**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Dec 07 02:59:57 2009 Dec 07 05:36:16 and Dec 07 11:39:06 hi all Dec 07 12:28:57 say, where does SHR store the messages and contacts in sqlite dbs ? (I want to upgrade and this time I don't want to lose any new contacts and messages) Dec 07 12:31:18 Bert_2: /etc/freesmartphone/opim/ Dec 07 12:32:33 Heinervdm: thx Dec 07 14:52:16 hello all Dec 07 14:52:26 hello Dec 07 14:52:35 i made a record/interview with the app "dictator" Dec 07 14:52:50 and now, i transfered the file to my computer Dec 07 14:52:57 but there, it isn't hearable Dec 07 14:53:12 sounds like it's mutch too slow Dec 07 14:53:18 Does it play - there is just no sound? Dec 07 14:53:27 there is sound Dec 07 14:53:35 ha Dec 07 14:53:36 ah Dec 07 14:53:38 on the openmoko, it's perfect Dec 07 14:53:51 skamster: yeah, Dec 07 14:53:53 but on my pc, it's strange, but it's just a wav-file Dec 07 14:54:06 skamster: that was investigated yesterday by somebody at #openmoko-cdevel Dec 07 14:54:12 sounds like a problem with the codec not writing the right rate Dec 07 14:54:12 a Dec 07 14:54:14 h Dec 07 14:54:36 (i know, may it's the wrong channel, but may it's a problem of dictator and not of the pc? :) ) Dec 07 14:54:56 skamster: looks like dictator is doing it wrong, if you try aplay on FR it'll play half the speed too, just like on your pc. Dec 07 14:55:24 strange thing.. Dec 07 14:55:35 is there a possibility to convert this? Dec 07 14:56:22 skamster: it's a problem with dictator i think. Dec 07 14:56:49 skamster: just use sox to play file twice the speed, it should temporarily solve your problems. Dec 07 14:57:05 yeah, but you speek about wrong speed.. so may there's a simply-programm which could speed it up.. ? ;) Dec 07 14:57:26 ok, i try it :) Dec 07 15:00:59 how do you use that? Dec 07 15:01:08 sox mic_2009-12-06_16\:46\:27.wav try.mp3 speed[50%] Dec 07 15:04:42 it works Dec 07 15:04:44 thx :) Dec 07 15:20:12 with Qi, if SHR and Debian give a different mac address on the same FR, how can I fix that? Dec 07 15:29:03 * pabs3 adds a /boot/append-GTA02 for now to workaround Dec 07 16:20:06 hello Dec 07 16:22:49 I flashed the dec 5 shr-u image. It frickin' works awesome. Dec 07 16:22:52 great job shr team Dec 07 16:25:22 wifi? Dec 07 16:35:21 wifi works awesome Dec 07 16:35:30 mokonnect works for the first time for me Dec 07 16:35:52 and the auto-resource management seems to work ok Dec 07 16:36:08 only thing that kind of sucks is that you can't close mokonnect, because then it disables wifi Dec 07 16:36:19 and they've put all the gui switches back in the settings Dec 07 16:55:34 is it possibe o Dec 07 16:55:55 damned keyboard Dec 07 16:56:20 Hi, is it possible to have the old black theme in shr unstable? Dec 07 16:56:56 spacepluk: the black - green screen? Dec 07 16:57:10 that was never the default Dec 07 17:04:19 Heinervdm: I know, I meant the black theme in the old om releases Dec 07 17:05:12 spacepluk: ah, that's not avaible in shr Dec 07 17:05:32 oh, I liked that theme :P Dec 07 17:09:18 i can't find a recipe for this... and even if there is one i think it won't build anymore Dec 07 19:01:22 have some of you tried the n900 from nokia? Dec 07 19:03:08 no. Dec 07 19:03:44 He lies! Dec 07 19:04:04 It is very shiny. Dec 07 19:04:22 I only got it as motivation for my diet. Dec 07 19:04:38 (-9Kg so far since ordering) Dec 07 19:04:49 how does the n900 help your diet? Dec 07 19:04:51 I was looking from someone who has tried it, and here if they like it, since I would like to have a phone to replace my freerunner since it never realy work Dec 07 19:05:31 Blastur: making the promise to myself that as I can't really afford it, and was rather overweight, it would be partially be paid for by savings in food. Dec 07 19:05:44 (it was also 50% off - due to coupon abuse) Dec 07 19:06:17 To quote: Dec 07 19:06:19 (04:22:49 PM) stongo: I flashed the dec 5 shr-u image. It frickin' works awesome. Dec 07 19:06:27 (not tried recent SHR) Dec 07 19:08:49 weird motivation Dec 07 19:09:29 I couldn't afford it. Dec 07 19:09:37 I managed to persuade myself I could. Dec 07 19:10:18 so you basically starve yourself by buying gear, so there is no money left for food? Dec 07 19:10:30 you must have really tiny margins on your income :) Dec 07 19:13:26 I am still condsidereing to buy it but I am not sure Dec 07 19:14:46 Blastur: unfortunately, yes. And I'm economising - not quite starving. Dec 07 19:14:58 beer__: I would recommend, if you can afford it. Dec 07 19:15:02 It's great. Dec 07 19:15:06 Out of hte box Dec 07 19:17:56 it is a questien if it is worth around 4000 danish kr, not if I can find those money Dec 07 19:19:51 I personally recommend it, it's very usable. Dec 07 19:20:05 ~6h battery life with xchat open on IRC. Dec 07 19:20:09 on 3G Dec 07 19:20:15 better on GSM Dec 07 19:20:47 >24h battery life ssh'd into it over wifi doing while true do sleep 60;echo fish;done Dec 07 19:21:21 sounds nice Dec 07 19:21:42 And a browser that can do youtube, and most flash sites. Dec 07 19:21:54 I think I might will buy it when it arrives in DK in a few weeks time Dec 07 19:22:17 you get root by installing one package Dec 07 19:22:38 It is not 100% open - there are some core binary things. Dec 07 19:22:48 But a 'normal' app-developer wouldn't care. Dec 07 19:24:17 I dont know about you but I prefer a 99% open phone that works and 100% open that does not Dec 07 19:24:27 Yes. Dec 07 19:25:00 Out of the box, call, text, youtube, slashdot, ... all work. Dec 07 19:25:22 And there are already some interesting apps popping up in the repositories. Dec 07 19:26:15 a shame that nokai is so slow with getting it it DK Dec 07 19:26:21 The shiniest feature is that when you go to the task switcher, all the existing windows are shown zoomed out on a virtual desktop, all live. Dec 07 19:26:26 and updating Dec 07 19:34:44 Hi all Dec 07 19:35:00 I will like to know if it is possible to have the eth ether gadget Dec 07 19:35:02 panicking: hi Dec 07 19:35:04 compiled in the kernel Dec 07 19:35:14 and the g_file_storage as a module Dec 07 19:35:27 using the menuconfig seems that there is no possible Dec 07 19:35:33 I have seen that qi send the info Dec 07 19:35:45 about the macaddress to the g_ether Dec 07 19:35:46 SpeedEvil: is it robust to carry around? like for a jog or so Dec 07 19:35:53 beer__, hi Dec 07 19:36:14 Blastur: I dunno. Dec 07 19:36:29 Blastur: I've dropped it 50cm onto carpet so far, and it survived. Dec 07 19:36:36 Blastur: It feels robust. Dec 07 19:36:49 however, as I can't afford to replace it, I'm getting accidental damage insurance. Dec 07 19:37:23 does g_ether take again the config during modprobe? Dec 08 01:08:14 how does the freerunner fare after being dropped ? Dec 08 01:09:44 testing Dec 08 01:10:51 lol, did it survive ? Dec 08 01:12:35 i have dropped mine several times an on gravel Dec 08 01:23:37 dropped 2m on concrete - on purpose. to demonstarte I know the hw I've built Dec 08 01:44:00 SpeedEvil: no faith? ;-P Dec 08 01:44:51 SpeedEvil: or are you OT once again (N900) XD Dec 08 01:45:45 /join #N900 for that ;-P Dec 08 01:48:01 (for bat lifetime) got 23h with 5 IRC cannels ober WLAN, and maybe 10h of 50% dim backlight (on N900) Dec 08 01:49:03 it's outright awesome Dec 08 01:49:57 friggin S3Cfoobar Samsung CPU will never get close - not even in vicinity Dec 08 01:50:40 there's a clear difference between susoend and zero-clock Dec 08 01:52:04 especially with linux kernel devel never getting the point about suspend being the utterly false concept for mobile always-up devices Dec 08 01:52:57 WTF *is* suspend?! what's it designed to serve for! Dec 08 01:53:55 kernel devels have no clue whatsoever about the hw&sw symbiosis (well, most of them) Dec 08 01:56:02 If you don't want to believe in my words, ask raster. Hell socond on this, unless Samsung took over his mind Dec 08 01:56:35 s/Hell socond/He'll second/ Dec 08 01:56:35 DocScrutinizer meant: If you don't want to believe in my words, ask raster. He'll second on this, unless Samsung took over his mind Dec 08 02:00:19 CQ. Dec 08 02:00:32 anybody alive? Dec 08 02:04:12 Yeah Dec 08 02:04:32 you really need - for the core design - people that understand hardware and software. Dec 08 02:04:34 EE+CE Dec 08 02:06:53 DocScrutinizer: you got mail Dec 08 02:07:06 not yet XD Dec 08 02:07:42 what's CE' Dec 08 02:07:45 ? Dec 08 02:07:50 computer engineer Dec 08 02:07:52 CS Dec 08 02:07:54 rather Dec 08 02:08:02 aaah Dec 08 02:08:07 And really EE+kernel hacker is ideal Dec 08 02:08:17 which is a rare skillset indeed. Dec 08 02:08:32 I'm 20% of a CE and 130% of a EE :-P Dec 08 02:08:43 :) Dec 08 02:09:02 PaulFertser: how's live? Dec 08 02:09:32 DocScrutinizer: enjoying mad snow that paralised all those stupid car-drivers today :) Dec 08 02:09:44 coooool - lol Dec 08 02:09:47 DocScrutinizer: how's yours? Dec 08 02:10:08 heard onother nasty report about Putin and Russia in TV today Dec 08 02:10:30 (mine) slow painful decay Dec 08 02:10:46 pinnnng - I got mail Dec 08 02:22:44 Hi everyone. The contact names in my phone log look ok, but the phone numbers look ugly with numbers like +84... and do not display the contact names, could anyone please help me solve this? will upgrade the messages app help? or do i need to change some settings? Dec 08 02:24:09 naquan: you do not mention the software you use Dec 08 02:25:33 PaulFertser: sorry, i'm using SHR 12-04-2009 Dec 08 02:25:55 naquan: also + is standard number notation, it's not ugly, it's standarde. Dec 08 02:28:03 PaulFertser: yes, it's standard but it's hard to read. I read on wiki that the phone log can convert that number to contact names, i wonder why the messages can't. Dec 08 02:29:15 PaulFertser: do i need to change the country code in settings? Dec 08 02:30:27 naquan: sure Dec 08 02:35:30 PaulFertser: :( it's still no help. is it only affected by the countrycode & areacode? can you give me the rule that they convert the numbers? Dec 08 02:37:17 naquan: i can't tell you the rule, sorry. Are you sure you specified all the parameters properly and restarted everything needed? Dec 08 02:45:41 PaulFertser: uhm, there're 4 prefixes in phone settings: international prefix=0, national prefix=9, country code=84 and the area code's blank Dec 08 02:47:02 PaulFertser: the wiki said Vietnam's international code is +84 and mobile code is 9 . i'm a bit confused. Dec 08 02:49:05 naquan: international prefix is + Dec 08 02:49:20 naquan: national prefix is probably blank for you. Dec 08 02:51:43 PaulFertser: is the country code the same as international prefix? Dec 08 02:52:06 naquan: nope Dec 08 02:52:26 naquan: prefix is what some (usa) stupids use instead of + Dec 08 02:52:33 naquan: i think that's 0 or 00 for them. Dec 08 02:52:49 naquan: country code doesn't include prefix. Dec 08 02:53:48 naquan: there were some letters about numbers normalisation on the ML, but i won't be searching it right now :) Dec 08 02:55:23 naquan: if your friend tells you "call my on my foo-mobile cellphone. number is 123456". What would you do to actually dial him? prepend the "foo" prefix xy? do 0xy as 0 is the national prefix? or what would you do if he were in usa? prepend the international prefic + plus counrty code of your friend's country? Dec 08 02:58:22 naquan: i'm off, cul **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Dec 08 02:59:56 2009