**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Nov 04 02:59:57 2009 Nov 04 07:14:48 morning Nov 04 07:21:23 morning Nov 04 07:35:35 good morning Nov 04 14:18:02 hi Nov 04 14:18:44 hello Nov 04 14:18:55 I am busy being happy that my wikireader arrived today Nov 04 14:23:02 :) Nov 04 18:18:20 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r59c66bb02d0a 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/sms.vala: fsogsmd: sms: fix off-by-one error for concatenated messages Nov 04 18:43:05 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r2f6cf83d6f95 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/ (atcommands.vala atunsolicited.vala sms.vala): fsogsmd: sms: feeding incoming CMTI to SmsStorage works now Nov 04 18:54:23 hi folks Nov 04 18:54:50 is there a functional difference between installing on NAND and µSD? Nov 04 18:55:30 Zeti: well, SD is slow. You also might want to use it as a removable storage.. Nov 04 18:55:37 ok Nov 04 18:55:45 so NAND is better for the OS Nov 04 18:56:41 how are the experiences with dfu-util under windows? Nov 04 18:56:53 Zeti: in theory nand wears-out. you can replace SD Nov 04 18:57:01 especially windows 7 Nov 04 18:58:28 Zeti, install linux on virtualbox/vmware Nov 04 18:58:34 it will save much time Nov 04 18:58:41 I've got it on a partition :-) Nov 04 18:58:46 but windows bootloader grabbed it Nov 04 18:58:52 so I got to reinstall grub somehow Nov 04 18:59:24 that's probably the fastest way then Nov 04 19:03:04 thanks for now Nov 04 20:33:59 wikireader is #2 an has a 5 star rating wow Nov 04 20:40:00 When everybody's discussing wikireader it seemed like it would be a total failure. What happened? Nov 04 20:40:55 slaxxer: on what? Nov 04 20:41:07 #2 as in "had to take a #2", or #2 as in it's ranked somewhere? Nov 04 20:41:25 amazon Nov 04 20:41:39 ah Nov 04 20:42:57 So how can it be that it's popular despite that's an additional device you need to carry with you and i assume the "developed" world has enough wireless connectivity everywhere, so wikipedia just as accessible from any cellphone? Nov 04 20:43:29 99 dollarsd maybe? Nov 04 20:43:39 Amazon.com Sales Rank: #588 in Electronics (See Bestsellers in Electronics) Nov 04 20:44:01 oh Nov 04 20:44:04 Handhelds Nov 04 20:44:14 I suspect xmas present pricing Nov 04 20:44:19 and a good release for that Nov 04 20:44:34 slaxxer: but when you already have you phone with you there's no need to buy anything to read wikipedia, is there? Nov 04 20:44:35 * zedstar has been enjoying using his wikireader on the tube Nov 04 20:44:54 secretly made kept the "others" out of mokos pocket Nov 04 20:45:21 so good for openmoko Nov 04 20:46:21 PaulFertser, try think about non-geeky-world Nov 04 20:46:37 an iphone users Nov 04 20:46:50 max_posedon: so? any dumb cellphone nowadays has gprs and a simple web-browser enough to read wikipedia with color pictures even. Nov 04 20:46:59 where people don't know how to switch on computers Nov 04 20:47:29 pay for data also Nov 04 20:47:39 PaulFerster in London if u commute like millions of us on the tube you dont get any cell connection Nov 04 20:47:42 max_posedon: Or they wonder why it won't work with no power int he building Nov 04 20:47:43 wikireader is simple enough you can give it to most idiots. Nov 04 20:47:56 i still would need some help on booting from sd card? please if possible Nov 04 20:48:00 an they can use it to Nov 04 20:48:23 which os to sdcard? Nov 04 20:48:24 zedstar: hehe, Moscow is more advanced then ;) Nov 04 20:48:26 also, I remember person, who sels "paper" wikipedia Nov 04 20:48:36 i try to boot new SHR on sdcard Nov 04 20:48:57 wheres the new shr at? Nov 04 20:49:02 but QI just boots from NAND, somehow it does not find all it needs in /boot/ dir on sd card Nov 04 20:49:12 so, I'm not bisness men, I don't know will wikipider be successfull or not Nov 04 20:49:25 i have 2 partitions on sd, 1st FAT , 2nd ext3 Nov 04 20:49:32 zedstar: wrong Nov 04 20:49:37 zoff99: ^^^ Nov 04 20:49:47 zoff99: Qi reads only ext2/3 partitions and ignores fat. Nov 04 20:50:18 zoff99: on the partion you should have rootfs and as part of that /boot/uImage-GTA02.bin kernel image. Nov 04 20:50:25 wheres this new shr located? Nov 04 20:50:47 PaulFester, i have that. on 2nd partition of SD card Nov 04 20:50:50 slaxxer: tests/mrmoku Nov 04 20:50:58 it did boot before, but now it does not. cant find out why Nov 04 20:51:28 zoff99: carefully check the filenames Nov 04 20:51:32 october 12? Nov 04 20:51:54 can the SD card be a problem itself? Nov 04 20:52:14 zoff99: yes, it can Nov 04 20:52:27 zoff99: to tell for sure you'll need serial console unfortunately Nov 04 20:52:39 oh, how can i find it out. QI does not show any messages, just "blink" "blink" Nov 04 20:52:49 i fixed my card with a digital camera Nov 04 20:52:57 serial console is no problem on GTA02 Nov 04 20:53:13 zoff99: so just hook up it and pastebin the output Nov 04 20:53:43 how do i start it with QI ? Nov 04 20:53:54 zoff99: you just boot the device with serial console attached Nov 04 20:54:25 ok thanks, i try that now Nov 04 20:55:12 PaulFertser: what are the console settings? Nov 04 20:55:30 zoff99: 115200 8n1 Nov 04 20:58:00 ok now i try with windows Nov 04 20:58:12 do i need to install special driver for openmoko modem Nov 04 20:58:14 ? Nov 04 21:01:39 zoff99: it all depends on the serial console you have Nov 04 21:01:52 terra term Nov 04 21:02:00 zoff99: if it's the usual OM debug board, then you just need FTDI drivers freely availble for download Nov 04 21:02:26 uhm, i dont have debug board. i thought it work just with serial cable and GTA02 ? Nov 04 21:03:42 zoff99: what is serial cable and where do you connect it? Nov 04 21:04:44 normal cable which is included with GTA02, i connect it on miniusb connector Nov 04 21:04:50 this does not work then? Nov 04 21:06:32 zoff99: it works but not as a serial console unfortunately Nov 04 21:06:41 oh :( Nov 04 21:09:02 zoff99: so your best bet is to check SD card contents to ensure it meets Qi expectations. If it doesn't work, try another card. BTW, what qi version do you use? Nov 04 21:09:30 i used many QI versions, i am trying other SD card now Nov 04 21:09:39 i used 4GB , now i try 2GB card Nov 04 21:10:06 but i know for sure, that the 4GB card did boot sometime. Nov 04 21:10:15 i just dont know what the error is :( Nov 04 22:35:53 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libgsm0710 * rff1745b65d5f 10/src/gsm0710.c: actually return the initialized context Nov 04 22:37:24 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libgsm0710 * r64bbeab3aa2d 10/configure.ac: post-release version bump Nov 04 23:29:56 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r5e0e0d75caf0 10/libfsobasics/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Nov 04 23:29:56 freesmartphone.org: libfsobasics: catch up with vala 0.7.8 Nov 04 23:29:56 freesmartphone.org: * no longer needs misc-vapi Nov 04 23:29:56 freesmartphone.org: * use string templates Nov 04 23:29:56 freesmartphone.org: * create StdErrLogger which is default (rather than NullLogger), if logger type unknown Nov 04 23:30:52 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r8fa8af225282 10/libfsobasics/configure.ac: libfsobasics: post-release version bump Nov 04 23:37:14 seen panicking Nov 04 23:55:20 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r256c0f0f5314 10/libfsotransport/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Nov 04 23:55:20 freesmartphone.org: libfsotransport: catch up with vala 0.7.8 and glib 2.22 Nov 04 23:55:20 freesmartphone.org: * use string templates Nov 04 23:55:20 freesmartphone.org: * use dns resolver Nov 04 23:55:20 freesmartphone.org: * no longer require misc-vapi Nov 04 23:56:17 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r6d9f7520a3f2 10/libfsotransport/configure.ac: libfsotransport: post-release version bump Nov 05 00:15:21 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r60a229817978 10/libfsoframework/ (8 files in 3 dirs): Nov 05 00:15:21 freesmartphone.org: libfsoframework: catch up with vala 0.7.8 Nov 05 00:15:21 freesmartphone.org: * use string templates Nov 05 00:15:21 freesmartphone.org: * debug output -- Nov 05 00:16:08 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rfb930c48fceb 10/libfsoframework/configure.ac: libfsoframework: post-release version bump Nov 05 00:21:13 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rda737a832ae8 10/libfsoresource/ (configure.ac fsoresource/Makefile.am): libfsoresource: do not require linux, posix, nor posixextra Nov 05 00:21:50 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rf876f52739a2 10/libfsoresource/configure.ac: libfsoresource: post-release version bump Nov 05 00:25:23 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r4705972a5de2 10/fsogsmd/ (configure.ac src/lib/Makefile.am): fsogsmd: require vala 0.7.8; do not use posix or posixextra Nov 05 00:39:56 yay lots of stuff Nov 05 00:47:52 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r5e15453239eb 10/ (Makefile docs/frameworkd.conf.sample): frameworkd.conf.sample: start documenting all plugins and their settings Nov 05 00:57:59 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rf208b1b085f6 10/ (docs/frameworkd.conf.sample fsogsmd/src/lib/sms.vala): fsogsmd: make sms storage dir prefix a configuration option and document it **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Nov 05 02:59:56 2009