**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Apr 23 02:59:57 2009 Apr 23 04:23:13 raster what u do with dave? Apr 23 04:29:31 slaxxer: i ate him Apr 23 04:42:19 hooray Apr 23 04:50:33 what no bondage to manufacture your phone case by hand Apr 23 04:51:09 he bowed up didnt he Apr 23 06:50:28 good morning Apr 23 07:28:18 good morning Apr 23 10:47:25 I don't talk here often enough Apr 23 10:49:35 hi Apr 23 10:50:30 just installed Qi on my fr, but i can't boot... downloaded qi here http://people.openmoko.org/andy/qi-s3c2442-master-hist_3b8513d8b3d9615e.udfu and uploaded with dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D qi-s3c2442-master-hist_3b8513d8b3d9615e.udfu Apr 23 10:51:58 i pressed power button one time, then it vibrated, and then i pushed AUX button (did'nt do it on purpose). now i can't boot (pressing power buttion don't boot) Apr 23 10:52:09 i tried to remove battery, that didn't help Apr 23 10:52:54 and i can't get the DFU mode (pressing AUX+Power does nothing) to reinstall u-boot... any idea please ? Apr 23 11:08:10 PierreN: reread the Qi wiki page? Apr 23 11:08:23 PierreN: because you obviously don't understand how it is supposed to work. Apr 23 11:09:08 PierreN: and don't forget: Qi _is_ cool, one just needs to use it properly. Apr 23 14:52:03 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r9c746079d020 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/gsm/channel.py: ogsmd: secure sending the first line of multiline messages against errors. This should improve #332 Apr 23 14:56:05 PaulFertser: Bricking your phone by pressing AUX after turning it on is a known issue? :P (Just re-reading the logs, and that's what it looks like happened) Apr 23 15:48:03 with enlightenment installed, i switched from illume to asu theme. how to go back to illume theme please ? Apr 23 15:48:30 in config dialog box, i can't get the theme setting dialog box... Apr 23 18:49:19 PierreN: ping Apr 23 18:50:10 what ? Apr 23 18:50:43 ping www.theme.org ? Apr 23 18:51:26 still having qi issues? Apr 23 18:53:20 allagator: well no i could solve it (had to remove battery, press AUX, then put battery, press POWER, unpush AUX to start it) Apr 23 18:53:53 thats good Apr 23 18:54:35 and do you have an idea for my theme problem please ? :-) Apr 23 18:55:35 ASU > SHR ? Apr 23 18:56:46 what ? well i had normal illume theme but switched to ASU theme, but can't go back to original theme because ASU theme is buggy with E Apr 23 18:57:22 oh i see Apr 23 18:58:29 been looking around ~/.e/* Apr 23 18:58:53 worse case senario just rm .e/* -r Apr 23 18:59:03 and restart x Apr 23 18:59:06 will it "respawn" ? Apr 23 18:59:20 defaults like when you first flashed/booted Apr 23 18:59:38 make a bakup in case Apr 23 18:59:51 mv .e/ .e_bkup Apr 23 19:02:48 yep it worked Apr 23 19:02:56 drastic solution ^^ Apr 23 19:07:16 i wonder if you can save a current setup as a theme Apr 23 19:07:26 so it would be easier to swap Apr 23 19:08:04 i bet i know who really knows whats going on raster Apr 23 19:32:00 well you do a cp .e .e.sav Apr 23 19:32:04 to save a theme Apr 23 19:32:13 thene mv .e.sav .e Apr 23 19:32:18 to restore it ^^ Apr 23 19:32:26 then* Apr 23 19:53:15 Please help, i get problem in: http://parduoduv.puslapiai.lt at header error. (top). What can it be? Apr 23 19:54:20 damn. he nearly fooled me Apr 23 20:05:45 during some calls, i can't hear anything / the other person doesn't hear anything Apr 23 20:06:29 just to be sure, in alsamixer, what are the names of the Mic and the Speaker _during a call_ please ? Apr 23 20:06:58 That's not a very good haiku. Apr 23 20:07:18 More seriously - why - buzzing? Apr 23 20:07:31 what ? Apr 23 20:08:40 hum sorry i'm a non nativ speaker (does it seem so obvious ? ;) Apr 23 20:09:25 well my poem meant, that what are the names of the alsa controller of the Mic and the speaker during a call ? Apr 23 20:12:22 are there some QtEI guys? Apr 23 20:13:15 PierreN: sorry - the mixer is _horribly_ complex - I don't know. Apr 23 20:13:36 PierreN: they simply cannot hear anything - or they hear buzzing? Apr 23 20:14:25 they hear _anything_ Apr 23 20:14:27 not a buzz Apr 23 20:14:38 _nothing_ Apr 23 20:14:39 * Apr 23 20:14:40 I have putted Apr 23 20:15:15 echo nameserver 208.67.222.222 > /etc/resolv.conf and echo nameserver 208.67.220.220 >> /etc/resolv.conf. but DNS seems not to work :( how can I solve? Apr 23 20:17:07 PierreN: wiki page Neo1973_Sound_System has a nice diagram with all alsa control names printed over it. Apr 23 20:17:38 PierreN: what distribution are you running? Apr 23 20:17:47 (or probably Subsystem, i don't remember exactly) Apr 23 20:18:14 shellevil: OM2008.12 Apr 23 20:18:24 PaulFertser: it's the same for the fr , Apr 23 20:18:25 ? Apr 23 20:18:40 PierreN: The page is actually describing mostly fr. Apr 23 20:19:29 PierreN: btw, in case you somehow don't know it yet, OM2008.12 has no future (nobody is really going to support this development line). Apr 23 20:21:25 PaulFertser: yeah i know Apr 23 20:30:45 what is the distro that comes in neofreerunner by default? Apr 23 20:31:23 gigo: it was/is OM2007 Apr 23 20:31:51 do most of you use the default OS that comes with it or you guys install your own favorite os on it? Apr 23 20:32:12 gigo: nobody uses om2007 Apr 23 20:32:19 gigo: or almost nobody ;) Apr 23 20:32:23 then, what do you use? Apr 23 20:33:15 PaulFertser, ^ Apr 23 20:33:18 gigo: SHR testing, OM2009 unstable (with Paroli as default UI), Debian, Gentoo, some use Qt Extended Improved even. Apr 23 20:33:38 gigo: some are still using a Qtopia bastard called OM2008.x aka ASU. Apr 23 20:33:42 doesn't it take Debian a long time to boot on OpenMoko ? Apr 23 20:33:53 ASU is april software update? Apr 23 20:34:17 gigo: i don't boot my phone too often, haven't measured the time but it's less than 5 minutes. Apr 23 20:34:33 * Q-Master uses android for now Apr 23 20:34:36 april, august, autumn... whatever Apr 23 20:34:37 gigo: yes, ASU is what OM got after porting Qtopia to X. Apr 23 20:34:39 oh 5 minutes is too much. I was expecting it to be 1 minute or so. Apr 23 20:34:56 gigo: 1 minute is less than 5 minutes too ;) Apr 23 20:35:02 ok Apr 23 20:35:32 DocScrutinizer: have you seen "Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter. And spring"? Apr 23 20:36:15 nope Apr 23 20:36:46 gigo: also some use Hackable:1 (that's OM2007 fixed a little, based on Debian) and Pyneo. Apr 23 20:37:05 DocScrutinizer: again, thanks for the C and R you sent lindi, now we both have the buzz fixed (or at least the components in the phone :). Apr 23 20:37:29 huh, no real fix??? Apr 23 20:37:33 DocScrutinizer: weird film about buddhist monk. Apr 23 20:39:00 openmoko: 03rask 07stable * r57f7a4288aaa 10/fs/ext2/ext2fs.c: U-Boot: Update for reading inodes on ext2fs revision 1 Apr 23 20:39:13 is it possible to format the SD card with the fr, when i run on OM2008.12 on NAND ? Apr 23 20:39:30 DocScrutinizer: the buzz is away :) Apr 23 20:39:39 PierreN: sure, why not. Apr 23 20:39:49 PierreN: well, it depends on what you call "format". Apr 23 20:39:50 pfffffh, you know how to scare me Apr 23 20:41:34 DocScrutinizer: :) Apr 23 20:42:39 DocScrutinizer: are there any special changes to alsa statefiles required? Apr 23 20:43:11 switch up control48 by 1 Apr 23 20:43:34 not striktly needed, but recommended Apr 23 20:43:56 what for? Apr 23 20:44:10 PaulFertser: well partitions are divided in /dev/mtdblockX... but : how to merge them ? Apr 23 20:44:24 PierreN: mtdblock* is NAND Apr 23 20:44:32 ow Apr 23 20:44:33 compensate the mic sensitivity loss of 6dB caused by buzzfix Apr 23 20:44:49 DocScrutinizer: ok, nice. Apr 23 20:44:53 should'nt erase that one Apr 23 20:45:28 PierreN: mmcblk0 Apr 23 20:45:28 PaulFertser: but why "/dev/mmcblk0p1 7.4M 13.0k 7.0M 0% /media/card Apr 23 20:45:42 ah ok Apr 23 20:46:04 PierreN: just fdisk /dev/mmcblk0 and do what you want. Apr 23 20:46:30 PierreN: while partitioning take into account your use-cases and limitations (if any) of the bootloader you use. Apr 23 20:47:23 rhkfin: also check your control63, it should be "mic 2" Apr 23 20:48:51 DocScrutinizer: I suppose these are alsa state files for a7? Could maybe be released somewhere for others, too Apr 23 20:49:06 PaulFertser: ok thanks Apr 23 20:50:57 rhkfin: these are for all Neo. See http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/attachment/ticket/2121/gsmhandset.state.new Apr 23 20:51:54 DocScrutinizer: ok, great, thanks Apr 23 20:51:58 except for the small diference in controll48, statefiles shouldn't differ between revisions of hw Apr 23 20:53:09 please DON'T bother about the matt-hsu attachment same place. It is messing/mixing up echo and alsa-state once again. You should ignore this file Apr 23 20:53:48 ok :) Apr 23 20:59:40 rhkfin: many gsmhandset.state ship with control63="right PGA". This might or may not work, basically it's wrong. But you might need to adjust all controls for mic when switching 63 from rPGA to mic2 Apr 23 21:00:34 rhkfin: see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsystem#Alsamixer_channel_controls Apr 23 21:00:50 State: GSM <-> Built-in Handset (file gsmhandset.state) Apr 23 21:01:01 * rhkfin thinks it's complicated :) Apr 23 21:01:05 Mic volume: Apr 23 21:01:26 But I'll save your tips and will come back to these later :) Apr 23 21:01:48 huh, see wiki, addr mentioned above. What's difficult there? Apr 23 21:02:15 Too many controls to understand what's happening. But following your instructions is ok & no problem :) Apr 23 21:03:27 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsystem#Alsamixer_channel_controls just mentioning 6 controls, 4 for mic, 2 for earpiece... Apr 23 21:03:44 so what's complicated or "too many controls" there? Apr 23 21:04:27 Hmm.. ok, it's not too bad :) Apr 23 21:06:43 rhkfin: admittedly there's a few DAPMs not metioned there because they are switches mandatory for gsmhandset operation and have always been correct. So you don't need to bother when tuning an existing gsmhandset.state Apr 23 21:07:41 ok, great, thanks .) Apr 23 22:34:49 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libeflvala * r0388b15ad8ff 10/vapi/elm.vapi: elm.vapi: add Elm.Image and Elm.ImageOrient Apr 23 22:40:06 i really should install one of the cell site database packages Apr 23 22:42:34 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libeflvala * r94d75f747b49 10/vapi/elm.vapi: Apr 23 22:42:34 freesmartphone.org: elm.vapi: add global scale_set and scale_get Apr 23 22:42:34 freesmartphone.org: convert classes to namespaces, where appropriate Apr 23 22:55:43 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libeflvala * r93d8c7d03f3f 10/vapi/elm.vapi: elm.vapi: catch up with upstream API additions Apr 24 00:46:23 I've seen some notes about 16GB San SD cards on wiki. Anyone with first-hand experience here? Apr 24 02:55:17 is anyone here using the debian release of openmoko? Apr 24 02:56:08 I'd like to know if it's usable as a phone yet, specifically if the phone and sms are reliable. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Apr 24 02:59:57 2009