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Sep 27 06:06:02 <root_demon> hello openmoko people
Sep 27 06:07:09 <root_demon> so, I bought a freerunner and received it earlier today.  I have a 'why would you wanna do that" kind of question. mind if I bother someone? :-)
Sep 27 06:08:20 <ndnihil> ask away
Sep 27 06:10:46 <root_demon> so I'm on an epic adventure to flash nand wish the SHR distro. my only 'puter unfortunately has unusable usb ports at the moment. I managed to install SHR onto an SD card via openmoko itself. the only docs I've found on flashing tell me to use dfu-utils, but i was wondering if writing the kernel/image to the appropriate partitions while running off of the SD card would be sufficient.
Sep 27 06:12:28 <lindi-> root_demon: dfu-util just talks to u-boot that writes the data to nand
Sep 27 06:12:53 <lindi-> root_demon: you can use flash_eraseall && nandwrite to do the same
Sep 27 06:13:38 <root_demon> oh. did I misread the wiki? 
Sep 27 06:13:49 <root_demon> awesome. I'll go back to wiki digging. thanks. :-)
Sep 27 08:46:29 <PBeck> hi
Sep 27 09:46:07 <azaghal> Hm... Where in the world would the WiFi settings be on Qt Extended?
Sep 27 09:49:05 <azaghal> Finally found it...
Sep 27 10:14:47 <DocMobilizer> ok, let's provoke another grand mal by 'long' phonecall
Sep 27 10:17:02 <azaghal> Mal?
Sep 27 10:18:20 <DocMobilizer> ~botsnack
Sep 27 10:18:20 <apt> thanks, DocMobilizer
Sep 27 10:19:38 <DocMobilizer> tzz, well... mickey told sth about a 1/3 statitical chance
Sep 27 10:21:49 <joerg_42> azaghal: grand mal (French., med.): contrary of "petit mal", sth like a massive stroke
Sep 27 10:22:15 <azaghal> Hm... mal means bad. As in "Ca va mal".
Sep 27 10:22:19 <azaghal> I guess it's a phrase :)
Sep 27 10:22:41 <azaghal> Whom are you trying to get a stroke? Balmer? ;)
Sep 27 10:24:58 <joerg_42> azaghal: FR tends to freeze (framework) on GPRS special conditions like timeout, disconnect...
Sep 27 10:25:15 <azaghal> Hm... Just the framework, not the kernel?
Sep 27 10:26:22 <joerg_42> yep
Sep 27 10:27:01 <joerg_42> pppd to be precise, or frameworkd on pppd termination
Sep 27 10:30:18 <lindi-> i use watchdog that restarts ogsmd
Sep 27 10:31:14 <joerg_42> lindi-: for me it seems killall -9 frameworkd is also needed
Sep 27 10:31:34 <joerg_42> so a full reboot is somewhat easier :-/
Sep 27 10:32:08 <lindi-> joawell i do not run anything else from frameworkd than ogsmd
Sep 27 10:32:43 <lindi-> joerg_42: reboot is not an option :)
Sep 27 10:33:06 <joerg_42> freeze is not an option ;-P
Sep 27 10:33:29 <lindi-> nothing freezes here
Sep 27 10:33:48 <lindi-> gsm stuff just takes a minute to restart
Sep 27 10:34:13 <joerg_42> hmm, strange. I see it 80% of all GPRS disconnects
Sep 27 10:34:13 <lindi-> and generates a nice log entry about the incident
Sep 27 10:34:33 <lindi-> different version probably
Sep 27 10:34:55 <DocMobilizer> let's force it then
Sep 27 10:36:07 <joerg_42> typical :-/ no issue on disconnect
Sep 27 10:44:06 <azaghal> Now to figure out how to add an application to Qt Extended menus...
Sep 27 10:44:30 <joerg_42> hmm, even the wget went thru without major issues
Sep 27 10:46:01 <joerg_42> PaulFertser: maybe a diff for niebiee.edj vs *.orig?
Sep 27 10:46:58 <joerg_42> PaulFertser: with at least 5 lines +/- context ;-)
Sep 27 14:27:51 <pabs3> SHR unstable seems like it hasn't seen any updates for a week, anyone know whats up? also fso is broken in the latest update: http://pastebin.ca/1581429 
Sep 27 14:30:43 <Q-Master> pabs3: moving to xorg
Sep 27 14:31:11 <pabs3> hm?
Sep 27 14:34:44 <der-lehmann> < hoping for some improvements!
Sep 27 14:35:27 <dns53> as long as we don't have the white screen of death introduced again i'll be happy
Sep 27 14:36:12 <der-lehmann> or the black on 
Sep 27 14:36:14 <pabs3> I still experience WSOD on resume
Sep 27 14:46:05 <Q-Master> and /me has a black one
Sep 27 14:50:56 <der-lehmann> i dont now wha but ive got never a SOD!
Sep 27 14:51:06 <der-lehmann> a-y
Sep 27 14:53:08 <pabs3> warm climates FTW
Sep 27 14:54:24 <der-lehmann> where r u from?
Sep 27 14:55:37 <pabs3> somewhere not warm enough to prevent a WSOD :(
Sep 27 14:57:43 <der-lehmann> hmm australia is not warm enough?
Sep 27 14:58:07 <pabs3> apparently
Sep 27 14:59:09 <der-lehmann> iam from germany and if got no problems 
Sep 27 16:33:29 <d1b> somet something australia?
Sep 27 16:33:40 <d1b> ah scrolled way to far up
Sep 27 16:35:13 <MadTBone> anyone know of someone in the New York area that can do a buzz fix? 
Sep 27 16:39:59 <Zorkman> MadTBone: try the mailinglist?
Sep 27 16:40:18 <MadTBone> will do
Sep 27 17:08:50 <CIA-44> freesmartphone.org: 03g.anciaux 07dos/opimd-tracking * ra24cdd8dd6e9 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimb_vcard_contacts.py: 
Sep 27 17:08:50 <CIA-44> freesmartphone.org: opimd: VCard-Contacts: fix storing vcard entries
Sep 27 17:08:50 <CIA-44> freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Sebastian Krzyszkowiak <seba.dos1@gmail.com>
Sep 27 20:08:52 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer: of course i can provide a diff. Just that it's not useful enough. The method i used is too crude ;)
Sep 27 20:18:12 <objorn> anyone used asterisk with your freerunner?
Sep 27 20:59:26 <DocScrutinizer> PaulFertser: so I need to install niebiee to get that kbd :-/
Sep 27 21:00:14 <DocScrutinizer> PaulFertser: well, forget it. Will move to the attik anyway in a few weeks
Sep 27 22:18:19 <spydon> http://www.euopeninternet.eu/
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