**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Dec 08 02:59:56 2009 Dec 08 03:20:27 DocScrutinizer: PaulFertser: thank you, i think i'll try to read the phoneui-messages source code Dec 08 04:32:13 damn! what mp3 and video players do you guys you for SHR? Dec 08 04:39:36 intone for mp3 and mplayer for video Dec 08 04:39:48 intone is nice. pythm seems to be popular. mplayer for video. Dec 08 04:52:15 hrmm...intone and pythm doesnt seem to work for me Dec 08 04:53:16 what happens ? Dec 08 04:56:09 oh shit..intone works now...wtf Dec 08 04:56:12 it used to just crash Dec 08 04:56:42 it crashes a lot sometimes. Dec 08 05:04:08 oh okay... at least i know it works now Dec 08 05:08:58 how do you uninstall something Dec 08 05:10:42 jaypro: try opkg uninstall Dec 08 05:11:07 Anybody know how to exit an application in android (on freerunner)? Dec 08 05:12:03 lol okay... still new Dec 08 05:13:41 Ahh... Apparently andoird automatically kills applications when you're done with them? Dec 08 05:13:50 s/andoird/android/ Dec 08 05:13:51 bamccaig meant: Ahh... Apparently android automatically kills applications when you're done with them? Dec 08 05:14:25 jaypro: which version of SHR are you using? Dec 08 05:16:21 ummm....shr full dated 2009-12-04 Dec 08 05:17:17 jaypro: both intone and alarm don't work in that version until you upgrade them Dec 08 05:17:35 jaypro: is there a problem with alarm too? Dec 08 05:18:34 nope Dec 08 05:19:15 at first, it didnt but i ran "opkg update" and upgrade Dec 08 05:19:54 opkg remove would work, but is there a listing of the packages someplace? Dec 08 05:21:49 i don't know if there 's any list of installed package Dec 08 05:23:14 maybe "opkg list-installed" or something Dec 08 05:23:29 try "opkg --help" Dec 08 05:24:30 ahh okay i got it.. thankx Dec 08 07:43:45 naquan: in fact it's a separate phone number normalisation library Dec 08 07:44:04 naquan: so you need to read that, not the phoneui-messages Dec 08 07:46:27 PaulFertser: I found the phoneui-messages 's just a small app that just call a dbus of phoneuid Dec 08 07:47:27 naquan: sure, and phoneuid links to another library to do normalisation. Dec 08 07:55:49 PaulFertser: the confusing part 's that dbus is an inter-process calls, so i can't find out which one accept these calls :( Dec 08 07:59:08 naquan: http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=libphone-utils.git;a=blob;f=src/phone-utils.c;h=e217224b01d7a71ff2205c0713294d7212df1701;hb=HEAD Dec 08 08:05:48 adfadsfgafedgasdfh Dec 08 08:06:03 I misread that as libiphone-utils for a second and was like "wait, that URL is wrong...!" Dec 08 08:16:25 FxChiP: no it's a right url, it just take me a while to find out the function. Dec 08 08:16:48 PaulFertser: thank you, I'm reading it Dec 08 09:43:46 hi all Dec 08 09:46:45 hey Dec 08 16:59:11 hi Dec 08 17:09:14 wassa Dec 08 17:25:41 better to use testing shr now? Dec 08 17:26:40 i'm using unstable, and works OK now Dec 08 17:27:01 testingg has newer images Dec 08 18:30:49 Upgrading ffalarms on root from 0.3.1+svnr67-r0.4 to 0.3.1+svnr67-r1.4... Dec 08 18:30:57 that seems odd Dec 08 18:31:33 opkg upgrade on the latest testing image Dec 08 18:42:14 http://openmoko.opendevice.org:8080/testtrac - proposition for new SHR main page design,what do you think? Dec 08 18:43:15 (subpages are not there, and not everything is styled yet :P) Dec 08 18:43:36 smart color scheme Dec 08 18:43:50 'based on >the< freesmartphone Dec 08 18:43:51 maybe Dec 08 18:43:54 I like it Dec 08 18:44:00 It is shiny Dec 08 18:44:21 timeline not readable at all) Dec 08 18:44:32 permanent Hostage? Dec 08 18:44:48 max_posedon: because i didn't style it yet :P Dec 08 18:45:32 but first page looks good Dec 08 18:45:41 tickets table is also disaster ATM Dec 08 18:50:13 the base theme on the neo needs that color scheme because that bright white background is killin my eyes Dec 08 18:51:23 brian_: i want to make theme for neo based on colors from our logo too :) Dec 08 18:51:37 hutty man Dec 08 18:51:41 rr Dec 08 19:10:46 is e30k-40k (a margin of 25-33% gotta love these guys) anything to live on in cork? Dec 08 19:10:55 and this is the wrong channel :p Dec 08 19:16:54 * SpeedEvil ponders living in a house carved from cork. Dec 08 19:17:02 It'd be quite warm, and bouncy. Dec 08 19:17:10 * SpeedEvil approves. Dec 08 19:48:23 not much happening at "core"? Dec 08 19:48:40 was some hardware made? Dec 08 19:48:42 Core has a fundamental problem - it needs funding Dec 08 19:48:50 making one phone is expensive. Dec 08 19:49:00 Perhaps $2000 ish. Dec 08 19:49:21 Assuming you need several board spins to get it right, and not counting labour costs. Dec 08 19:49:48 has there not been 2 board spins already? Dec 08 19:49:53 You need to get an order for maybe a thousand to get the costs down to a marketable level. And the n900 has somewhat decapitated the market Dec 08 19:50:18 I don't actually know - I should have been keeping up with it - but I haven't had the energy this year. Dec 08 19:50:35 gta01-gta02? Dec 08 19:51:04 err - no Dec 08 19:51:19 gta02 for example has had I think 9 different PCB versions. Dec 08 19:51:32 And the released version _still_ has problems that could do with another one Dec 08 19:52:04 ya, even A7 is plagued by #1024 and the somewhat bassless sound Dec 08 19:53:33 And for each PCB version - you need at least several hundred dollars. Dec 08 19:53:53 Assuming skilled labour is free Dec 08 20:46:56 ok wifi works as long as i leave mokoconnect alive Dec 08 20:48:55 consider changing the 080808 to shr testing Dec 08 20:49:17 in the topic,,, if it pleases u Doc:) Dec 08 21:13:35 Hi all. Is there some guide to how ipkg's work. I'd like to look at the postinstall actions for a package, not sure how to go about it. Dec 08 21:15:28 Sorry, I should google a bit more before asking questions :-/