**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Dec 25 02:59:57 2009 Dec 25 07:48:27 what does it mean Dec 25 07:48:33 I got Qi Dec 25 07:48:48 I turn on power button Dec 25 07:49:08 and only small vibration signal is Dec 25 07:49:26 then I turn on second time it runs from flash Dec 25 07:49:45 I am not sure what is wrong Qi or my microsd system Dec 25 08:21:11 omg Dec 25 08:21:32 kozio, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi#LED_and_Vibrator_Signals Dec 25 08:21:35 I got smth like uknown boot options Dec 25 08:21:50 yeye, but I haven't it Dec 25 08:24:43 unknown boot option "g_ether.dev_addr=00 Dec 25 08:24:47 got smth like this Dec 25 08:26:20 http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td3731061 Dec 25 08:26:28 the same problem Dec 25 08:29:54 and the uboot tells me that it is wrong image format Dec 25 08:29:58 for uboot Dec 25 08:29:59 lol Dec 25 08:30:49 what are you trying to boot from where? Dec 25 08:30:59 microsd Dec 25 08:32:46 it is only running system from flash Dec 25 08:32:57 how did you format it? Dec 25 08:33:04 with ext2 Dec 25 08:33:27 and in boot folder Dec 25 08:33:28 I got Dec 25 08:33:40 uImage-sheevaplug Dec 25 08:33:43 this file Dec 25 08:34:06 and this System.map-sheevaplug Dec 25 08:34:07 hold on Dec 25 08:34:34 power? Dec 25 08:35:09 "Some versions of u-boot look for uImage and not uImage.bin you may have to remove the .bin extension to get it to boot." Dec 25 08:35:40 I haven't boot Dec 25 08:35:43 did you make sure that the right files and symlinks were in the boot dir Dec 25 08:35:43 tfu Dec 25 08:35:45 .bin Dec 25 08:36:13 you could always take the microsd out and check it with a desktop computer, no? Dec 25 08:36:19 ya Dec 25 08:36:22 I jsut go tit Dec 25 08:36:24 in computer Dec 25 08:36:50 so what do you have in the boot dir? Dec 25 08:37:22 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi#Files Dec 25 08:37:36 which distro are you trying to boot btw Dec 25 08:37:53 uImage-sheevaplug Dec 25 08:38:04 and System.map-sheevaplug Dec 25 08:38:08 2files Dec 25 08:38:18 Archlinux Dec 25 08:38:46 you need to have uImage-GTA0[123].bin there too Dec 25 08:38:58 .. System.map-sheevaplug uImage-sheevaplug Dec 25 08:39:14 if uImage-sheevaplug is a valid kernel .bin file Dec 25 08:39:36 make a symlink to it pointing to /boot/uImage-GTA0[123].bin Dec 25 08:39:36 why valid? Dec 25 08:40:10 also, I'd recommend you make another symlink of it pointing to /boot/uImage.bin Dec 25 08:40:35 valid, otherwise qi will not load the kernel Dec 25 08:41:28 ln -s /boot/uImage-sheevaplug /boot/uImage-GTA0[123].bin;/boot/uImage-sheevaplug /boot/uImage.bin Dec 25 08:41:57 you need to remove the '[]'s and choose 1 2 3 depending on your phone's model Dec 25 08:42:18 I got FR think it is 2 Dec 25 08:42:30 I forgot to put 'ln -s' after ';' Dec 25 08:42:56 ln -s not ln -l? Dec 25 08:43:05 so ln -s /boot/uImage-sheevaplug /boot/uImage-GTA02.bin; ln -s /boot/uImage-sheevaplug /boot/uImage.bin Dec 25 08:43:16 without the 'so' Dec 25 08:44:50 do I need downlonad uImage form here http://people.openmoko.org/andy/? Dec 25 08:45:26 you should use the uImage recommended for the distro (ArchLinux) that you want to boot Dec 25 08:46:15 how big a file is uImage-sheevaplug? Dec 25 08:46:32 2.6mb Dec 25 08:47:11 try "ln -s /boot/uImage-sheevaplug /boot/uImage-GTA02.bin; ln -s /boot/uImage-sheevaplug /boot/uImage.bin" Dec 25 08:47:26 then umount the uSD Dec 25 08:48:22 and when you boot it in your phone, hold down the power button until you get debug messages on the screen Dec 25 08:49:41 but make sure you have the right dir name, since you're doing it from a desktop computer Dec 25 08:50:09 it might be "/media/somedrive/boot/uImage-sheevaplug" Dec 25 08:50:23 depending on how you/your distro mounted the uSD Dec 25 08:50:27 does that make any sense? Dec 25 08:50:30 ye, cuz I jsut wanna make sylink for my pc linux Dec 25 08:50:30 xD Dec 25 08:50:46 exactly Dec 25 08:51:59 aff Dec 25 08:52:06 what I need to downloand Dec 25 08:52:23 uImage.bin and uImage-GTA* from where? Dec 25 08:52:53 uImage-sheevaplug Dec 25 08:53:11 *not download Dec 25 08:53:18 make symlink from uImage-sheevaplug Dec 25 08:53:28 ln: tworzenie dowi0105zania symbolicznego `/media/ea*/boot/uImage-GTA02.bin': No such file or directory ln: tworzenie dowi0105zania symbolicznego `/media/ea*/boot/uImage.bin': No such file or directory Dec 25 08:53:54 it's easier if you 'cd' to the card's boot dir Dec 25 08:54:36 don't make reason her Dec 25 08:54:44 what a problem Dec 25 08:54:56 and then just do "ln -s uImage-sheevaplug uImage.bin;ln -s uImage-sheevaplug uImage-GTA02.bin" Dec 25 08:55:09 where is your card mounted? Dec 25 08:55:19 in /media/ea* Dec 25 08:55:30 *? Dec 25 08:55:38 ealksjdslkjfdlksjfdlskjflsa;ldkas Dec 25 08:55:43 much letters Dec 25 08:55:51 whoa Dec 25 08:56:06 ^.> Dec 25 08:56:15 what happens if you type "cd /media/ea" and press tab? Dec 25 08:56:27 I am in boot Dec 25 08:56:52 ok, then "ln -s uImage-sheevaplug uImage.bin;ln -s uImage-sheevaplug uImage-GTA02.bin" Dec 25 08:58:27 did it work now? Dec 25 08:58:41 ln: tworzenie dowi0105zania symbolicznego `uImage-GTA02.bin': Permission denied Dec 25 08:59:12 then do it as root Dec 25 08:59:17 I gotta go. good luck Dec 25 08:59:32 got it Dec 25 08:59:34 :P Dec 25 08:59:49 and now boot? from fr Dec 25 08:59:51 kk Dec 25 08:59:54 ok, now cd out of it Dec 25 08:59:59 umount the sucka Dec 25 09:00:15 kk Dec 25 09:00:18 and boot it from the phone by pressing the power butt. ~10 sec Dec 25 09:00:19 got Dec 25 09:00:54 actually, before that Dec 25 09:01:06 I'd recommend you do fsck.ext2 on it Dec 25 09:01:13 *without* mounting Dec 25 09:01:24 just to make sure there's nothing wrong with the card Dec 25 09:01:27 later Dec 25 09:01:51 lifesystemceck Dec 25 09:04:53 check succefull Dec 25 09:16:31 sux Dec 25 09:16:43 while I was trying to start system from microsd Dec 25 09:16:48 battery totaly discharged Dec 25 09:16:49 omg Dec 25 09:24:57 Hi Dec 25 09:26:00 I've just plugged in my GTA02A7 for the first time Dec 25 09:26:12 and it won't display anything else than "openmoko" Dec 25 09:27:48 what should I do? Dec 25 09:28:11 :P Dec 25 09:28:45 maybe flash it Dec 25 09:30:09 how? Dec 25 09:31:03 it won't turn off yet it hasn't started... Dec 25 09:31:23 should I remove the battery? Dec 25 09:31:43 I am not pro Dec 25 09:31:44 :P Dec 25 09:32:16 got problem with my battery it completly discharged even uboot won't start Dec 25 09:32:18 shit Dec 25 09:32:19 ... Dec 25 09:35:27 oh, it boots Dec 25 10:11:25 ifconfig Dec 25 10:11:27 oops Dec 25 11:24:20 is the device defective or...? Dec 25 11:24:37 sometimes, it doesn't get past the "openmoko" screen Dec 25 11:24:56 other times, it locks up when starting xglamo Dec 25 11:25:04 and a few times, it works Dec 25 11:27:44 kozio, can you boot w/out bat? Dec 25 12:00:22 badcloud_, nop, I just admit that my battery is out Dec 25 12:00:22 :P Dec 25 12:00:34 and my openmoko go sux Dec 25 12:00:36 : ( Dec 25 12:11:16 you've tried booting to nand with only the wall charger/usb cable? Dec 25 12:11:40 (hold AUX and plug in) Dec 25 12:18:43 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_(GTA02)_Battery#What_to_do_if_your_battery_has_become_completely_discharged Dec 25 12:19:03 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_(GTA02)_Battery#Alien_Charging_of_Battery Dec 25 13:44:33 Hello. I am currently using om2009 and have a question - how to completly disable/remove this annoying screen lock? Dec 25 14:08:09 groszek, maybe this might help http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td4140076 (even though it's for shr) Dec 25 14:19:45 please use pipermail URLs for references. Nabble is js crap Dec 25 14:22:58 http://www.google.de/search?q=site:http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/+ Dec 25 14:36:02 DocScrutinizer, check Dec 25 14:36:11 what's shakin Dec 25 14:36:36 errr huh? Dec 25 14:38:31 badcloud_, thanks, that will do :) Dec 25 14:45:03 MUCH better user experience without that crap Dec 25 14:46:34 but evil proprietary software :( Dec 25 15:01:20 DocScrutinizer51, as in how's it going? Dec 25 15:01:40 aah Dec 25 15:01:41 groszek, I agree :) Dec 25 15:01:55 still sick with flu :-/ Dec 25 15:02:07 sux Dec 25 15:04:34 just made Christmas quacamole Dec 25 15:05:29 yum yum Dec 25 15:12:51 badcloud_: I actually found a decent turk restaurant yesterday and got me a pretty tasty iskender kebab. Hail muslim gastronomy saving starving anarchists on x mess desaster Dec 25 15:14:12 seems like it's high time to try and find some breakfast for today Dec 25 17:47:29 DocScrutinizer51, haha Dec 25 17:47:38 sounds tasty Dec 26 00:47:23 I'm planning to use a gta2 as a simple continous gps logger. (no gui, only continous logging to disk). Dec 26 00:48:15 I was planning to use a fso image w/o gui as i used before, but it looks like mielstone5.5 only comes as a zhone-image? Dec 26 00:48:22 What is my best choice now? Dec 26 00:49:01 shr-unstable and removing many packages Dec 26 00:49:19 but I'm not sure, that you should delete smth Dec 26 00:49:27 you can just ignore gui Dec 26 00:50:41 i need a long battery time, so woudn't running w/o a gui be good? Dec 26 01:25:42 What is the state of Open Moko ? can you do phone calls easy ,gps stuff with say google maps and play movies and music ? Dec 26 01:33:15 good, yes, yes/no, no, yes Dec 26 01:33:39 google maps can't be show on any software except browser according to license Dec 26 01:33:51 but opensteetmaps works well Dec 26 01:34:01 movies - no, music - yes Dec 26 01:34:41 Really no movies , that is crazy . As long as it was the right specs I thought it would work . What the device would run Dec 26 01:35:05 I think glamo specs is problem Dec 26 01:35:26 ok, you can see movies, but only in 320x240 for now) Dec 26 01:36:45 That is the hardware your running it on . What web browser can it run ? Dec 26 01:37:08 armv4tl@400Mhz Dec 26 01:37:16 I'm running midori Dec 26 01:37:21 (128Mb RAM) Dec 26 01:38:19 What is midori? Dec 26 01:38:45 webkit based web browser Dec 26 01:39:07 On openmoko or you pc ? Dec 26 01:39:59 openmoko Dec 26 01:41:49 tarelerulz, I think we can continue there Dec 26 01:41:54 openmoko can run android Dec 26 01:42:16 What is the os called for the devices ? Dec 26 01:43:14 we have different options Dec 26 01:43:31 android, gentoo, debian, shr, hackable:1, freebsd, and many others Dec 26 01:44:42 What is running on it on the pictures on the site ? Dec 26 01:45:32 I think you can find much on wiki.openmoko.org Dec 26 01:47:00 I been trying to keep up on the state of Linux smart phones . The last I saw the open moko was not in state I would use it as phone . Android and Even Maemo seem to be going pretty nice Dec 26 01:47:51 its true Dec 26 01:48:12 openmoko projects have little bit different goals Dec 26 01:48:24 1. be greatest phone dev platform Dec 26 01:48:45 2. be a classic linux Dec 26 01:49:59 Like I said , I just wanted to get an idea of its state . Dec 26 01:50:52 OM is essentially interesting if you need a portable phone platform Dec 26 01:50:57 that is - shr and variants Dec 26 01:51:06 which may be interesting to port to your new phone. Dec 26 01:51:09 however. Dec 26 01:51:24 The FR hardware is getting rather aged, in many ways. Dec 26 01:52:06 Maemo is essentially release quality phone software. Dec 26 01:52:19 It has issues, but not really many of them. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Dec 26 02:59:56 2009