**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jan 23 02:59:57 2009
Jan 23 03:04:26 <DocScrutinizer2> orzo: the schem looks nearly correct, though I can't tell about the pinout of the boardmount receptacles
Jan 23 03:20:41 <Dave> Hi Joerg :)
Jan 23 03:20:49 <Dave> Yes, I've always liked your Y-cable solution
Jan 23 03:20:49 <DocScrutinizer2> hi
Jan 23 03:20:56 <Dave> I made it too, during the summer
Jan 23 03:20:58 <Dave> :]
Jan 23 03:22:18 <catsup> http://childrenofmay.org/Frank%20Zappa%20-%20Central%20Scrutinizer.mp3
Jan 23 03:23:07 <DocScrutinizer2> catsup: how did you spot me being a zappa-fan? ;)
Jan 23 03:24:26 <Dave> :)
Jan 23 03:24:46 <orzo> Dave: did you use 15kohm resisters?
Jan 23 03:34:18 <DocScrutinizer2> orzo: you can try to get away without them. Depends on what you are connecting for peripheral
Jan 23 03:34:37 <Dave> Joerg, did you see the diagram on quatrox's site?
Jan 23 03:34:46 <DocScrutinizer2> yup
Jan 23 03:34:46 <orzo> i have 15khom resistors
Jan 23 03:35:29 <DocScrutinizer2> I don't see why ther's such a lot of femal usb
Jan 23 03:36:20 <Dave> hmm?
Jan 23 03:36:32 <Dave> f-f usb?
Jan 23 03:37:03 <orzo> well my plan is to have an altoids box with two female usb and one mail usb cable comming out of it going to a power source
Jan 23 03:37:29 <DocScrutinizer2> u need male mini for FR, and you need male std for power or a bullet or mini-female
Jan 23 03:38:05 <orzo> ya, but i figure i'll use a male A connector to a male mini connector for the neo
Jan 23 03:38:15 <orzo> i have such an adapter in the jpeg i posted
Jan 23 03:39:33 <orzo> my phone is the neo1973 gta01v4
Jan 23 03:40:08 <DocScrutinizer2> yeah, and did you check if all this makes for a correct pin-to-pin asignment
Jan 23 03:40:10 <DocScrutinizer2> ?
Jan 23 03:40:28 <orzo> what do you mean?  
Jan 23 03:40:41 <orzo> i have 5 pins on teh back of each female usb
Jan 23 03:40:49 <orzo> i can connect them up in whatever way i want i figure
Jan 23 03:41:17 <orzo> so its possible to do the correct connections, right?
Jan 23 03:41:22 <DocScrutinizer2> and I see 4 pins in every male std usbjack
Jan 23 03:41:25 <orzo> sorry, 4 pins
Jan 23 03:41:37 <orzo> 4 pins on the back of each female usb connector
Jan 23 03:41:58 <yoyo> someone interested in eleGlade? http://d3p.pl/tmp/eleGlade_0.4.png
Jan 23 03:43:30 <orzo> i figure the id pin is lost somehow in a mini B to full A adapter
Jan 23 03:43:49 <Dave> :x
Jan 23 03:43:51 <orzo> so i wont be able to connect that to the charger
Jan 23 03:44:00 <orzo> but do i need it?
Jan 23 03:47:27 <Kagee> I ran opkg upgrade on my fso-stable 4.1, witch turned out to be a bad idea :-S
Jan 23 03:47:50 <orzo> what happens to the id pin in a mini B to male A wire?
Jan 23 03:55:19 <DocScrutinizer> orzo: no, charger will work without idpin. U need to set chargecurrent via some applet on FR then
Jan 23 03:55:56 <DocScrutinizer> orzo: id-pin left open in adapters
Jan 23 03:56:00 <orzo> i want this thing mainly to use usb devices
Jan 23 03:56:04 <orzo> not to charge the phone
Jan 23 03:56:44 <orzo> DocScrutinizer: what about calbes?  Same as adapters right?  id-pin left open?
Jan 23 03:56:51 <orzo> cables
Jan 23 03:56:58 <DocScrutinizer> yeah, you got a GTA01. So you don't need to care about usb-power mode
Jan 23 03:57:07 <DocScrutinizer> yup
Jan 23 03:57:20 <Dave> that sounds good :)
Jan 23 04:22:17 <orzo> http://localhost/ybox-diagram.jpg
Jan 23 04:22:27 <orzo> anyone want to draw lines to show the connections for me?
Jan 23 04:22:29 <orzo> heh
Jan 23 04:40:48 <orzo>  http://localhost/ybox-diagram2.jpg -- Connect the Red Dots for me?
Jan 23 04:43:17 <orzo> er
Jan 23 04:43:23 <orzo> oops
Jan 23 04:43:31 <orzo>  http://urz.jerkface.net/ybox-diagram2.jpg
Jan 23 05:15:42 <Kagee> Is there a crash-course in cli-framework ?
Jan 23 05:22:16 <orzo> Is this a correct y-cable diagram?  http://urz.jerkface.net/ybox-diagram3.jpg
Jan 23 05:39:27 <Karadog> Hi. anyone there??
Jan 23 05:39:51 <orzo> no
Jan 23 05:40:52 <Karadog> haha...
Jan 23 05:42:00 <Karadog> the daily testing stop working????
Jan 23 05:43:04 <Kagee> gsm firmware upgrade?
Jan 23 05:43:55 <Kagee> there's one avalible?
Jan 23 05:44:22 <orzo> from when?
Jan 23 05:44:26 <orzo> i flashed my gsm
Jan 23 05:45:13 <Kagee> don't ask me, i havent used my fr in months :-P Just readin up on some bugs etc now, and one mentioned a firmware upgrade
Jan 23 05:45:46 <Karadog> I mean the http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing 
Jan 23 05:46:28 <Karadog> The latest is 20090120, So missing 20090121 and 20090122
Jan 23 05:53:46 <Karadog> I am looking forward to the new testing images....
Jan 23 05:55:36 <brian__> om daily?
Jan 23 05:58:49 <Kagee> Can i safely run opkg upgrade om my fresh Om2008.12-image?
Jan 23 05:59:53 <Karadog> yes, you can
Jan 23 06:00:02 <Kagee> Are there any buts?
Jan 23 06:02:03 <Karadog> not sure......Actually testing software running quite well...
Jan 23 06:02:07 <brian__> as long as u have an ip
Jan 23 06:02:26 <Karadog> hehe...
Jan 23 06:02:55 <brian__> wont do any good
Jan 23 06:03:17 <brian__> unless there was an update today
Jan 23 06:04:12 * Kagee crossing his fingers and running upgrade
Jan 23 06:05:46 <Kagee> noting. must be good
Jan 23 06:06:19 <brian__> linball
Jan 23 06:10:57 <Karadog> hehe ......
Jan 23 06:11:04 <Karadog> Everything will be OK
Jan 23 06:11:36 <Karadog> I am always using software in testing repository
Jan 23 06:11:46 <Karadog> Seems no big problems.
Jan 23 06:11:52 <Kagee> Om2008.x is not FSO-based? not cli-framework, dbus etc ? :-(
Jan 23 07:48:14 <pouype> hello
Jan 23 08:48:25 <Hopscotch> good morning
Jan 23 08:49:15 <husku> not that good :)
Jan 23 08:49:48 <husku> i had to dig some taxi out of my driveway (stuck in snow) to get to work :)
Jan 23 08:50:10 <husku> had some nice 30mins of shoveling and pushing :)
Jan 23 08:52:49 <xEBIx> good mornig
Jan 23 08:52:49 <xEBIx> is there a german channel?