**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 02 02:59:57 2009 Mar 02 03:13:53 freesmartphone.org: 03daniel 07framework * re7e83c6ff381 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/gsm/ (const.py sms.py): Mar 02 03:13:53 freesmartphone.org: ogsmd: Add support for sms-submit-report Mar 02 03:13:53 freesmartphone.org: Switch key and value of TP_FCS so we ease the common lookup Mar 02 03:13:55 freesmartphone.org: 03daniel 07framework * ra98370c17ad5 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/gsm/sms.py: Mar 02 03:13:56 freesmartphone.org: ogsmd: Add support for RP-ERROR and RP-ACK in sms-submit-reports Mar 02 03:13:58 freesmartphone.org: This is controlled by a boolean variable at creation. Mar 02 03:14:00 freesmartphone.org: SMSSubmitReport(True) generates a submit-report for RP-ACK and Mar 02 03:14:02 freesmartphone.org: SMSSubmitReport(False) generates a submit-report for RP-ERROR Mar 02 03:14:06 freesmartphone.org: 03daniel 07framework * r75df7f6dd9fc 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/gsm/sms.py: ogsmd: Remove cruft from sms-submit-report, add sms-status-report Mar 02 03:14:09 freesmartphone.org: 03daniel 07framework * rc13d9ad8b19c 10/tests/sms.py: Mar 02 03:14:11 freesmartphone.org: tests: Add test cases for sms-submit-report and sms-status-report Mar 02 03:14:13 freesmartphone.org: Additionally, rename the PDUs to clarify their content. Mar 02 03:52:24 hvem er du Dave i openmoko universet? Mar 02 03:56:05 :D Mar 02 03:56:08 I AM DAVE. Mar 02 03:56:22 hvem er du? ;p Mar 02 04:02:03 slapp arbeidsledig datanerd som finner ut hvordan livet i argentina/uruguay er Mar 02 04:02:05 lol Mar 02 04:28:21 is openmoko influenced by the financial crisis in anyway? Mar 02 04:31:47 proly alot of coders out of work Mar 02 04:31:59 y lots of free time Mar 02 04:37:01 true Mar 02 05:13:00 ¬_¬ Mar 02 05:13:32 u are getting very very sleeeepy Mar 02 05:14:19 more like tired... Mar 02 05:14:24 TIRED OF OPENMOKO... ¬_¬ Mar 02 05:16:59 then why are we still here then? Mar 02 05:17:37 #'s Are dropping Mar 02 07:13:31 so.. how does one get a list of current pdp contexts? Mar 02 07:13:46 GetNetworkStatus doesn't seem to show it Mar 02 07:23:05 good morning :) Mar 02 07:23:22 i wish... Mar 02 07:24:28 also, i wished my andy-tracking builds would boot Mar 02 08:34:01 morning Mar 02 09:12:32 anyone tried to build fso-console-image lately and actually had any success with it ? Mar 02 09:17:16 good morning Mar 02 10:30:19 Hi there! Mar 02 10:30:28 I've got a little problem. Mar 02 10:31:11 Whenever I start openmoko-agpsui, the window ist uge and not resizeable... Mar 02 10:31:18 Well, it is, but you can only make it bigger Mar 02 10:31:53 It works fine if I use ssh -X to view it on a bigger screen Mar 02 10:42:10 Anyone know if there's a podcast application compatible with freerunner. A big play/pause button, maybe ability to download new podcasts, easy 10s rewind and so on? Mar 02 10:53:27 greetings through current fso daily with pidgin and gprs riding 200kmh on a train with a stable connection :) Mar 02 10:53:52 :) Mar 02 10:54:49 (its the first time, the connection does not drop... nice...) Mar 02 10:55:58 ;-) Mar 02 10:56:13 :) Mar 02 10:56:42 So get your gpds online :-P Mar 02 10:59:39 it is.. but it sometimes hangs on the friend function... (if the connection is to slow) so i better leave it off for now Mar 02 11:23:14 bye bye.. batt is low.. Mar 02 11:28:26 :) Mar 02 11:28:59 "Ancient chinese proverb: "Neo owner is man carrying wall charger" " Mar 02 13:37:44 does anyone test pokylinux poky-image-sato-om-gta02-20081022024417.rootfs.jffs2 Mar 02 13:38:04 http://pokylinux.org/autobuild/poky/5558/ does the development stop on poky ? Mar 02 13:38:23 22-Oct-2008 04:21 67.3M Mar 02 13:40:18 a litle bit Mar 02 13:47:17 how many month does shr need ? Mar 02 14:01:37 http://scap.linuxtogo.org/index.php?page=7 what carlender app is that ? Mar 02 14:42:15 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Harry Mar 02 14:42:29 Thank you for help!! Mar 02 15:03:01 anyone experience wakeup after slightly putting pressure on the sides of the freerunner_ Mar 02 15:03:06 ? Mar 02 15:06:00 I think maybe the left side Mar 02 15:06:06 is the culprit Mar 02 15:09:05 unsurprising Mar 02 15:09:17 why so, Dave? Mar 02 15:09:19 it's like a fragile sleeping baby, try not to touch it or wake it up ;p Mar 02 15:09:34 what is it that triggers it? Mar 02 15:10:25 likely the TS Mar 02 15:10:30 TS? Mar 02 15:10:34 touchscreen Mar 02 15:10:47 since I DOUBT anyone has coded wakeup into accelerometers (which also sounds stupid) Mar 02 15:10:55 but here at openmoko, it wouldn't surprise me :D Mar 02 15:11:01 since epic fail has been coded before. Mar 02 15:12:15 yup, it's the ts Mar 02 15:12:39 any way to desensitize it on suspend? Mar 02 15:14:27 desensitizing phone condom? :D Mar 02 15:14:56 hardy har Mar 02 15:16:41 :P Mar 02 15:16:52 is it less sensitive under other kernel? Mar 02 15:16:53 s Mar 02 15:18:03 I have no idea. Seems unlikely, but it's clearly a wakeup issue ¬_¬ Mar 02 15:18:20 heck, I'd just be glad it wakes up at all, for now :p Mar 02 15:18:29 I should have gotten an n96.... Mar 02 15:18:37 yep Mar 02 15:18:41 me too Mar 02 15:21:07 isn`t this thing supposed to be a phone, for christ sake Mar 02 15:21:10 ? Mar 02 15:21:53 some people don't seem to think so Mar 02 15:22:28 I hope that those people aren't the majority of the dev community Mar 02 15:23:18 I mean, for #$%^ sake, they put "Free your phone" on the .com page Mar 02 15:24:12 if the #1 priority for this thing isn't daily telephone usage, they been pulling quite a few legs Mar 02 15:24:20 *they've Mar 02 15:27:37 how is it that I'm the only one truly pissed about this? Mar 02 15:29:54 Maybe you aren't a developer Mar 02 15:30:02 bingo Mar 02 15:30:29 wrong phone them Mar 02 15:30:31 *then Mar 02 15:30:47 they advertised it as a phone both suitable for devs and users Mar 02 15:30:54 really? Mar 02 15:30:59 summon mwester Mar 02 15:31:04 wiki.openmoko.org says Mar 02 15:31:06 logical AND =p Mar 02 15:31:17 gta01 - for kernel devs; gta02 - for devs Mar 02 15:31:20 :p Mar 02 15:31:25 can anyone tell me if the openmoko phone can be used for basic text messaging and phone calls, i remeber reading that audio quality was not that good but figure things might have progressed since then Mar 02 15:31:43 badcloud: check the community mailing list. there are dozens complains like that. Mar 02 15:32:28 oly: I've been using shr-unstable for a while, and ``it works''. Mar 02 15:32:35 oy Mar 02 15:32:38 bad timing oly :D Mar 02 15:33:43 okay, been thinking of getting one but would like to use it as a phone as well but my only needs are phone calls and text messaging Mar 02 15:33:56 oly, STAY AWAY Mar 02 15:34:03 oly: if you are not a developer it's a waste of money Mar 02 15:34:31 I am a developer but not really low level :p Mar 02 15:34:40 generally code in python most of the time Mar 02 15:34:46 or poweruser with patience for stability in exactly those two areas of usage 'g' Mar 02 15:35:01 they lurv the hissy thing here, you'll feel at home Mar 02 15:35:03 henk, indeed Mar 02 15:35:08 python is a good language for fso afaik Mar 02 15:35:26 it's THE language Mar 02 15:35:50 thank god they're rewriting it in vala :p Mar 02 15:36:09 I would certainly be intrested in writting some software i assume it probably has python bindings, Mar 02 15:37:00 oly: heard of paroli yet ? Mar 02 15:37:18 oly: phone app in python on FR using efl Mar 02 15:37:28 nope not heard of it Mar 02 15:37:36 http://www.paroli-project.org/ Mar 02 15:37:40 haha Mar 02 15:37:44 PROPAGANDA Mar 02 15:37:48 hehe Mar 02 15:37:51 sure thing Mar 02 15:37:54 mirko-paroli: how is paroli in shr? Mar 02 15:38:00 haven't tried it Mar 02 15:38:03 :( Mar 02 15:38:10 let me see Mar 02 15:38:22 but is should be an easy fix Mar 02 15:40:31 oly: the easiest way to try is to flash a paroli-image (fso 5.1 based) and boot it twice ;) Mar 02 15:41:08 :P Mar 02 15:41:26 first he has to buy a FR though =P Mar 02 15:41:27 Dave: hey at least I am honest :) Mar 02 15:41:32 true enough Mar 02 15:41:33 but Mar 02 15:41:35 yep, :) Mar 02 15:41:40 you can paroli run on you computer also Mar 02 15:41:41 Yes :D Mar 02 15:41:57 it's a lot faster too :P Mar 02 15:42:08 yeehaw! Mar 02 15:42:11 but than you'd need to compile the python bindings Mar 02 15:42:37 faster because we don't load actual data, so no access to SIMs GSMs etc Mar 02 15:42:52 A.K.A. evil devices Mar 02 15:42:55 I guess the other question are there any plans for a mark 3 phone any time soon ? Mar 02 15:43:04 Dave: precisely Mar 02 15:43:17 all this communication Mar 02 15:43:21 who needs it anyhow ? :) Mar 02 15:44:43 Not us developers, that's who :P Mar 02 15:44:49 hehe Mar 02 15:44:55 no seriously Mar 02 15:45:09 we are getting close and are making good progress Mar 02 15:45:16 it'll be a bit but not too long Mar 02 15:45:34 I want this thing to work and to be stable Mar 02 15:45:38 that is my goal Mar 02 15:46:20 As is everyone else's ;) Mar 02 15:46:29 hehe true enough Mar 02 15:51:57 mirko-paroli: how many developers are there working on paroli ? Mar 02 15:52:10 currently 3ish Mar 02 15:52:48 mirko-paroli: good luck Mar 02 15:52:56 CVirus: think that's not enough? Mar 02 15:53:11 mirko-paroli: I can not tell whether it is enough or not Mar 02 15:53:24 mirko-paroli: but from the website I see that you guys have been doing good work so far Mar 02 15:53:36 well as mentioned on the list a while back we are looking for help Mar 02 15:53:52 i.e. more devs Mar 02 15:54:00 I'd love to help as soon as I'm done with my exams Mar 02 15:54:11 and as soon as I buy a freerunner too :-p Mar 02 15:54:14 ah goodold uni :) Mar 02 15:54:17 hehe Mar 02 15:54:21 that might come in handy Mar 02 15:54:36 I was just wondering .. why EFL ? Mar 02 15:55:03 "fast", scalable, flexible Mar 02 15:55:12 Qt Mar 02 15:55:17 great potential Mar 02 15:55:21 hmm Mar 02 15:55:26 qt is big Mar 02 15:55:34 huge to say it nicely Mar 02 15:55:39 it is Mar 02 15:55:50 but there's almost nothing that you can't do with Qt Mar 02 15:55:59 Qt can feed my cat Mar 02 15:56:02 hehe Mar 02 15:56:24 I dunno .. probably you're more experienced Mar 02 15:56:49 i am have a thing for small, flexible and exciting Mar 02 15:57:22 mirko-paroli: did you write any Qt before ? Mar 02 15:57:26 nope Mar 02 15:57:30 I see Mar 02 15:57:38 I was just gonna say you shouldn't over estimate my experience Mar 02 15:57:50 mind you I never mentioned it myself ;) Mar 02 15:59:26 my qt knowledge is hear-say and copying it around experience Mar 02 15:59:29 and it is huge Mar 02 15:59:51 I would not say it is bad or even hint at that, because I simply don't know Mar 02 16:02:17 mirko-paroli: http://doc.trolltech.com/4.4/qt-embedded.html Mar 02 16:02:38 hehe Mar 02 16:02:44 it's not that I haven't heard of it Mar 02 16:02:53 i'm sure Mar 02 16:03:04 and if I am not mistaken my GUI is qt Mar 02 16:03:12 (on my laptop) Mar 02 16:05:09 WIRUS Mar 02 16:05:26 DAVEY Mar 02 16:05:37 ffs .. stop calling me that Mar 02 16:05:45 :P Mar 02 16:05:48 damn Mar 02 16:06:21 105irus Mar 02 16:07:11 damn Mar 02 16:12:22 lpotter: ping Mar 02 16:12:31 are you ore qt on Fr still allive? Mar 02 16:12:39 *or Mar 02 16:16:06 btw: wget http://people.debian.org/~pzn/tz-brasil/tz-brasil.zic && zic tz-brasil.zic Mar 02 16:19:49 CVirus: Muhammad Mar 02 16:20:35 bumbl: what is it ? Mar 02 16:23:16 02.03.09 17:06 -!- CVirus is now known as Mohammed Mar 02 16:23:16 02.03.09 17:06 -!- Mohammed is now known as Mohamed Mar 02 16:23:30 it's my real name by the way Mar 02 16:23:42 ah Mar 02 16:23:50 now back off before I blow this channel up Mar 02 16:23:59 :-p Mar 02 16:26:08 CVirus: no point in that 72 one-way women for eternity are not worth the trouble ;) Mar 02 16:27:20 ROFL Mar 02 16:27:58 Hi Mar 02 16:28:16 is there a good howto or tutorial how to create an ipk file Mar 02 16:28:35 the link to download the ipkg-tools from ftp seems to be dead Mar 02 16:29:15 hmm best would be setting up the toolchain using mokomakefile + writing a .bb Mar 02 16:29:32 freesmartphone.org: 03daniel 07framework * rc05770cb9285 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/ (device.py modems/abstract/unsolicited.py): Mar 02 16:29:32 freesmartphone.org: ogsmd: Change signature of org.fs.Sms.IncomingMessageReceipt Mar 02 16:29:32 freesmartphone.org: Since an sms-status-report can have userdata this signal now has the Mar 02 16:29:32 freesmartphone.org: same format as IncomingMessage. No API breakage since this feature Mar 02 16:29:34 freesmartphone.org: wasn't really part of the API until now. Mar 02 16:29:36 freesmartphone.org: 03daniel 07framework * r423a2cfc7490 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/ (device.py gsm/sms.py modems/abstract/mediator.py): Mar 02 16:29:39 freesmartphone.org: ogsmd: Add org.freesmartphone.SMS.{Ack,Nack}Message() Mar 02 16:29:41 freesmartphone.org: These are used to give positive/negative acknoledgements about an Mar 02 16:29:43 freesmartphone.org: IncomingMessage. If an IncomingMessage is not Acked in a given time it Mar 02 16:29:45 freesmartphone.org: will be sent to SIM storage. Mar 02 16:39:32 hi folks Mar 02 16:39:53 i'm trying to change the uboot splash image Mar 02 16:40:11 but unfortunately I'm getting something too big Mar 02 16:40:32 I know that I can change the uboot environment Mar 02 16:41:00 you have to access the u-boot console Mar 02 16:41:05 I know that Mar 02 16:41:17 and then you can partition the nand Mar 02 16:41:32 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Harry help to fill the survey Mar 02 16:41:32 so there you have to enlarge the u-boot partition Mar 02 16:41:41 the problem is more "how much can I give to the splash without deleting the kernel ?3 Mar 02 16:42:09 oh, sorry, of course i mean the splash partition Mar 02 16:42:18 not u-boot Mar 02 16:42:34 i've tried "setenv splashimage nand read.e 0x32000000 splash 0x25000\; unzip 0x32000000 0x8800000 0x96000" Mar 02 16:42:45 but 0x25000 seems a bit large... Mar 02 16:43:07 although it boots, some (a lot) of kernel message are missing at boot time Mar 02 16:43:48 ther shouldnt be any problems in the partition size Mar 02 16:44:03 of course you may not overwrite the splash partition Mar 02 16:44:55 btw, if any of you folks wanna try my newly written perpendicular app, youre welcome to try it Mar 02 16:44:57 http://rabenfrost.net/openmoko/perpendicular-0.1.tar.bz2 Mar 02 16:45:13 It has a very ugly makfile, which is a little sad Mar 02 16:45:24 but if I put a size that's too big, won't it erase something else ? Mar 02 16:46:00 What should be erased, if the partition is large enough? of course you have to create a new kernel partition then, too Mar 02 16:47:32 so i'll have to re-flash the whole thing ? (put the kernel, splash and rootfs again) Mar 02 16:48:52 not necessarily, are you sure, that the splash partition is not big enough? Mar 02 16:49:20 maybe u can create a new smaller kernel partition to enlarge the splash partition Mar 02 16:49:28 then you dont need to touch the rootfs Mar 02 16:50:53 well, how do I see that ? :) Mar 02 16:51:43 just look at the wiki, its some time ago i have played with the partitions Mar 02 16:53:45 by any chance, do you remember the interesting pages ? Mar 02 16:54:57 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Bootloader_commands Mar 02 16:55:42 I did it at a Neo meeting in Berlin, where we were told what to do Mar 02 16:56:22 vininim: did you try paroli on shr? Mar 02 16:56:35 not yet Mar 02 16:59:04 baba_melone: thanks Mar 02 16:59:23 np Mar 02 17:02:20 I'll try it this evening Mar 02 17:02:27 ah k Mar 02 18:35:13 anyone knows where i get this webkit browser? http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/e4340718ef28604518012670269d0063.png Mar 02 18:37:44 mokel: I think it's midori Mar 02 18:37:49 mokel: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications#Internet Mar 02 18:37:55 or pyqt-browser Mar 02 18:37:59 opkg.org Mar 02 18:46:09 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * ra917a543fb26 10/libfsoframework/ (8 files in 3 dirs): logger: syslog logger complete; filelog logger knows about stderr Mar 02 18:46:12 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rf20835234527 10/libfsoframework/ (12 files in 2 dirs): master logger factory done Mar 02 18:46:12 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r41ddce9d5327 10/libfsoframework/ (README fsoframework-2.0.pc.in): adjust .pc file Mar 02 18:46:14 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rad26a12a5cf4 10/fsodeviced/ (20 files in 6 dirs): fsodeviced: build skeleton Mar 02 18:46:14 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r457a19f3273b 10/ (Makefile libfsoframework/tests/Makefile.am): libfsoframework: typo in Makefile.am Mar 02 18:46:17 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * re6c75634031a 10/README: explain Mar 02 19:17:21 I'm near the end with the Radio Interface Layer in the android. So the phone is full function Mar 02 19:20:55 hi all, i need to take out the microSD from the moko but i can't remember where to put my "hands" Mar 02 19:22:26 cga :D Mar 02 19:22:31 Dave: !!! Mar 02 19:22:44 Dave: i gave up. today i bought a nokia XD Mar 02 19:22:52 :D Mar 02 19:22:53 yay Mar 02 19:23:02 until moko will be good for main phone anyway Mar 02 19:23:07 right :] Mar 02 19:23:10 =) Mar 02 19:24:02 retracile :o Mar 02 19:24:10 Dave: can you link me to the "u/mount" page?? cannot find it Mar 02 19:24:23 To what page? Mar 02 19:25:01 the very first one one has to look in order to put/take off the SIM and microSD Mar 02 19:25:03 Daaaave! Mar 02 19:25:21 Yeeeeeeeeees Mar 02 19:25:46 omfg Dave you are useless :P Mar 02 19:25:49 :D Mar 02 19:26:00 Hey, it's not my fault I'm not italian :p Mar 02 19:26:06 lol Mar 02 19:26:11 * Dave slaps cga around a bit with a large Hire Mar 02 19:26:25 * cga switch Dave's internet off Mar 02 19:26:29 :O Mar 02 19:26:29 *switches even Mar 02 19:26:43 * Dave switches cga's freerunner on Mar 02 19:26:49 Muwahahahahaha >:) Mar 02 19:27:01 hey now i'm working ~100m from the main italian internet bone... one day or another... :P Mar 02 19:27:19 haha Mar 02 19:27:22 italia Mar 02 19:27:44 Dave: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner#Accessing_the_microSD_card <<--this one Mar 02 19:27:50 Ah yes :D Mar 02 19:27:53 well not really.. Mar 02 19:27:57 i need hw instructions Mar 02 19:28:02 oh Mar 02 19:28:16 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner#Installing_the_Micro-SD_card.2C_the_SIM_card.2C_and_the_Battery <<--this one. =) Mar 02 19:30:17 done Mar 02 20:13:03 heh Mar 02 20:17:12 :o Mar 02 21:17:26 fuck, it's not easy to activate a new simcard in argentina Mar 02 21:18:07 need to daile *22# and then get some data info and input some numbers Mar 02 21:18:11 but the dialer dies Mar 02 21:18:16 dont like the data Mar 02 21:20:38 fredrin: which dialer? Mar 02 21:21:44 you there, Dave? Mar 02 21:21:45 shr Mar 02 21:21:58 fredrin: i don't remember what dialer shr has Mar 02 21:23:09 i used an ooold nokia phone to do the registering job Mar 02 21:25:51 so, does anyone have a wired stereo headset with mic that works? Mar 02 21:28:26 humm, where do I set gprs settings in Shr unstable? Mar 02 21:47:27 http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/announcing-the-first-programming-competition-for-openmoko-phones/ Mar 02 21:57:13 can I somehow find my number on the simcard... Mar 02 21:57:35 I'm not alowed to call someone, since I don't have any credit.... Mar 02 21:57:47 so I can't get my number that way Mar 02 21:58:28 I don't think there is a standard way to get the number from the sim Mar 02 21:59:12 most operators customer service numbers are free over here, you can write down the info on the sim and they should be able to tell you Mar 02 21:59:59 Tig|: my spanish sucks.... Mar 02 22:00:09 so does mine :) Mar 02 22:00:18 tried it and the volume was to low, so I could not hear anything.... Mar 02 22:00:33 Tig|: are you in Argentina? Mar 02 22:00:43 UK here :) Mar 02 22:00:52 ah Mar 02 22:01:20 which distro are you using Mar 02 22:01:25 shr unstable Mar 02 22:01:36 there are tips in the wiki for turning up the volume Mar 02 22:03:11 Tig|: ok Mar 02 22:08:57 is there no way to get the number of my sim? Mar 02 22:09:15 It's pretty usefull to know your number when you get a new sim card Mar 02 22:10:12 fredrin: AT+CNUM Mar 02 22:10:50 mmontour: :) where do I type that? Mar 02 22:11:25 A terminal talking to the GSM modem - maybe 'mickeyterm'. There should be instructions on the wiki somewhere Mar 02 22:12:13 mmontour: why use such a special program btw? it's just a serial port Mar 02 22:14:13 mickeyterm talks through the 0710muxd program, not directly to the serial port (IIRC). Mar 02 22:14:54 mmontour: no worky Mar 02 22:15:12 AT+CNUM Mar 02 22:15:13 AT+CNUM Mar 02 22:15:13 +CME ERROR: not found Mar 02 22:15:23 what pass? Mar 02 22:18:51 mmontour: other commands I could try Mar 02 22:20:31 AT+CIMI should retrieve the IMSI number of your SIM (don't paste the output into IRC). You may need to specify a PIN with AT+CPIN="nnnn" Mar 02 22:21:10 Also you may need to type "AT+CFUN=1" to turn on the GSM modem Mar 02 22:22:25 AT+CIMI worked Mar 02 22:22:26 who know about connect FPGA board to freerunner? Mar 02 22:23:48 just get AT+CPIN=1111 Mar 02 22:23:48 +CME ERROR: operation not allowed Mar 02 22:25:49 humm, I can feel the frustation level rises.... Mar 02 22:26:02 There's also "AT+COPS" to register with the GSM network Mar 02 22:26:48 mmontour: that worked Mar 02 22:27:22 mmontour: but the command AT+CNUM don't existe Mar 02 22:27:35 Sorry, I'm out of ideas. Mar 02 22:27:50 that's cool :) Mar 02 22:28:00 i learned some things anyway :) Mar 03 00:21:08 <_beast_at> hi everyone Mar 03 01:02:30 is it smart of dumb to run the GSM firmware upgrade process inside of 'screen'? Mar 03 01:02:48 or.. Mar 03 01:03:55 instead of using 2 ssh connections Mar 03 01:04:04 and if the ssh connection dies or something Mar 03 01:04:32 or if it suspends... gah Mar 03 01:06:55 screen is always better than ssh Mar 03 01:07:48 norsk! Mar 03 01:08:55 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Harry Mar 03 01:10:33 give a hand fill the survey...thanks :D Mar 03 01:27:13 ello Mar 03 01:28:03 :o Mar 03 01:29:40 will the gta01 charge faster if i plug it in turned off? Mar 03 01:29:59 orzo! Mar 03 01:30:03 dave! Mar 03 01:30:06 and, no Mar 03 01:30:20 (it will not) Mar 03 01:30:48 damn Mar 03 01:31:02 the low battery life wouldnt be as bad if it charged instantly Mar 03 01:31:22 :\ Mar 03 01:33:23 i broke an ereader today Mar 03 01:33:29 dropped it Mar 03 01:33:48 :O Mar 03 01:35:46 :) Mar 03 01:35:53 Can I have the bits? Mar 03 01:35:57 * SpeedEvil stabs e-ink Mar 03 01:36:09 (for their lack of selling e-ink film) Mar 03 01:36:30 Though :/ Mar 03 01:36:36 well i need it for what it still does atm Mar 03 01:36:42 I'd really like an open-source reader. Mar 03 01:37:23 since all my sd slots seem to break, the one on the reader has become important Mar 03 01:38:25 USB-SD are very cheap fortunately. Mar 03 01:40:21 oh Mar 03 01:40:29 well so are broken ereaders Mar 03 01:40:46 i saw some on ebay, prs 505 Mar 03 01:40:58 why do you want the bits? Mar 03 01:42:11 orzo: to try harvesting the film from. Mar 03 01:43:23 Actually, practically, I suppose I have enough to be going on with. Mar 03 01:43:39 I got some displays from magazine ads from eba Mar 03 01:43:42 y Mar 03 01:44:25 what are you going to do with it? Mar 03 01:45:02 I just find it annoying that I can't try some ideas I have. Mar 03 01:45:02 well - can't commercialise, I may be able to try. Mar 03 01:45:28 For example. Take some e-ink film, place on a conductive plastic backsheet. Now 'wipe' a printer over it, and you can instantly re-write it. Mar 03 01:45:40 Ideal for rewritable permenant labels. Mar 03 01:46:23 Take a small micro and some SD, and place it in a 3cm*10cm cylinder or so, with a slot in the middle, with a linear strip of electrodes at 100DPI. Mar 03 01:46:40 Pull an e-ink page through, get an instantly printed page. Mar 03 01:46:52 at _much_ lower cost than the current book readers. Mar 03 01:48:07 Or laminate it with conductive plastic film, place on a specially designed PCB, and you've got a cheap segmented display. Mar 03 01:48:17 Redesignable by only swapping the PCB Mar 03 02:45:19 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Harry, give me few minutes fill the survey...thanks **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Mar 03 02:59:56 2009