**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri May 22 02:59:57 2009 May 22 04:51:30 openmoko: 03werner * r5015 10/trunk/gta02-core/kicad-patches/ (3 files): May 22 04:51:30 openmoko: Refreshed the patches for KiCad revision 1774. May 22 04:51:30 openmoko: Updated fix-pinedit-collision.patch to only suppress the warning if we're May 22 04:51:30 openmoko: in pin-by-pin mode. May 22 04:55:37 openmoko: 03werner * r5016 10/trunk/gta02-core/kicad-patches/ (gerbview-export-arcs.patch series): May 22 04:55:37 openmoko: This patch adds support for exporting arcs from gerbview to pcbnew. May 22 04:55:37 openmoko: Note that this only handles arcs in non-copper layers. May 22 05:02:06 openmoko: 03werner * r5017 10/trunk/gta02-core/gta02-core.brd: Updated board with new and shiny arcs. May 22 07:06:47 good morning May 22 07:44:37 Hello, I've just installed Om2009, but I can't start Zhone: http://pastebin.ca/1427263 May 22 08:54:45 how can I get the display to unblank? May 22 08:54:54 I have ssh.... May 22 08:58:47 quatrox: somewhere in /sys/class/graphics. try echo 0 > /sys/class/graphics/fb0/blank ? May 22 08:59:21 pH5: thank you May 22 09:01:04 it worked:D May 22 09:02:27 now the second problem May 22 09:03:13 the gui crashed... no response, so I need to reboot May 22 09:52:06 where are the fonts located in shr? I'm trying to load xboard with gnuchess and it can't locate helvetica medium May 22 09:54:36 also, when I boot from nor, the kernel seems to freeze on the system clock set May 22 10:01:20 clock resolved after 'hwclock --systohc' May 22 11:14:19 |Marco|: there? May 22 11:28:38 can I re-get the opkg feed files from somewhere? May 22 12:10:12 Tanuva: dowload an tar.gz filesystem? May 22 12:11:08 Tanuva: or just look manually for the urls in http://build.shr-project.org/ May 22 12:11:35 shr has it's very own feeds, but the tar fs should work, yes :) May 22 12:12:44 btw: just discoveren mrmoku's splash screen: http://build.shr-project.org/tests/mrmoku/splash-mrmoku.ppm :) May 22 12:54:19 hellohello there May 22 14:18:10 lots of kernel modules upgrading shr-unstable May 22 14:55:22 opkg complains about a missing libelementary0 when installing intone on 2009/testing4, when -force-depends'ing, libehal is missing on startup of intone. Is that lib available somewhere? May 22 15:29:18 settings is broken on shr-unstable May 22 15:44:29 where does shr store font paths if not in /etc/X11/xorg.conf? May 22 15:46:59 anyone? May 22 15:50:51 badcloud1, May 22 15:51:04 shr doesn't use Xorg May 22 15:51:13 ah, ok May 22 15:53:12 badcloud1, if you want to google May 22 15:53:14 kdrive May 22 15:53:15 is the name. May 22 15:53:47 thanks May 22 15:56:13 hey everyone, i just installed SHR, and did opk update & upgrade...but after reboot it freezes...on some bluetooth msgs, can anyone help? May 22 15:56:23 opkg* May 22 15:56:41 actually, enlightenment probably broke May 22 15:57:07 so its back to square one? (reflashing rootfs?) May 22 15:57:14 plug your usb cable in, ssh into it, try to start enlightenment by hand to see which libraries need removed or [re]installed May 22 15:57:39 interesting, asuming ssh is on... ill try... May 22 15:58:58 yikes, /etc/fonts/fonts.conf does NOT look friendly May 22 15:59:54 Blu3, ssh is on, what command do i use to start enlightenment? May 22 16:00:02 X & May 22 16:00:11 DISPLAY=:0 enlightenment_start May 22 16:02:00 Blu3, libefreet_mime May 22 16:02:09 doesnt exist... May 22 16:02:18 ok, install it May 22 16:07:29 opkg says it doesnt exist as a package..? May 22 16:09:15 it's libefreet_mime0 May 22 16:09:26 opkg list|grep efreet May 22 16:15:50 Blu3, thanks! May 22 16:15:58 y/w :) May 22 16:29:29 what do you people think about this gta2-core? May 22 16:32:10 * SpeedEvil needs to look at it in his copious spare time May 22 16:32:50 I've been doing way too much stuff in the garden. http://www.flickr.com/photos/14560445@N08/ May 22 16:34:02 gta2-core - is basically an open-source hardware type idea based off gta02 schematics? May 22 16:34:28 but you still have time to put pictures on the net May 22 16:34:43 beer__: I needed to take the pictures anyway May 22 16:34:55 to document stuff that's flowering May 22 16:35:01 my garden is much smaller May 22 16:35:02 Wiki: "gta02-core is a community project to create a new hardware revision of gta02" May 22 16:35:07 o_O May 22 16:35:23 The garden has been nelected over the last couple of years, as my mother got iller - she was the gardner. May 22 16:35:57 She recently passed away, and I've been trying to get it into a shape where I can sanely leave it without getting overrun with weeds May 22 16:36:09 i wish i had a real tiller. i have a multi-attachment power tool, one of which is a tiller end May 22 16:36:19 It's a teeny one May 22 16:37:19 yep, 8" diam tines, about 12 inches in width May 22 16:37:44 http://mantis-uk.co.uk/2cycle_tiller_select.asp May 22 16:38:14 I'll be finished with it in a couple of weeks, and you can borrow it if you want. :) May 22 16:38:47 mine's similar in tine size. but i don't have the weight of the engine. the multi-attachment power tool generally looks like a gas powered weed eater May 22 16:38:51 and edger May 22 16:39:08 Sack of sand on top of it. Job done. May 22 16:39:26 it's "ok" for small areas that aren't baked rock May 22 16:40:26 i made a 5'x20' garden, greens and veggies; squash, peppers, tomato, corn, etc May 22 16:40:40 eating salad greens on almost a daily basis May 22 16:40:44 At the moment, I'm rotavating old compost from dead pots and stuff in, and clearing maybe 100-150m^2, and putting membrane down for the moment May 22 16:40:44 nothing else is ripe yet May 22 16:41:17 the ground i'm working with is pathetic for nutrients. mostly sand, shell, and rock May 22 16:41:20 Then I've got about another 200m^2 to gravel - meaning 20 tons or so of gravel to barrow. May 22 16:41:22 Fun. May 22 16:41:48 next year i'll get a few cubic yards of rich soil/compost and till in May 22 16:42:14 easier to hire someone to haul it in and dump it May 22 16:42:28 yeah - well - real budget problems here. May 22 16:42:34 *nod* May 22 16:54:48 Ok, more problems... :( settings inside the SHR oepns, but no category gets opened, its clicked but nothing happens (connectivity for example) May 22 16:55:00 and how do i turn on wifi from terminal... echo 1 > ....? May 22 16:56:10 mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage org.freesmartphone.Usage.SetResourcePolicy WiFi enabled May 22 16:56:25 then you probably need to do: ifup eth0 May 22 16:56:54 shr-settings may have broken libs, dunno, haven't encountered that one May 22 16:57:11 make sure frameworkd and ophonekitd are running May 22 16:57:58 sec, trying May 22 17:13:34 Blu3, ok i officially hate SHR... thanks... the turning on of wifi worked.... iwconfig eth0 power on froze the device... May 22 17:13:43 :> May 22 17:13:54 ill just switch to a diff distro, any suggestions? May 22 17:14:09 it used to do that to me too. i have a script to unload and reload the ar6000 module when i start up eth0 May 22 17:14:29 i'm waiting until the gentoo distro is more ready for it May 22 17:14:50 im hoping for the slackware distro actually, but its far from ready :) May 22 17:48:27 hi May 22 17:49:18 i just broke my AUX button. the little mechanical things that is behind the AUX button has been desoldered May 22 17:49:46 i can still push on the aux button if i maintain this little this on the board May 22 17:50:20 does anyone know have an idea of how to stick it to the board ? i don't have stuff to solder it... May 22 17:52:11 or a more realistic question : how to boot in the NOR flash without the AUX button please ? May 22 17:53:47 you need to resolder it pretty much - nothing else will do May 22 17:54:25 I don't think you can - it's a hardware thing - it selects what you boot from by the voltage coming out of the aux button May 22 17:54:26 hum i can't... don't have a soldering iron May 22 17:54:49 I mean - nothing will really work to fix it - other than solder May 22 17:54:57 maybe anyone is in the south east of france and could help me ? ^^ May 22 17:55:17 Feel like a trip to sunny scotland, and I'll do it :) May 22 17:55:36 wow i'm going to scotland this summer ! May 22 17:55:41 however, carefully shorting with a paperclip or something should work May 22 17:55:51 being careful to touch nothing else May 22 17:56:05 Buy a soldering iron. You better have one anyway. You can improvize to solder it without, but I wouldn't do so. If you haven't soldered anything in your life, you might fail even with the soldering iron. May 22 17:56:33 * SpeedEvil ponders a soldering song. May 22 17:56:42 To the tune of 'It's fun to charter an accountant. May 22 18:04:26 does anyone know if it is possible to check the state of the AUX button through ssh please ? May 22 18:04:52 You can the click if you read from the event device May 22 18:05:50 /dev/input/event4 on FR May 22 18:07:18 thanks May 22 18:36:20 anyone here have xboard and gnuchess running on shr testing? May 22 18:36:40 hi there! How to insert the uSD-card into my freerunner? May 22 18:36:58 underneath the simcard slot May 22 18:37:19 you need to gently pry it with your fingernail/small flat screwdriver May 22 18:37:25 GENTLY May 22 18:37:33 but there is micro-sd May 22 18:37:39 not uSD May 22 18:37:55 I was under the impression that micro=u May 22 18:38:14 hee)) thx May 22 18:38:52 sure May 22 18:38:59 there is a video on the wiki I think May 22 18:39:49 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner#Installing_the_Micro-SD_card.2C_the_SIM_card.2C_and_the_Battery May 22 18:40:19 http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=-8343770443102960945 May 22 18:41:31 second question: I've downloaded the latest u-boot image (http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/testing/daily/om-gta02/20090521/u-boot-gta02v5-1.3.1+gitr650149a53dbdd48bf6dfef90930c8ab182adb512-r1.bin) and firmwared it using dfu-util, but there are no changes in the bootloader screen (date on screen: 9 may 2008 ). wtf? May 22 18:41:57 sounds like you are booting via nor May 22 18:42:02 not uboot May 22 18:42:43 explain me plz May 22 18:43:33 how did you turn on your device? May 22 18:44:20 using which button(s)? May 22 18:45:59 hold AUX then hold POWER May 22 18:46:08 that loads nor May 22 18:46:17 if you just press power once May 22 18:46:22 (when it's off) May 22 18:46:30 that loads u-boot May 22 18:47:07 <|Marco|> quatrox: yeah ? May 22 18:47:26 nor is sort of a fail safe boot menu May 22 18:47:28 hm if /me just press power once then nothing happens May 22 18:47:35 in case u-boot/qi don't work for some reason May 22 18:47:43 try a long press May 22 18:48:14 ok, but then I can't see u-boot menu May 22 18:48:24 just 'openmoko' May 22 18:48:34 u-boot doesn't have a menu, I think May 22 18:48:39 it's just a bootloader May 22 18:48:48 ok May 22 18:49:21 u-boot can too have a menu May 22 18:49:31 is it possible to re-flash u-boot in nor? May 22 18:49:42 (at least on gta01 - I'm unsure it has a glamo driver for 02) May 22 18:49:43 thanks, Speed. I wasn't too sure May 22 18:49:44 leavittx: no May 22 18:49:52 leavittx: not without a debug board May 22 18:50:04 ok, now I got it May 22 18:51:11 :) May 22 18:55:07 ahoi May 22 19:00:24 yarrrw May 22 19:34:13 i just installed OM2009 and can't ssh to it... is it normal ? May 22 19:34:55 SpeedEvil: of course u-boot has menu on gta02 May 22 19:35:14 PierreN, did you follow the instructions for setting up your host pc? May 22 19:35:31 SpeedEvil: but bootmenu should be done by small Linux+initrd image using kexec May 22 19:36:15 dos1: I don't have gta02 - so ... May 22 19:36:59 (and I find that somewhat debatable from suspend-RAM, with CPU off POV) May 22 19:38:33 badcloud: ssh works well on shr May 22 19:38:53 is usb0 configured on the fr? May 22 19:39:33 sometimes the device gets a different handle with different distros (usb0, eth2) May 22 19:39:53 run ifconfig one the host pc when the fr is connected May 22 19:40:58 *on May 22 19:41:04 yeah i can ping the device May 22 19:41:08 but can't ssh May 22 19:41:08 hmmm May 22 19:41:35 have you tried restarting /etc/init.d/dropbear on the fr? May 22 19:43:40 hu well i speaked too fast, i can't ping the device May 22 19:43:54 weird since i could when i was on shr May 22 19:44:05 and i didn't change my configuration May 22 19:44:07 which distro are you running on your host? May 22 19:44:13 debian May 22 19:44:28 lsusb gives me the device May 22 19:44:39 ip a May 22 19:44:46 what ? May 22 19:44:48 is there an ip assigned? May 22 19:44:51 type: ip a May 22 19:44:56 that's what I was gonna say May 22 19:45:09 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking#The_shortest_way May 22 19:45:27 1: lo: mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN May 22 19:45:27 link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 May 22 19:45:27 inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo May 22 19:45:27 inet6 ::1/128 scope host May 22 19:45:27 valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever May 22 19:45:39 for lo (then i got an eth0 interface) May 22 19:45:53 eth0 is probably wifi May 22 19:45:59 or ethernet May 22 19:46:09 usb0 is for your usb cable May 22 19:46:35 or if you have cdc ether loaded, it would be eth1 (or swap with eth0) May 22 19:46:42 sudo ifconfig usb0/ethn 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 May 22 19:46:51 i'm using this script in fact http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking#Debian.2C_Ubuntu_and_others May 22 19:47:04 sudo ip a a 192.168.0.200 dev ethn May 22 19:47:06 ;) May 22 19:48:04 the script is fine, just make sure that it is configuring the right device (usb0/eth2/etc) May 22 19:48:36 how to know the name of the device ? May 22 19:49:20 ifconfig May 22 19:49:51 well it just gives me eth2 and lo.... May 22 19:49:58 dmesg May 22 19:49:59 so it's probably eth2 May 22 19:50:05 but yeah, dmesg May 22 19:50:10 no eth2 is my ethernet connection... May 22 19:50:11 it'll show you the hardware device attached to ethX May 22 19:54:10 just got : May 22 19:54:12 [10055.144061] usb 5-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 27 May 22 19:54:15 [10055.349136] usb 5-2: New USB device found, idVendor=1457, idProduct=5122 May 22 19:54:18 [10055.349139] usb 5-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 May 22 19:54:21 [10055.349141] usb 5-2: Product: RNDIS/Ethernet Gadget May 22 19:54:23 [10055.349143] usb 5-2: Manufacturer: Linux 2.6.29-rc2 with s3c2410_udc May 22 19:54:26 [10055.349236] usb 5-2: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices May 22 19:54:28 [10055.357123] eth0 (cdc_ether): not using net_device_ops yet May 22 19:54:31 [10055.357787] eth0: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-0000:00:1d.0-2, CDC Ethernet Device, 00:1f:11:01:6e:9d May 22 19:54:34 [10055.360961] udev: renamed network interface eth0 to eth4 May 22 19:54:36 on dmesg, is it eth0 or eth4 then ? May 22 19:55:46 eth0 obviously May 22 19:55:54 ahh, eth4? May 22 19:55:58 renamed by udev? May 22 19:56:18 so eth4, most probably May 22 19:56:37 well i can set eth4 or eth0 in the script, that doesn't help May 22 19:56:37 wanted to update the firmware to moko11 with the uSD but when i boot from uSD there comes only an error: unable to read "uimage.bin" from mc 1:1; wrong image format for bootm command; ERROR cant get kernel image May 22 19:56:50 ferluszt: got the same error... May 22 19:56:51 ip a, look for that mac address, 00:1f:11:01:6e:9d May 22 19:57:05 and May 22 19:57:22 Blu3: eth4 May 22 19:57:29 ip a |grep -B1 00:1f:11:01:6e:9d May 22 19:58:26 rm /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules, and they won't get renamed May 22 19:58:31 there's no solution? May 22 19:58:42 your original network interface configuration should spring back to life May 22 19:59:04 Blu3: ok so it's eth4... but if i set the DEVICE variable in my shell script, i still can't ssh May 22 19:59:08 ferluszt, why via uSD? May 22 19:59:22 why not May 22 19:59:24 ip a a 192.168.0.200 dev eth4 doesn't help neither May 22 19:59:32 ip l s eth4 up May 22 19:59:52 no May 22 20:00:25 i sent bytes, but i didn't received any... May 22 20:00:40 are both ends up? May 22 20:00:52 well, I did it within shr or om May 22 20:01:02 worked pretty easily May 22 20:01:07 ferluszt: when you copied the image onto uSD, are you sure you put it onto the whole device (e.g. "/dev/sdd") and not onto a partition (e.g. "/dev/sdd1")? May 22 20:01:15 Blu3: yes May 22 20:01:36 no i used /dev/sdc1 May 22 20:01:52 badcloud: even on last OM2009 ? May 22 20:02:04 can't remember what I used May 22 20:02:30 but I did it entirely from within the fr terminal (I was bored and couldn't ssh to the device) May 22 20:03:27 ferluszt: The image needs to go onto the underlying device, because it has its own partition table. This is described on the http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing page May 22 20:03:56 i see May 22 20:06:02 ok now it works May 22 20:06:04 fine May 22 20:06:08 thanks May 22 20:06:10 badcloud: and i can't even ping my laptop on the fr... May 22 20:06:35 hum i'll just reinstall shr -_- May 22 20:15:49 PierreN, I was talking about the GSM upgrade May 22 20:16:30 Pierre, May 22 20:16:37 on FR: ifup usb0 May 22 20:16:47 on host: ifup mokoeth4 May 22 20:16:52 *eth4 May 22 20:17:03 ah May 22 20:19:11 also, run 'route' to make sure you don't have duplicate configurations May 22 20:19:36 (on the host) May 22 20:19:52 but in all honesty, give up om2009 May 22 20:19:59 why ? May 22 20:20:32 lemme see if I can find that bug on trac May 22 20:20:41 where gsm doesn't work after x hours May 22 20:21:23 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.12_Update#Known_Issues May 22 20:21:35 oh, whoops May 22 20:21:40 I must be really tired today May 22 20:22:40 ok ^^ May 22 20:23:26 what did you get with 'route'? May 22 20:26:26 well having only eth4 doesn't help May 22 20:28:05 can you pastebin 'ifconfig -a' and 'ip route show' from your host? May 22 20:30:19 well i just gave up and launched the installation of shr unstable... May 22 20:30:44 hmmm, I was curious to hear how 2009 ran May 22 20:32:56 ciao May 22 20:34:52 2009 works ok May 22 20:35:01 badcloud: that bug applies to shr iirc May 22 20:35:03 buggy May 22 20:35:16 So, in SHR, is there a way to store the GPRS settings so they don't get lost? When I put them in the settings widget, they revert back to the defaults at some point. May 22 20:35:19 as far as wiki are concerned May 22 20:35:30 (and I do have to reboot shr sometimes) May 22 20:35:41 every day May 22 20:36:13 vininim, iirc? May 22 20:36:25 if i recall correctly May 22 20:36:42 what's iirc? May 22 20:36:50 if i recall correctly May 22 20:36:53 johnsu01: i guess they get saved on successful connection. May 22 20:38:24 PaulFertser: not for me May 22 20:38:41 PaulFertser: when I disconnect, and come back to it later, they are back to the defaults. Not sure if this is with a reboot in between or not, but after some time. May 22 20:38:56 PaulFertser: Maybe this is a bug relating to my username and password being blank. May 22 20:40:30 johnsu01: probably, you need to report it to dos1 on #openmoko-cdevel or on shr trac. May 22 20:42:05 PaulFertser: Just wondering if anyone knew where I could edit the settings underneath, that might help. May 22 20:42:30 ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, vininim May 22 20:43:12 so far I'm not experiencing any gsm trouble under SHR testing May 22 20:43:32 gsm has been working very nicely for me on testing as well May 22 20:43:58 this weekend I'm hoping to look at the gsm widget though -- I'd like to make it give some indication when frameworkd gets into a state where it doesn't respond May 22 20:47:31 johnsu01: why don't you just read the source? May 22 20:49:04 PaulFertser: because someone else might already have done so and if they have and are available then I can spend my time doing something more helpful to other people? May 22 20:50:38 johnsu01: ok :) May 22 20:52:17 johnsu01: btw, there's some really hard problem with frameworkd sometimes stopping work altogether, not answering any request. It's stuck somewhere in python interpreter waiting for some futex... May 22 20:52:40 PaulFertser: Yeah.. And strangely nothing seems to notice when it gets in that state. May 22 20:53:00 johnsu01: so if you see that frameworkd doesn't react to dbus anymore try gdb attaching to it, if it waits for a futex, then something really bad is going on. May 22 20:53:07 Having some alert or indication so I know to reboot would help a lot May 22 20:53:31 and the first place to start with this seems like the signal strength meter, which should not be lying and saying that there is a connection May 22 20:54:36 johnsu01: yeah, sounds reasonable. On dbus timeout it should output some alert to allow you to restart frameworkd and ophonekitd. May 22 20:55:24 PaulFertser: Yeah, and maybe even restarts it automatically, but I'd be happy to start with if there was just an alert May 22 20:55:55 finding out that no calls have been getting through for the last few hours is a real bummer May 22 20:58:19 I see there is already http://shr-project.org/trac/ticket/198 May 22 21:04:35 heh, the gprs settings are stored in a pickle May 22 21:05:11 except said pickle file is not created May 22 21:23:36 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r8604ae19da59 10/fsodeviced/ (3 files in 2 dirs): May 22 21:23:36 freesmartphone.org: fsodevice: alsa_audio: play a sound May 22 21:23:36 freesmartphone.org: NOTE: We now require libcanberra May 22 21:45:14 * xglurb em_ May 22 21:46:01 @DocScrutinizer: I would like to thank you for your work on extracting netlist/gerber files and pushing them online May 22 21:47:20 @DocScrutinizer: interstingly, the IBMv2 benchmarks files, for VLSI routers, matches the repartition of GTA02 (as I was suspecting). So, this is _great_ news for me ! May 22 22:21:49 <|if3> :( May 22 22:21:58 <|if3> anyone here use arch? May 22 22:40:02 <|if3> nvm, got it after like an hour and a half, lol May 22 22:46:46 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r93f992d89208 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.xml: add no container flag May 22 22:49:27 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07vala-dbus-binding-tool * rf3851a6776ce 10/autogen.sh: use standard autogen.sh May 22 22:50:39 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libfso-glib * r439f67c97f9c 10/src/ (4 files): refresh May 22 23:29:46 freesmartphone.org: 03alain2210 07framework * r31cdabfe04bd 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/freescale_neptune/mediator.py: ogsmd: [FREESCALE NEPTUNE] fix GetAuthStatus for modems which do not support +CPIN? May 22 23:29:47 freesmartphone.org: 03alain2210 07framework * r5d6d328a4da1 10/framework/subsystems/oeventsd/ (fso_actions.py fso_triggers.py): oeventsd: add KeypadEvent trigger to fso_triggers, add Shutdown action to fso_actions May 22 23:44:29 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * rae1ec16a1d85 10/framework/subsystems/odeviced/audio.py: odeviced: audio.py: fix sending dbus signals for AlsaPlayer. Thanks Toaster for spotting. May 23 00:03:40 Hi all, I am currently upgrading my GPS on my freerunner, and is trying to unmount my card partitions, but something is preventing me from unmounting my first partition. The only file there is qtopia_db.sqllite, can anyone help May 23 00:03:56 daramarak: upgrading gps? May 23 00:04:08 firmware May 23 00:04:16 daramarak: ah, is that possible now? May 23 00:04:25 no sorry May 23 00:04:38 i meant gsm May 23 00:04:56 daramarak: lsof May 23 00:05:13 <|if3> lol May 23 00:05:13 not found... May 23 00:05:32 I am running 2008.8 currently May 23 00:06:01 daramarak: no idea, lsof is a standard tool May 23 00:07:30 lindi-: yes I thought that too. May 23 00:08:54 daramarak: get a distro you know how to use :) May 23 00:10:01 I am about to get the newest 2009 running, but the wiki told me to upgrade the gps first. So that is what I am trying to do. May 23 00:11:04 daramarak: i think wiki actually recommends using some special distro for it May 23 00:11:45 There is an image that you transfer to the sd card, IIRC -- it will do the upgrade for you, and is set up so that there is a minimal chance of problem. May 23 00:12:33 mwester: I know, my problem is when I try to unmount the card to use dd for transfering this image. May 23 00:13:10 mwester: I have the file on my FR, and I am going to unzip it directly onto card. (I have no cardreader for the card) May 23 00:13:28 :( May 23 00:14:16 forcibly unmount the sd card, if you can. If you can't then you'll have to flash a less-troublesome distro (SHR for example) to the NAND flash, and boot from that. May 23 00:15:18 IIRC, the qtopia software on the OM distros manages a directory on the card, and you'll have to pretty much kill all the processes on the phone to make it stop. May 23 00:16:16 mwester: If I only would knew which processes this was I would kill them. May 23 00:16:27 kill them all May 23 00:16:35 mwester: I could ofcourse kill qt* May 23 00:16:59 You only need dropbear and your login shell running -- everything else (including the X processes) shoiuld be destroyed. May 23 00:26:17 mwester: Killing qpe was enough... May 23 00:28:48 Does anyone know if FSO runs python 2.6? May 23 00:29:59 I am using tkinter for an application, any my application looks so much better with the anti-aliased fonts on the new tkinter. May 23 00:36:14 ... May 23 00:36:19 You're insane. May 23 00:36:24 anti-aliased fonts. May 23 00:36:30 On a 285dpi display. May 23 00:37:13 SpeedEvil: No, you do not understand. I use very large fonts. They were blocky. May 23 00:37:38 oh - right - that's just a font problem then May 23 00:38:28 SpeedEvil: Black on white, and tkinter doesn't seem to scale fonts nicely. May 23 00:38:47 or didn't I should say May 23 00:40:21 fair enough - I was assuming you meant antialiasing on the display - not on scaling fonts - which makes sense. May 23 00:40:54 As I personally can't really resolve individual dots well unless the phone is unusually close May 23 00:41:34 Yeah, I wish everything on the FR was as good as the display. May 23 00:42:09 Like a GPU that actually could it for instance. May 23 00:43:02 I mean - it can actually display 80*25 xterm - with room to spare May 23 00:43:08 and is actually readable. May 23 00:43:15 Admittedly only at 20cm, but still May 23 00:43:53 My flashing of my GSM failed I think, screen went dark after some blue text... May 23 00:44:19 * SpeedEvil has not flashed GSM yert May 23 00:45:16 Oh, wait. It was only suspending. Got a green done now :) May 23 00:48:14 Is there any good reason not to use QI? May 23 01:05:21 <|if3_> how do I get wifi up? May 23 01:05:46 <|if3_> so weird, I only get like 12% up here, but even when im sitting right next to the AP; i can't connect. May 23 01:06:20 <|if3_> i obviously know what my pwd is, and I've entered my MAC in my AP's 'acceptable list' May 23 01:06:25 <|if3_> still won't connect :o May 23 01:10:58 good night May 23 01:49:41 <|if3_> how do I install libs without using wifi? May 23 01:49:55 * |if3_ attempts to find repos May 23 01:51:30 <|if3_> found them, but they don't contain the damn package i need :o May 23 02:03:17 hi May 23 02:54:34 http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/experimental/armv4t/ May 23 02:55:27 http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk/armv4t/ May 23 02:56:43 which pkg do ya need? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat May 23 02:59:57 2009