging shr, it's all blah Jan 22 04:50:47 I've had enough for a little while Jan 22 04:50:47 shr is tough right now Jan 22 04:50:52 though I'm still developing on the side Jan 22 04:50:55 my own apps and such Jan 22 04:51:23 did u try 2008.12 at all? Jan 22 04:51:27 N Jan 22 04:51:28 No Jan 22 04:51:32 It scares me :p Jan 22 04:51:39 Man, 2008.X was horrible enough Jan 22 04:51:43 I'm just like, fuck that shit. Jan 22 04:51:49 But I probably should Jan 22 04:51:53 well if u tired an just need a break Jan 22 04:51:55 watch, it'll WSoD on first boot Jan 22 04:51:56 try it Jan 22 04:51:57 :p Jan 22 04:51:59 wouldn't that be grand Jan 22 04:52:29 this is a complete change i promise u Jan 22 04:52:38 uh huh ¬_¬ Jan 22 04:52:41 an u know i dont work for om Jan 22 04:52:44 Mind you, that's what they ALWAYS say Jan 22 04:52:47 haha Jan 22 04:52:51 remember the lightbulb joke? ;) Jan 22 04:52:55 lol Jan 22 04:52:56 speaking of which, I should add to that page Jan 22 04:53:00 and/or link my OM bash quotes Jan 22 04:53:02 that someone posted Jan 22 04:53:04 :P Jan 22 04:54:07 i tried the .28 kernel on 2008.12 an the phone dialed a connected but there was no sound Jan 22 04:54:41 otherwise i have not been able to break it:) Jan 22 04:55:08 .24 kernel works all the way around Jan 22 04:56:51 Dave: share that joke! Jan 22 04:59:14 how many om programmers does it take..... Jan 22 04:59:58 ...? Jan 22 05:00:22 all of them Jan 22 05:00:35 I'm no programmer, so go ahead! ;) Jan 22 05:00:52 * rooly is a programmer, but not an om programmer Jan 22 05:01:41 DAVE!!! Jan 22 05:02:53 slaxxin: !? you're cruel :-/ Jan 22 05:05:42 how long shall I wait wondering about the point of this joke? not nice Jan 22 05:06:24 gnaahhh Jan 22 05:08:41 * mwester-laptop thinks the joke is that Dave doesn't really have any freerunners at all! Jan 22 05:26:53 so crual Jan 22 05:27:08 lol Jan 22 05:27:25 messin 'round Doc Jan 22 05:28:41 my om2008.12 is sweet Jan 22 07:15:12 Defiant-: compiling of kernel has finished successfully (took 6 h 20 min)! nearly 40 MB swap were used, so 512 MB is big enough. Jan 22 07:33:55 bernt: what machine is that ? Jan 22 08:09:40 CVirus: freerunner Jan 22 08:39:55 hello Jan 22 08:40:57 I was just wondering, what licence is the Openmoko OS licenced under? can't seem to find it on the openmoko wiki Jan 22 08:41:37 (the main distro, like Om 2008.12 and so on) Jan 22 08:43:30 Sjano: it consists of many programs with different licenses Jan 22 08:45:47 does that apply to like hardware drivers and so on too, or just some of the programs that comes with the distro? Jan 22 08:48:29 Lets say that i'd like to edit it to work on my cheap chinese phone? and remove some parts and so on. are there some things i'm not allowed to edit and so on to distribute it? Jan 22 08:59:31 Sjano: i think the goal is that you can do that, i don't know how careful they are with copyrights Jan 22 09:02:22 Sjano: (disclamer: i am not using om's distro but debian) Jan 22 09:02:50 good morning Jan 22 09:06:26 good morning Jan 22 09:50:47 how do kernel upgrades from opkg work? Jan 22 09:50:55 does it flash the kernel itself? Jan 22 09:51:46 afair yes Jan 22 09:51:52 nice Jan 22 09:51:58 ok, thanks Jan 22 10:13:36 *grrrrrr* i have opened opkg.org in dillo on the FR, and when i "click" on a link, it just displays the link's href in the status bar Jan 22 10:16:31 and midori is just unusable Jan 22 10:17:30 is it? midori works find here. ok...havn't used it that much Jan 22 10:17:34 because of the toolbar icons being way too big Jan 22 10:17:37 and not configurable Jan 22 10:59:16 freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07fso-monitord * r142bb4fbc524 10/src/ (logger.vala main.vala monitor.vala obj.vala): Jan 22 10:59:16 freesmartphone.org: Logger uses Glib log functions Jan 22 10:59:16 freesmartphone.org: moved logger and monitor to seperate files. Jan 22 10:59:16 freesmartphone.org: added signal handler for usage, GSM, PDP, network Jan 22 11:09:11 i have a problem. i can't create an access to my computer Jan 22 11:11:49 i have a problem. i can't create an access to my computer Jan 22 11:11:56 I'm trying to install SHR, following http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Stable_Hybrid_Release Jan 22 11:12:26 I can't find the rootfs for FreeRunner here: http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/ Jan 22 11:12:27 i have a problem. i can't connect from openmoko to my computer Jan 22 11:13:18 tuxfreak: Error message? Jan 22 11:13:24 * kstar just got that working Jan 22 11:14:26 no error message they don't find each other Jan 22 11:44:21 does anyone know how to view Qtopia's .pic files? Jan 22 12:27:09 Hello, what has happened to http://projects.openmoko.org/ ? Jan 22 12:28:53 why? it's there, a few projects use it Jan 22 12:30:20 dns: it is now offline for days... Jan 22 12:30:54 not for me Jan 22 12:31:31 mhh... Jan 22 12:32:26 works for me as well Jan 22 12:32:26 weird Jan 22 12:33:16 restarting the local caching DNS server, then it works (the local caching DNS server reported "SERVFAIL") Jan 22 12:34:38 maybe that servfail was cached for too long... Jan 22 12:34:43 thank you anyway :-) Jan 22 13:38:05 hi Jan 22 13:39:46 I'm using tangogps and gpssight on freerunner with shr. With tangogps I get a fix in a minute, but gps sight fixes never, it only desplayes sometimes "gps time" Jan 22 13:40:08 any ideas why gps sight is not working? Jan 22 13:44:51 Hi everybody, I'm thinking of being a FreeRunner, but would like to see it in real life first. Is anyone here from Belgium, Leuven/Brussels area? Jan 22 13:45:10 buying :) Jan 22 13:46:16 Wonder what it's be like, being a FR. Jan 22 13:47:15 Can't sleep, you're cranky, you keep getting probed ... Jan 22 13:48:40 hehe Jan 22 13:56:52 TangoGPS isn't fixing for me. Any suggestions? Jan 22 13:57:40 Is there some way I can monitor the GPS status? Jan 22 13:57:47 messages, particularly? Jan 22 13:58:15 kstar: gpspipe -r will print the NMEA codes Jan 22 13:58:26 which distro? Jan 22 13:58:43 kstar: you use your device outside a building, right? Jan 22 13:58:50 zhone diagnostic tool has a quite amazing gps monitor Jan 22 14:01:14 Defiant-: Ah, ok... I need to do that. Will go out and try Jan 22 14:01:23 * kstar is a GPSn00b - first time Jan 22 14:01:34 Defiant-: But Jan 22 14:01:51 Defiant-: I got a gpspipe command not found and opkg install gpspipe didn't work Jan 22 14:02:41 kstar: try gps-utils Jan 22 14:03:10 Defiant-: Ah, thanks. Jan 22 14:04:57 Defiant-: try zhone diag tool Jan 22 14:05:30 I don't have zhone installed Jan 22 14:05:49 * Dave waves to Joerg Jan 22 14:06:11 * DocScrutinizer2 hugs Dave Jan 22 14:09:40 Aw :) Jan 22 14:09:59 Joerg, I'll tell you a funny story about transformers that happened in lab yesterday :P Jan 22 14:10:14 let's just say some noob forgot about mutual inductance :D Jan 22 14:10:43 yup, go ahead. I adore funny stories Jan 22 14:10:44 freesmartphone.org: 03peter 07zhone * r2f497ca84417 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): rename error page to alert Jan 22 14:10:44 freesmartphone.org: 03peter 07zhone * r15a1c106b95e 10/src/zhone: show error/warning when SIM is full Jan 22 14:10:45 freesmartphone.org: 03peter 07zhone * r80d85c2faff7 10/src/zhone: send and receive USSD messages Jan 22 14:10:46 freesmartphone.org: 03peter 07zhone * r6afaf3c15aa0 10/src/zhone: send DTMF tones immediately Jan 22 14:12:01 Maybe later, I have to head out to a meeting now :) Jan 22 14:13:37 Dave: ok Jan 22 14:18:02 Is this some problem with my config or with the repos? I do an opkg update and I get a "Failed to download http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-testing/ipk/all/Packages.sig, error 404" and a Signature check failed Jan 22 14:18:30 Oh, and BTW, the stroll out of my building didn't get the GPS to catch the signal. Could it be because my phone time is not set correctly? Jan 22 14:35:05 kstar: if you are using AGPS and have internet connection to dl ephem + alm, you actually should have correct system time (and timezone) Jan 22 14:36:13 Okay Jan 22 16:06:12 anybody know how to interface with the NEO Freerunner over USB console? Jan 22 16:07:17 SM2k: picocom /dev/ttyACM0 Jan 22 16:08:29 lindi-, thanks. Jan 22 16:09:16 I do an opkg update and I get a "Failed to download http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-testing/ipk/all/Packages.sig, error 404". Any solutions? Jan 22 16:09:47 That's normal. Jan 22 16:10:18 kstar: and you should flash unstable b y the way, testing hasn't been update for a while, we'll soon pour unstable into it Jan 22 16:10:38 lindi-, I'm following this sequence: boot phone into nor mode. plug in USB cable. (on desktop) execute picocom /dev/ttyACM0, (on freerunner) "Set console to USB". phone returns to uboot menu after a moment and nothing happens on the picocom side. Jan 22 16:11:44 Ainulindale: Can I upgrade from testing to unstable like we do in Debian? Jan 22 16:12:17 SM2k: it returns to menu always anyway, it is not related to the console Jan 22 16:12:20 Ainulindale: But assuming I remain on testing, is the signature check not a fatal error? Jan 22 16:12:43 lindi-, gotcha. ok, now that I've got the console up, will the freerunner time out and shut off still? Jan 22 16:13:17 kstar: not at all Jan 22 16:13:31 kstar: and no, for testing => unstable, there are too many changes Jan 22 16:13:45 Ainulindale: Oh, okay. Jan 22 16:18:14 SM2k: i think uboot source code has that timeout Jan 22 16:18:22 SM2k: so you need to modify it to override it Jan 22 16:18:24 it does indeed time out. Jan 22 16:18:36 SM2k: please git clone git://git.openmoko.org/git/u-boot.git and grep for "seconds" Jan 22 16:18:47 lindi-: what timeout? Jan 22 16:18:57 the timeout was compile-time Jan 22 16:19:42 lindi-, no worries. just trying to get myself set up with a good devel environment for the freerunner. I have no specific need for messing with the timeout per se. Jan 22 16:21:16 lindi-, I started out trying to compile apps for qemu emulation yesteray, but that seemed to be quite an investment. my ultimate goal is to get apps onto the phone anyways. Jan 22 16:22:43 I assume compiling apps for the phone still involves a stack of deps compiled for ARM, correct? Jan 22 16:23:21 SM2k: there are many ways Jan 22 16:23:44 SM2k: qemubuilder + distcc'd cross-compilers are the easiest way with debian at least Jan 22 16:24:00 * SM2k doesn't have access to distcc atm Jan 22 16:24:01 SM2k: with om2008.12 you are supposed to use bitbake Jan 22 16:24:22 (or mokomakefile which is supposed to make bitbake easy to use) Jan 22 16:24:30 lindi-, I was using mokomakefile Jan 22 16:29:56 lindi-, I was following the steps on: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Customizing_the_Openmoko_Distribution ... is there any difference wether I'm ultimately targeting qemu or a physical device? Jan 22 16:33:22 SM2k: not afaik Jan 22 16:34:39 anybody test out 2008.12? Jan 22 16:35:25 I've noticed that the images found on downloads.openmoko.org don't seem to work so well in QEMU, yet the images found on http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/ do seem to work, hence my question. Jan 22 16:37:02 hello guys Jan 22 16:37:18 anyone feel that the voice sound is toooooo low ? Jan 22 16:37:25 how can i raise it up ? Jan 22 16:46:36 gfather: amixer sset PCM 255 Jan 22 16:46:43 gfather: just like on your PC Jan 22 16:51:36 is there a phone that runs openmoko and supports multitouch? (and all in all supports "cool toys" like the iphone for exmaple does) Jan 22 16:51:53 ailaG: why would you want to run openmoko distro? ;) Jan 22 16:52:39 i want a new phone that doesnt just have a few neat features under some limitations, i want to be able to fix the limitations myself Jan 22 16:53:16 ailaG: no, there is none. i don't even think there is a device that has drivers for linux and does multitouch... Jan 22 16:53:34 lindi- just like my pc ? Jan 22 16:53:37 :") Jan 22 16:53:40 gfather: yeah Jan 22 16:53:40 it feels like when you buy a phone you either get a bad messy bunch of things (eg nokia) or a limited amount of cool features that you may or may not like (iphone) Jan 22 16:53:54 i want to have an "iphone" that i can control :) Jan 22 16:54:18 ailaG: you better pay more for developers then Jan 22 16:54:25 so with this in mind, and without multitouch, is openmoko / freerunner for me? Jan 22 16:54:33 i can program Jan 22 16:54:39 ailaG: depends Jan 22 16:54:55 and with opensource there's a good chance someone has already programmed features that i want Jan 22 16:54:59 ailaG: i don't like the openmoko distro, i use debian. however, i use the same kernel and X as others Jan 22 16:55:22 debian on the phone? Jan 22 16:55:35 i might be mixing the term openmoko with the hardware, not used to it yet :) Jan 22 16:55:48 aliaG u seem not visting the wiki site like forever Jan 22 16:55:52 ailaG: yep, it's 400MHz processor with 128M ram Jan 22 16:55:57 ailaG: so why not Jan 22 16:56:14 ailaG: openmoko is the name of company, distro and hardware product line Jan 22 16:56:48 gfather i just googled a little, remembered the name openmoko from a lecture Jan 22 16:57:45 so what are the hardware alternatives? i.e. what do i buy? Jan 22 16:58:06 opensource phone software obviously wont run on my current nokia :) Jan 22 16:58:30 ailaG: i do not know about many others that'd have gsm chip Jan 22 16:58:45 ailaG but remember , its not yet for end users Jan 22 16:59:25 and most of iamges are still not 100% working , so if u want to get to have fun doing stuff on it get it , if u want to get it for every day use , its still not yet for that Jan 22 17:00:31 if they sell freerunner on websites without mentioning "developers only" then one assumes it's for end users too.. Jan 22 17:00:46 i'll wait i guess Jan 22 17:01:45 i program and all but i don't wanna spend all my time on helping the project .. thought there'd be somethign that lets me have a phone i can configure already :) Jan 22 17:01:49 thanks Jan 22 17:02:31 ailaG: i'm sometimes using it as my main phone Jan 22 17:03:17 i use it as my main phone :) Jan 22 17:03:31 i only make some calls and get some calls , Jan 22 17:03:42 i want one phone that works and that i can improve if it's not comfortable enough Jan 22 17:03:50 I also use it as a daily phone, but it's far from 100% working Jan 22 17:04:00 ailaG: so SHR will be good for you Jan 22 17:04:20 from small features like shortcuts (it takes 7-10 clicks to put my nokia on advanced silent!) to installations of thigns a bit more complicated than little java games Jan 22 17:04:25 ailaG: I suggest you wait... and maybe later buy the FR Jan 22 17:04:30 SHR? Jan 22 17:04:46 ailaG: one of the distros Jan 22 17:05:00 dent: what issues do you have? Jan 22 17:05:02 how long do you think i should wait? my current phone is sort of old and dying Jan 22 17:06:05 ailaG: depends on how much patience and skills you have Jan 22 17:06:11 well, I guess SHR might have progressed, I should reflash... but: when somebody calls me, I obvisously see the number only Jan 22 17:06:22 there's this buzz/echo Jan 22 17:06:38 smses only on SIM (=10 smses is the limit for me) Jan 22 17:06:55 more of them; I guess I could plish some easily, but unfortunately I'm all the time busy with other things :-/ Jan 22 17:07:23 also I prefer to stick with SHR rather than... trey something like qtopia/whatever that might work better in this regard Jan 22 17:07:39 dent: name on incoming call is on shr-unstable for some time Jan 22 17:07:48 dent: buzz/echo is one line fix to frameworkd Jan 22 17:08:09 dent: smses only on SIM (for me 20 smses) - opimd will be soon Jan 22 17:08:09 as for shr-unstable: I no longer dare, as FR is currently my only phone Jan 22 17:08:20 and an update can easily screw all :-/ Jan 22 17:08:23 dent: and shr-unstable is realy stable Jan 22 17:08:29 dent: i'm updating it every day Jan 22 17:08:57 well, slow down... I mostly understand the situation, and I anckowledge that if I invested moe time into FR, it would have worked better Jan 22 17:08:58 dent: and it works good ;) Jan 22 17:09:18 I'm jsut saying I don't think it's for some1 like ailaG (as he expressed what he expectf of it) Jan 22 17:09:46 dent: are you sending AT%N187 after every call? Jan 22 17:09:55 (ailaG = she) Jan 22 17:10:09 dos1: I might give shr-unstable another try, thanks for info Jan 22 17:10:11 dent: i'm using SHR as daily phone, and it works better than QtExtended and OM2008.x Jan 22 17:10:12 ailaG: sorry :) Jan 22 17:10:16 :) Jan 22 17:10:29 lindi-: never dived deep enough... I don't know :-/ Jan 22 17:10:35 anyway I'm not complaining here :) Jan 22 17:10:36 dent: only thing i miss is PIM Jan 22 17:10:37 * dent shuts up Jan 22 17:10:52 dent: but it will be soon Jan 22 17:11:25 btw... is there any console app for sending/reading smses? Jan 22 17:11:41 (using FSO) Jan 22 17:12:15 i guess that the next time i'm in the usa, if i'm in a place that sells it, i'll ask them. that way i can also see the device before i buy it. i bet it'll take a while until it's sold here. Jan 22 17:12:45 ailaG: outta pure curiosity... where's "here"? Jan 22 17:13:53 israel Jan 22 17:14:28 ailaG> then help me in bidi languages Jan 22 17:14:38 im working on to support bidi languages Jan 22 17:14:51 i read that it already supports it.. but ok :) Jan 22 17:15:00 let me know what i can do Jan 22 17:15:32 well u have to get one to help Jan 22 17:17:14 i thought i can install the software on a computer as well Jan 22 17:18:47 should be possible... I tried with 2008.x Jan 22 17:19:35 and i'd get one but $400 for something that doesn't always work is too much Jan 22 17:20:05 and we said i shoudl wait :) Jan 22 17:20:34 ailaG: it does work most of the time; currently the missing PIM is the worst issue for ordinary phone use Jan 22 17:20:51 there's at least one israeli developer with an opensource phone - the one who gave the lecture i mentioned on openmoko Jan 22 17:32:02 hmm asu makefile also forkbombs the system :/ Jan 22 17:32:24 is it shr? Jan 22 17:33:28 nope it's some configure script. I have to run it with only one thread to see which one is it Jan 22 17:40:20 aaargh. now i know what i'm missing on my laptop's screen... Jan 22 17:40:26 the illume-keyboard! Jan 22 17:40:30 D'Oh! Jan 22 17:40:50 try the latest 2008.12 Jan 22 17:41:00 on my _laptop_'s screen. Jan 22 17:41:04 not on my FR Jan 22 17:41:10 oo Jan 22 17:42:21 Dave!!!!! Jan 22 17:42:47 slaxxin: illume keyboard? only with illume or shr theme! :P Jan 22 17:48:18 ey how to configure uboot to use a >2mb kernel? Jan 22 17:48:35 2mb embedded device kernel? ;p Jan 22 17:48:38 big Jan 22 17:50:24 univac, I want to try out Android Jan 22 17:50:53 ey where are the austrian guys? :D Jan 22 17:52:22 there was a website for the openmoko-android project iirc? Jan 22 17:52:33 there is a moko supplier who is working on the port, no? Jan 22 17:54:38 lindi- i get unable to find simple controle 'pcm' , 0 Jan 22 17:56:46 what keyboard ir this? Jan 22 17:56:50 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Bytestore Jan 22 18:00:03 qemu-native_0.9.1.bb, do_configure - runs a lot of pkg-config glib-config processes Jan 22 18:00:49 http://dl.linuxphone.ru/openmoko/repository/gnome-mplayer/ Jan 22 18:01:26 gfather: PCM? Jan 22 18:01:31 If I install Qi, it's as easy as flashing, and then ready to go, right? Jan 22 18:01:38 lindi-> ? Jan 22 18:01:51

gfather: amixer sset PCM 255 Jan 22 18:02:37 gfather: but you used pcm? Jan 22 18:17:18 ah soeey :) Jan 22 18:18:32 lindi- thats external speakers or internal one ? Jan 22 18:26:32 gfather: it's the hifi codec, you can redirect it anywhere you like Jan 22 18:30:32 lindi- im confuced Jan 22 18:31:33 gfather: 92 alsa controls can be bit confusing yes Jan 22 18:32:04 i just wanna raise the volume of calls Jan 22 18:32:15 becouse i bearlly can hear anything Jan 22 18:32:18 gfather: calls, then it's not PCM Jan 22 18:32:51 gfather: adjust 'Speaker Playback Volume' Jan 22 18:32:52 whats should i use ? Jan 22 18:33:04 :s Jan 22 18:34:41 is that in settings or terminal ? Jan 22 18:34:58 gfather: alsamixer Jan 22 18:34:59 gfather: that is the name of the alsa control Jan 22 18:35:06 gfather: are you familiar with alsa? Jan 22 18:35:10 no Jan 22 18:35:28 gfather: why have you buyed freerunner? Jan 22 18:36:11 i only have it for 1 day m8 Jan 22 18:36:25 gfather: i suggest you learn alsa first Jan 22 18:36:30 dos1 so i dont think u know what do in 1 day Jan 22 18:37:14 gfather: it was kind of out of topic :P Jan 22 18:37:41 gfather: but i think some basics of linux you should know before you buyed FR Jan 22 18:37:45 i just want to raise the volume up , damn :) Jan 22 18:38:07 yah , never had to configure sound volume on linux before Jan 22 18:38:12 gfather: but it's only my opinion ;) Jan 22 18:38:18 its easy , u see the volume bar , u raise it up , lool Jan 22 18:38:30 gfather: well, why not use the same volume bar herE? Jan 22 18:38:52 gfather: you should read about alsactl (storing and restoring) and take look in /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/ Jan 22 18:40:20 lindi- i have fso image , no bar in it :) Jan 22 18:40:40 gfather: at least you should read wiki and mail lists ;] Jan 22 18:40:44 gfather: install it or switch the distro :) Jan 22 18:41:06 gfather: there is some GUI (i think it is called fso-mixer) for controlling audio volume Jan 22 18:44:48 ill chek them out Jan 22 18:49:49 I'm suposed to talk about Mokomakefile here or on #openmoko-cdevel ? Jan 22 18:50:30 Mononoke: some problems? if yes, i think cdevel will be more suitable Jan 22 18:54:48 does the openmoko run an ssh server by default? Jan 22 18:55:47 bye bye Jan 22 18:56:06 SM2k_: yes, dropbear Jan 22 18:57:49 dos1, running 2008.12... my freerunner probably decided it's IP was 192.168.0.202... any idea how to connect it to my local WLAN? Jan 22 18:58:45 SM2k_, NAT?(iptables?) Jan 22 18:58:54 SM2k_: firstly - 2008.x is a crap ;) secondly, 192.168.0.202 is for usb0 connection Jan 22 18:59:08 iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 Jan 22 18:59:08 sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 Jan 22 18:59:08 ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 Jan 22 18:59:28 iwlint eth0 scan first Jan 22 18:59:56 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking Jan 22 19:00:23 SM2k_: the usb connection usually doesn't work properly on the first boot. i don't know if the wiki mentions that?! Jan 22 19:00:58 reboot 1 time Jan 22 19:01:34 Hi! Is there anyone here that can help me to get a ssh access to my freerunner phone? I exactly followed the wiki guide but I cannot get a ssh connection and I have no idea why... :-( Jan 22 19:02:39 Henk, I've been reading thru the wiki but I must have missed that section. is there a link I can go RTFM? :-) Jan 22 19:04:37 Kurisutian, SM2k_: describe the problems. use a pastebin for the error messages. Jan 22 19:06:05 well, I did set up the usb0 interface and I could ping the phone getting a response. But as soon as I want to create the ssh connection it tells me that there is not route to host.... Jan 22 19:07:11 Kurisutian: is that the first boot after flashing? Jan 22 19:07:20 yes Jan 22 19:07:36 200023 < henk> SM2k_: the usb connection usually doesn't work properly on the first boot. i don't know if the wiki mentions that?! Jan 22 19:07:37 I'm personally trying to figure out what ubuntu package provides iwlint, which slaxxin mentioned Jan 22 19:07:56 SM2k_: it should be iwlist i think Jan 22 19:08:03 henk, I haven't even gotten the desktop to the point where it's willing to route over USB Jan 22 19:08:05 SM2k_: and on neo side Jan 22 19:09:13 does anybody know where the USB networking page is so I can read up on this instead of wasting your time? :-) Jan 22 19:09:25 SM2k_: your desktop is on ubuntu? what do you mean by 'route over usb'? are you trying to use your neo as a sort of router to a wireless network or routing the neo over your desktop? Jan 22 19:09:50 SM2k_: 195956 < max_posedon> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking Jan 22 19:10:47 henk, I assume that if the freerunner uses USB as it's routing, and I've plugged the USB into the USB port on my desktop, then I must set up the desktop to in some way route to the usb interface? Jan 22 19:11:18 I'm actually just trying to get an ssh connection to the freerunner Jan 22 19:11:27 and thank you for the link Jan 22 19:11:41 SM2k_: if you want the freerunner to be able to connect to the internet, yes. Jan 22 19:11:51 OK, I rebooted the device and did connect it again. Also did bring the usb0 interface up. Pinging with ping -I usb0 192.168.0.202 gives me a response but the ssh access still doesn't work.... Jan 22 19:11:52 ifconfig sets up routes automatically Jan 22 19:11:57 SM2k_: actually you have to thank max_posedon, i just copied what he said. Jan 22 19:12:05 :-) Jan 22 19:12:32 so you do "ifconfig usb0 192.168.100.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" or whatever, and you'll get a route to 192.168.100.* via usb0 Jan 22 19:12:53 cjb: that is one of the misfeatures of ifconfig indeed :) Jan 22 19:13:16 SM2k_ there is a script i use , u get instant connecion without modifying ur settings Jan 22 19:13:29 Kurisutian: what are the routes of your desktop computer? paste the output of 'ip route' and 'ip addr' or 'ifconfig' and 'route -n' Jan 22 19:14:35 henk: ok, following the instructions on that page works for me. :-) thanks Jan 22 19:14:58 gfather, as in your script restores the routing tables later? Jan 22 19:15:08 yes Jan 22 19:15:11 sudo wget -O /usr/bin/fr_usb http://om.quatrox.org/om/fr_usb.sh Jan 22 19:15:21 sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/fr_usb Jan 22 19:15:28 sudo fr_usb Jan 22 19:15:30 ;) Jan 22 19:16:04 s,/usr,&/local, please :-/ Jan 22 19:16:47 gfather, thanks Jan 22 19:17:06 henk: ifconfig output is here: http://pastebin.com/d3ac3971c and route -n outpu here: http://pastebin.com/d6c5351e8 Jan 22 19:17:49 gfather: you are violating the fhs 'evillook' ;) Jan 22 19:18:11 he-he Jan 22 19:18:18 Kurisutian: see that? Jan 22 19:18:33 Kurisutian, don't do Jan 22 19:18:41 see what? Jan 22 19:18:42 ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 Jan 22 19:18:48 SM2k_ anytime Jan 22 19:18:58 you should do ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.255 Jan 22 19:19:10 (or/and) add custom route Jan 22 19:19:10 Kurisutian: you have the same network on two hardware interfaces. Jan 22 19:19:24 route add 192.168.0.202 gw 192.168.0.200 Jan 22 19:19:40 and of course "192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 usb0" Jan 22 19:19:52 OK, I see.... hmmmm I totally missed that..... shame on me.... Jan 22 19:19:54 this route should be deleted in your configuration Jan 22 19:20:57 cjb: that's why one should use 'ip', i guess :) Jan 22 19:21:08 OK, thanks a lot, it's working now.... I kinda feel stupid now, too.... ;-) Jan 22 19:23:28 SM2k_ did it work ? Jan 22 19:24:09 gfather, I'm already up and running, so I'll try your script later. thanks tho. Jan 22 19:26:03 :S Jan 22 19:26:10 :) Jan 22 19:40:57 i wonder if we'll be able to get Palm's WebOS running on the gta02 Jan 22 20:00:31 hi Jan 22 20:04:22 man, palm really wrote an os in javascript?! Jan 22 20:10:21 soul9: I don't know, for what tasks can you use an os in Javascript? Jan 22 20:10:29 heh Jan 22 20:10:34 i wonder.. Jan 22 20:11:49 if you switch the wording javascript for Palm OS it would make sense. Jan 22 20:12:19 zem_: whaa? Jan 22 20:12:29 zem_: you mean the os is not in javascript? Jan 22 20:13:24 zem_: just a guess! Jan 22 20:21:51