**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Oct 25 02:59:56 2009 Oct 25 07:27:34 http://action.metaffiliation.com/suivi.php?mclic=S42665516A5D131 Oct 25 08:02:52 hi Oct 25 08:03:27 does anybody know if the last shr unstable is usable or if I should pick an older one ? Oct 25 08:05:34 shr-full-glibc-ipk--20090906-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 is this one fine please ? Oct 25 08:07:22 (i mean is the topic still true ?( Oct 25 08:07:26 ) Oct 25 08:15:35 http://action.metaffiliation.com/suivi.php?mclic=S42665516A5D131 Oct 25 08:19:16 sometimes I dream that I am my freerunner. making things more difficult for my user, simply to pass the time until the inevitable chuck against the brick wall outside of the house. Oct 25 08:20:05 i wake in a cold sweat, only to see my freerunner sitting on the table next to my bed, a cold sinister expression on its face, as if it was having the same dream, but as the role of myself. Oct 25 08:21:15 sometimes I dream that I'm in a tub full of lard with the hot twins down the street Oct 25 08:21:23 not freerunner related Oct 25 08:21:26 just saying Oct 25 08:22:27 ndnihil: may the gods have mercy on your tormented soul. Oct 25 08:22:57 had they any mercy, I would be in that tub, with that lard, with those twins Oct 25 08:23:27 opensource truly works in mysterious ways. Oct 25 08:24:04 any with that, I have another hit on my crack pipe to take, before returning to the Chamber of Debug. Oct 25 08:26:43 * md2k7|away wonders about the life and attitude of some people Oct 25 08:28:18 md2: yeah tell me about it. crack is so 90's Oct 25 08:28:53 I'm a fan of the classics. Oct 25 08:29:05 take mescaline Oct 25 08:29:45 can't get much more classic than that, except perhaps weed, but I'm pretty sure 90% of the population of the planet smokes that already Oct 25 08:30:45 suggestion noted. I'll probably go with katamine. the dog seems to like it, and he's been on my case lately about us not having much quantity time together. Oct 25 08:52:12 * Kamping_Kaiser grins Oct 25 09:55:41 sometimes. Oct 25 09:56:04 I smell the inside of the case while the phone is on. Oct 25 09:56:28 breathe in the essence as I would a woman's scent. Oct 25 12:33:17 hi, what should I do when freerunner battery is totally empty, and I don't have any compatible phone around here Oct 25 12:34:02 hmmh no idea Oct 25 12:34:46 get the wall charger? Oct 25 12:38:38 usb cable? Oct 25 12:39:42 Tm_T: try pluging it to usb... Oct 25 12:39:58 Tm_T, remove battery, and try boot without it Oct 25 12:41:24 soltys: it really is empty so that didn't do the trick (: Oct 25 12:41:27 max_posedon: will try Oct 25 12:42:16 Tm_T: my FR boots with empty battery after connecting it to usb... Oct 25 12:42:43 1. remove battery, 2. press aux, 3. insert power 4. wait 1-2 sec 5. only now release aux Oct 25 12:43:12 may be even 5. press power 6. release aux and power Oct 25 12:43:14 mine FR also boots without battery Oct 25 12:43:53 nothing (:) Oct 25 12:44:21 try holding AUX while booting Oct 25 12:44:27 trying Oct 25 12:45:14 yup, no signs of live Oct 25 12:46:01 There are cheap USB phone battery chargers Oct 25 12:46:23 that have two prongs, and auto-switch polarity depending on which wya you connect them to the battery Oct 25 12:46:36 won't help me right now though Oct 25 12:46:47 no Oct 25 12:46:56 bhhh, shouldn't leave battery empty for months Oct 25 12:46:56 I assume you don't have a DMM and a lab psu? Oct 25 12:47:08 soltys: nope, not right here Oct 25 12:49:56 Tm_T: no idea then Oct 25 13:37:38 hi, having recently moved to london i've started to notice that some texts i send from my FR (latest SHR-U) don't get through to the recipients (maybe overcrowded cell?) is there a way to check when this happens or an sms app which can handle retrying when this happens? Oct 25 14:46:50 my samsung p2 media player was stolen yesterday along with my pair of etymotics earphones. i will most likely have to buy a nokia n900 to replace it. Oct 25 14:48:08 :? Oct 25 14:48:32 We don't have a delivery time - sometime mid-nov is looking plausible Oct 25 14:51:38 it will be hard to live without music for one month Oct 25 14:57:19 well - your most basic player is very cheap Oct 25 14:57:29 and even a couple of gig is plenty in the short term Oct 25 14:59:24 i don't want a cheap basic player, i'm very angry having my samsung p2 stolen it's not available in canada anymore even the p3 isn't anymore. Oct 25 15:00:00 <[Rui]> uhsf: those models which play ogg? Oct 25 15:00:12 uhsf: I mean as a fill-in for a month Oct 25 15:00:29 <[Rui]> uhsf: were you mugged or just left them unattended for enough time? Oct 25 15:00:33 the freerunner isn't good enough for a media player mostly because it has no 3.5mm jack Oct 25 15:00:42 <[Rui]> uhsf: yeah :( Oct 25 15:01:48 yea p2 and p3 played ogg and flac i don't know if there is such good player anymore on the market Oct 25 15:13:34 hi there.. I am thinking on buying a Freerunner.. I like the project's idea but first I got a few questions. how long does the battery last when the phone isn't in active use and when it is? (SMSing, Phoning, PIM, Emails, Wifi) Oct 25 15:13:54 vargadanis: it isn't useful as an every day phone Oct 25 15:14:08 wut? O_o Oct 25 15:14:18 battey is ok. smsing is ok phoning is a pita, pim is okish, emails fine, wifi is ok but can be flakey Oct 25 15:14:26 but if you want you can buy one off me :) Oct 25 15:15:31 we can talk about it later :) once I am convinced that I won't be let down by it when i try to add a new contact to my contacts list Oct 25 15:15:32 Some people use it as a phone everyday Oct 25 15:15:39 yup Oct 25 15:15:40 and find it ouseful. Oct 25 15:15:58 some do -> like me :) Oct 25 15:16:07 but i would prefer one that didn't discharge and stuff Oct 25 15:16:16 (when in the charger) Oct 25 15:16:17 a hackers dream machine Oct 25 15:16:41 <_Andrew> can you make phone calls on it yet? Oct 25 15:16:47 yup Oct 25 15:16:48 slaxxer: certainly but not great a phone. :) _Andrew rofl Oct 25 15:16:55 _Andrew: of course :) Oct 25 15:17:13 what do you mean by not a great phone? Oct 25 15:17:33 vargadanis: there are no hardware buttons to adjust the volume and stuff Oct 25 15:17:34 iguess. Oct 25 15:17:36 its ok Oct 25 15:18:04 ohh those things are not worring my if all those things can be adjusted through the touchscreen Oct 25 15:18:06 it just needs to be FINISHED Oct 25 15:18:21 vargadanis: it isn't that easy atm to do that. Oct 25 15:18:22 FINISH IT Oct 25 15:18:31 all I need to know if I will be able to call my workplace that I'd rather stay home and hack my little phone :) Oct 25 15:18:36 slaxxer: maybe ;) Oct 25 15:18:52 vargadanis: its a great pda tho :) Oct 25 15:18:57 vargadis yes certainly Oct 25 15:19:04 well I could write a small gadget for the 'desktop' that can do the volume adjustments Oct 25 15:19:14 please do Oct 25 15:19:18 vargadanis: some have but the alsa states are lots of fun :) Oct 25 15:19:19 :) Oct 25 15:19:28 slaxxer: there is such an app i saw from the wik irecently Oct 25 15:19:32 ohh it uses alsa :) even better Oct 25 15:19:33 haven't tried it yet Oct 25 15:19:44 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications Oct 25 15:20:02 which distro is the most usable for everyday usage? I saw SHR seems to be OK Oct 25 15:20:04 slaxxer: i think the shr guys are trying to add it atm Oct 25 15:20:09 vargadanis: SHR :) Oct 25 15:20:20 http://www.opkg.org/packages.htm Oct 25 15:21:14 alright :) BT is working ok? So I am not gonna have trouble with transfering some files through BT? Oct 25 15:21:18 they need to finish because the longer we mess around the less chance the gta02-core will make it Oct 25 15:21:28 slaxxer: http://handheldshell.com/pymixer.py Oct 25 15:21:38 slaxxer: m? Oct 25 15:21:55 gta02-core ? Oct 25 15:22:19 yea the next great success Oct 25 15:22:24 slaxxer: .... Oct 25 15:22:27 orly Oct 25 15:22:38 d1b, you said something about selling me one... for how much and where you'd send it from? it is new? used? Battery? Oct 25 15:23:13 would u like to have a replacement motherboard for your freerunner like me? Oct 25 15:23:14 battery needs a new one probably, im in australia, not that knew got it when frs were first out Oct 25 15:23:26 new* Oct 25 15:23:34 bath tired :) Oct 25 15:23:37 bah* Oct 25 15:23:41 with a 3.5 mm plug an a better gsm? Oct 25 15:24:29 slaxxer: ? Oct 25 15:24:36 gsm 800 foo i think Oct 25 15:24:41 dont' remember :) Oct 25 15:25:17 possibly shipping from australia to here would be a lotta money Oct 25 15:25:24 here = Hungary (EU) Oct 25 15:25:31 maybe :) Oct 25 15:25:33 no idea. Oct 25 15:25:48 your euro istronger than our $AUD Oct 25 15:27:14 maybe 154EUR Oct 25 15:27:19 not sure about shipping. Oct 25 15:27:50 any good ideas how to re-start freerunner with empty battery? Oct 25 15:27:59 Tuju: wiki has a list Oct 25 15:28:17 u have a wall charger? Oct 25 15:28:39 TUju? Oct 25 15:29:16 a tomtom one car charger also works Oct 25 15:29:28 slaxxer: i do Oct 25 15:29:32 slaxxer: tomtoms are fun to hack :) Oct 25 15:29:35 but i think it's usb one too. Oct 25 15:29:45 press an hold aux button then press power Oct 25 15:30:02 slaxxer: does it matter with what charger? Oct 25 15:30:20 hold both for 3 seconds Oct 25 15:30:54 well it needs more than the 100ma that the usb provides Oct 25 15:31:18 ah, ack. i dig the wall-one from package. Oct 25 15:31:36 u have no wall charger? Oct 25 15:31:45 ok Oct 25 15:32:26 well did it work? Oct 25 15:32:56 yep :) Oct 25 15:33:01 i'm happy again :) Oct 25 15:33:02 * d1b likesthe moko but wishes the volume had a gui to alter it more so than currently -> during in call :) Oct 25 15:33:04 what can be done with a tomtom? Oct 25 15:33:08 slaxxer: :) Oct 25 15:33:19 http://www.opentom.org/Main_Page Oct 25 15:33:22 run xorg ;) Oct 25 15:33:26 well not xorg Oct 25 15:33:28 but x11 Oct 25 15:33:36 screenshot? Oct 25 15:33:38 d1b: this should be part of the upcoming shr phoneui stack Oct 25 15:33:39 now next the latest SHR images.... Oct 25 15:33:48 bumbl: i am aware of that. Oct 25 15:33:50 Tuju: oh really... Oct 25 15:33:54 where.... Oct 25 15:34:00 use the sept 06 unstable Oct 25 15:34:41 http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/?C=M;O=D Oct 25 15:34:54 slaxxer: no i meantthe volume stuff... Oct 25 15:35:03 oo Oct 25 15:35:22 slaxxer: can't find one atm Oct 25 15:35:25 prolly this week we will get a new image Oct 25 15:35:26 (x11 on the tomtom) Oct 25 15:35:30 but it does work. Oct 25 15:35:35 :) Oct 25 15:35:48 found it Oct 25 15:35:49 http://www.opentom.org/TTconsole Oct 25 15:35:54 as a linux machine? Oct 25 15:35:56 slaxxer: which files i need? Oct 25 15:35:57 well that's part of it Oct 25 15:36:11 there are quite many for sep 06 Oct 25 15:36:36 Tuju: no idea i just used the ful one Oct 25 15:36:42 full* Oct 25 15:36:47 full glibc .jffs2 =rootfs Oct 25 15:37:14 uimage.bin for kernel Oct 25 15:37:20 vargadanis: if your interested maybe pm me at some point. i do like the phone atm tho :) Oct 25 15:37:30 http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/shr-full-glibc-ipk--20090906-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 this one? Oct 25 15:37:37 yup Oct 25 15:37:48 rootfs Oct 25 15:38:01 * d1b is trying to get a teh evil androidz Oct 25 15:38:11 d1b, that price is too high and I'd prefer a new one... it's possible to get a new for 180EUR so I think i'll go with that Oct 25 15:38:15 ok. Oct 25 15:38:22 and I am not quite convinced that openmoko is what i am looking for Oct 25 15:38:24 oh orly ? only 180EUR Oct 25 15:38:36 not bad. Oct 25 15:38:42 http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/uImage-2.6.29-oe10+gitr119805+f656a97d946a2529630c9770a72c10a24dc397f9-r3.4-om-gta02.bin this one? Oct 25 15:39:52 d1b step away from the android Oct 25 15:40:19 slaxxer: it looks ok but the e17 keyboard is unmatchable atm Oct 25 15:40:22 :) Oct 25 15:40:24 i used the newer kernel Oct 25 15:41:20 i had a time removing android it was something like "Hotel California" Oct 25 15:41:40 thouse could be dated with %Y-%M-%D so that listings would be cronical. Oct 25 15:41:43 slaxxer: only takes a short time :) Oct 25 15:41:48 it did work though Oct 25 15:41:53 slaxxer: that's my routers name ;) Oct 25 15:42:03 :) Oct 25 15:42:30 slaxxer: do i need modules file? Oct 25 15:42:58 no Oct 25 15:43:08 ack. Oct 25 15:43:49 be sure to reboot a couple of times Oct 25 15:44:02 slaxxer: you were helpful and that i saved a lot of time because of that, thanks a lot. :) (doesn't happen too many times these days) Oct 25 15:44:16 many welcomes Oct 25 15:44:33 slaxxer: i'll do... just need to charge a bit before i start upgrading... Oct 25 15:44:38 we are here to help eachother:) Oct 25 15:45:16 yup, that's what the community is all about. Oct 25 15:46:11 now if we can just work in parallel instead of series Oct 25 15:46:27 things will go better/faster Oct 25 15:47:10 slaxxer: the continued android project is actually fairly good Oct 25 15:47:21 just the keyboard fails Oct 25 15:47:28 i knoy it does work Oct 25 15:47:37 hm..I'm just trying the gtk theme from om2007 on gentoo and its just perfect.. Gotta compliment to whoever did it :) Oct 25 15:48:10 yea an then they quit Oct 25 15:48:43 slaxxer: btw om2007 was finished :) Oct 25 15:48:45 that did work Oct 25 15:48:51 volume up / down in call etc. Oct 25 15:49:35 qtopia isn't the worst for phone usability either :) Oct 25 15:49:52 jc_: its not that bad but it doesn't have in call up / down Oct 25 15:50:06 as far as i know :) Oct 25 15:50:41 d1b, you had a settings screen for that afaik... Oct 25 15:51:00 hey, can i upgrade with low battery? Oct 25 15:51:16 i assume it won't charge during it but will use USB juice anyway. Oct 25 15:51:20 as opposed to shr apps where even ringrones don't work... Oct 25 15:52:15 freerunner has damn sharp display. Oct 25 15:52:46 Tuju, you can do pretty much anything without battery except have gsm turned on.. Oct 25 15:53:42 i don't like the freerunner touchscreen feedback it's so slow to react after touching the screen Oct 25 15:54:23 uhsf, thats not the touchscreens fault :) Oct 25 15:54:33 yea well maybe things will be in c++ before too much longer Oct 25 15:54:49 jc_: ack, i just started upgrading. kernel went already. Oct 25 15:54:49 slaxxer: c++ ... Oct 25 15:54:50 i must be processor fault then. Oct 25 15:55:12 use the wall charger for 30 minuite then flash Oct 25 15:55:44 uhsf, mostly glamo and gtk.. Oct 25 15:55:48 puuuh, this rootfs is going to take time. Oct 25 15:55:52 glamo is fail :) Oct 25 15:56:00 25 minuite Oct 25 15:56:34 thats why we need gta02-core to produce another motherboard Oct 25 15:56:41 glamo Oct 25 15:57:08 slaxxer: from what i just read the gt02-core isn't a phone Oct 25 15:57:13 gta* Oct 25 15:57:27 toaster? Oct 25 15:57:37 max_posedon: dont' joke ;) Oct 25 15:57:52 I wonder if you will be able to trade core for normal gta_02 Oct 25 15:58:02 http://www.embeddedarm.com/software/arm-netbsd-toaster.php Oct 25 16:00:36 how is the PIM side going on in SHR? Oct 25 16:00:53 is there a decided storage technogoly already? Oct 25 16:01:33 i hope sqlite... :) Oct 25 16:01:57 yup, i was thinking about exposing them for syncing via syncml and obex Oct 25 16:04:20 oh well.. looks like xchat is pretty usable with om gtk theme.. I'm off.. Oct 25 16:04:31 bye :) Oct 25 16:15:44 hmmm....it hangs to that "Starting kernel ...." Oct 25 16:15:48 i've tried few times already. Oct 25 16:24:13 it even says that checksums are okay. Oct 25 16:24:29 slaxxer: which kernel you've? Oct 25 16:30:15 the person who stole my media player yesterday is gonna be pissed off because it needs a special cable to recharge it and it not sold anywhere. Oct 25 16:30:45 uhsf: how did that happen? Oct 25 16:31:31 my vest was stolen in my friend's car Oct 25 16:32:13 windows broken? Oct 25 16:32:18 i had nice etymotics earphones with that (300$) Oct 25 16:32:33 no, a door probably wasn't locked Oct 25 16:32:37 ah Oct 25 16:32:41 that sucks Oct 25 16:33:41 it might help if half of the li-ion batteries would be semtex and would detonate with too many wrong pin-codes. Oct 25 16:34:20 some claim that li-ion battries are dangerous as such anyway if charged with wrong alcorithm. Oct 25 16:34:56 yea i wish it blows out in that jerk's face Oct 25 16:35:24 you could make 'instructions' of that cable into net :) Oct 25 16:36:14 i had some VHF and camera that got stolen couple years ago. that sucked long time. Oct 25 16:36:48 i usually think i'm not materialist but when i lose something like that with all good 16GB playlists and files i really feel dispossessed or something Oct 25 16:37:19 then you start thinking getting a new type of material, 9mm and so.... :) Oct 25 16:37:21 i will really miss my music when walking to school Oct 25 16:38:18 uImage-2.6.29-oe11+gitr119844+a3587e4ed77974adfb057af261aaeea4022018e8-r3.5-om-gta02.bin Oct 25 16:38:37 backup... Oct 25 16:38:47 should i? Oct 25 16:39:02 ->uhsf Oct 25 16:39:05 oo Oct 25 16:39:07 :) Oct 25 16:39:16 hi guys Oct 25 16:39:27 off todo some real work Oct 25 16:39:43 can someone tell me what the Sampling rate of the freerunner is? Oct 25 16:39:51 ->? Oct 25 16:40:51 I am getting this message from android W/AudioHardwareInterface( 842): getInputBufferSize bad sampling rate: 11025 Oct 25 16:40:54 slaxxer: thanks, downloading.... Oct 25 16:41:05 therefore I think that this sampking rate of 11025 is wrong Oct 25 16:41:15 maybe the hw does not support it. Oct 25 16:41:43 slaxxer: it boots. Oct 25 17:08:22 well, i guess half hour has passed and still haven't seen the desktop. Oct 25 17:08:22 did anyone in EU order from Pluster? they offer Freerunner for 200 Euro Oct 25 17:09:45 I think they stopped Oct 25 17:09:50 but maybe they have some left Oct 25 17:09:58 they were certainly supplying at on epoint Oct 25 17:10:04 i ordered 10 frunners back then from him and he scammed me. Oct 25 17:10:13 i would not do any business with that idiot. Oct 25 17:10:23 you lost money? Oct 25 17:10:30 eventually got it back. Oct 25 17:10:54 hehh... that's what i have thought Oct 25 17:11:02 but he promised me a batch to get my order in and l paid him 1000 or so euros to confirm it. Oct 25 17:11:15 it's so frustrating to have something stolen Oct 25 17:11:35 later when he received my money, he let me know that "thanks for downpayment, i ship you later when i first ship others." Oct 25 17:12:38 i ordered my FR from pulster in July 2008, got a mail "will take some weeks"... about a week later it was here :) Oct 25 17:12:39 TriSoft in other hand worked as promised, i was very pleased to them. Oct 25 17:13:06 pulster is one guy in garage. Trisoft is a company. Oct 25 17:13:32 high Oct 25 17:15:22 ok Oct 25 17:15:27 thanx for the tips Oct 25 17:16:19 vargadanis: i heard some shit about this guy from others too when had those problems with him. so it wasn't just my case. Oct 25 17:18:01 ahm are US and EU openmokos compatible? I mean the frequencies they use Oct 25 17:18:40 no Oct 25 17:19:06 Or rather - the 900 or the 850 band won't work in the EU, or in the US if you get the wrong one Oct 25 17:20:08 are they still selling from stock they manufactured back then? Oct 25 17:20:30 i understood that production has seized. Oct 25 17:21:01 ok, so in EU I need the 900 one, right? Oct 25 17:21:51 yup Oct 25 17:22:23 Tuju: I understand production to be ongoing, on an as-needed basis. Oct 25 17:24:31 question.. if I order from openmoko.com it's most likely to arrive to me, right? I understand they are shipping from the US Oct 25 17:24:41 SpeedEvil: ah, that's interesting. Oct 25 17:24:53 luckily I have an option to pick which version to buy, either the 850 or the 900 versions Oct 25 17:26:23 that sucker wont boot. Oct 25 17:26:56 vargadanis: buy the n900. Oct 25 17:32:39 If i want to play around with a wifi dongle on my OpenMoko, witch distro should i install? Debian? Oct 25 17:33:36 i guess SHR has only drivers for the build in Wifi? Oct 25 17:34:14 soon we will see the distro war here as well Oct 25 17:40:03 where i can find instructions for problem that kernel does not boot? Oct 25 17:42:58 do you get any errors of some sort? Oct 25 17:43:18 no, it just tries to start booting and does nothing. Oct 25 17:43:54 Tuju: flash a new one :) Oct 25 17:44:02 d1b: i just did. Oct 25 17:44:10 ehh that's not a solution maybe a workaround Oct 25 17:44:13 it can't be so that for every boot i need to reflash. Oct 25 17:44:13 nfi :) Oct 25 17:44:20 Tuju: probably not Oct 25 18:00:01 now it booted when i did reflash. Oct 25 18:00:27 nice to see that SHR is full of incomplete software :) Oct 25 18:03:55 i'd be happy to continue using shr but it just doesn't offer much to me so i will go with maemo for some time Oct 25 18:06:33 uhsf: on the neo? Oct 25 18:09:36 i use shr on my fr but i decided i will buy a n900 when it comes out Oct 25 18:10:01 fr can't serve me as media player Oct 25 18:11:15 ah ok Oct 25 18:13:19 hmm yeah - i'd like to buy a palm pixi or a motorola droid (not free but better than symbian) whatever comes out first here Oct 25 18:14:03 Why first - when you're going to own it for a lot longer than a month. Oct 25 18:14:16 n900 != symbian Oct 25 18:14:37 SpeedEvil: i know Oct 25 18:16:32 but i am not convinced that the n900 is that good - i have had too many issues with older nokia phones -- because i need a phone replacement for the neo as soon as possible Oct 25 18:16:54 how do i disable message notifier which always pops up whenever i started some application on Hackable 1 Oct 25 18:25:59 bumbl: software issues are completly irrelevnat - this is not a nokia phone - no other phone is based on linux fro nokia Oct 25 18:26:08 meh Oct 25 18:27:43 * CVirus is buying an N900 too Oct 25 18:28:12 how can you not be convinced the n900 is that good? Oct 25 18:31:40 n900 is clearly the best phone ever for everyone who can make an unbiased jugment between current offerings in this late 2009. Oct 25 18:32:14 i'm latest SHR testing and my battery charge is down to 77% and battery/status shows "Not charging" Oct 25 18:32:44 while connected to usb. Is there some reason it isn't charging? Oct 25 18:33:58 and the blue LED is on showing charged. so what gets charging again? Oct 25 18:34:39 uhsf, SpeedEvil: that were not only software but also some hardware issues (e.g. cover breaking after a month, device not working after some couple of months,...) Oct 25 18:35:00 else58: there was a problem regarding "virtual" batteries once, maybe you're suffering from that, dunno if it's generally fixed somehow... check e17's battery settings Oct 25 18:40:34 else58: wait until it drops to 76%. It'll start to charge then Oct 25 18:40:49 else58: maybe 75% Oct 25 18:42:11 else58: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Battery_Questions_and_Answers#My_battery_charges_to_100.25_but_then_charging_stops_and_the_battery_keeps_discharging.2C_wtf.3F Oct 25 18:42:14 can anybody paste here the contents of /etc/frameworkd.conf ..since i m using Hackable 1 Oct 25 18:45:53 DocScrutinizer: thanks. I guess the new colors made the battery monitor easier for me to notice it Oct 25 18:47:24 hi DocScrutinizer could u paste here the contents of /etc/frameworkd.conf Oct 25 18:47:36 else58: (latest testing) please read #chan topic! Oct 25 18:47:52 Tanuva: the e17 battery monitor has a Hardware setting panel with "Auto Detect, Internal, or HAL" buttons. Auto is checked Oct 25 18:48:26 http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=blob;f=conf/example/frameworkd.conf Oct 25 18:49:01 DocScrutinizer: are you saying my q was better asked in cdevel? Oct 25 18:49:03 thanx DocScrutinizer Oct 25 18:49:05 else58: forget this hal auto bla setting for now Oct 25 18:50:04 else58: it's only the cause when your bat never shows 100%, rather it shows 33% or 66% when charging finished Oct 25 18:50:56 else58: (q) Recommended SHR: http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/shr-*--20090808-om-gta02.rootfs.* || Oct 25 18:51:14 testing is dead Oct 25 18:51:47 you might even use 20090906 Oct 25 18:52:00 but SHR-Um not testing Oct 25 18:52:34 DocScrutinizer: I'm sorry I misspoke, i'm running unstable Oct 25 18:52:41 k Oct 25 18:52:44 200909061614 Oct 25 18:52:52 :-) Oct 25 18:53:42 bye Oct 25 19:10:32 how can i install the rtl8187 wifi driver on my OpenMoko? Oct 25 19:36:32 guys ... how can i install another wifi driver? Oct 25 19:36:44 lord-carlos: another wifi driver? Oct 25 19:37:11 lindi-: yes, rtl8187 Oct 25 19:39:13 i want to connect other wifi dongles to my Moko Oct 25 19:39:39 Tuju did u reflash the same rootfs or what? Oct 25 21:13:41 hi folks Oct 25 21:14:03 I haven't seen any SHR-Unstable package upgrades for weeks. What happened? Oct 25 21:18:40 they gave up and pre-ordered a nokia n900. Oct 25 21:18:58 lol Oct 25 21:35:08 sybren, because we are working on a new image. Oct 25 21:35:12 I agree it's sub optimal Oct 25 21:35:23 but hopefully we'll stop doing this crap Oct 25 21:35:25 :| Oct 25 21:42:14 hey, I don't care whether things are suboptimal. As long as other people (i.e. you guys) are working on improving *my* phone, I'm a happy camper! Oct 25 21:43:13 so thanks for all the work Oct 25 21:43:18 ! Oct 25 21:47:22 hrm, improving how? Oct 25 21:47:45 hopefully by treating it as less of a desktop and more of an embedded device? Oct 25 21:49:45 noo, we need VM ware with windows 7 on the OpenMoko. So you can install skype Oct 25 22:13:37 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r222bf25b2712 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/atcommand.vala: fsogsmd: change interface declaration order to work around https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=599595 Oct 25 22:59:13 Hi there, I need connect my openmoko to laptop.. but I'm writing dfu-util --list and the moko no appear Oct 25 23:01:06 needs to be booted into the (preferrably nor) bootloader Oct 25 23:17:58 mjr: why preferrably NOR? Oct 25 23:26:56 I've converted my freerunner into a bong. I feel it makes a lovely centerpiece. I'll post a blog with pictures later today. Oct 25 23:28:22 'cause we know it's probably not screwed up as far as flashing goes Oct 26 02:24:45 who has the screwed up nand? Oct 26 02:26:24 mjr: rofl. Oct 26 02:26:34 erh damn that other guy tab fail Oct 26 02:29:54 an a mokobogn whats that anyways boredom,,,,, boredom is self inflicted . **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Oct 26 02:59:58 2009