**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jan 19 02:59:57 2010 Jan 19 03:09:04 I was in the middle of opkg upgrade when it went down :( Jan 19 03:49:17 * naquan syncing the android source, wonder why it's so large, up to 2GB :( Jan 19 05:32:52 shr build host 's still not on, :( Jan 19 06:24:33 naquan: seems working now Jan 19 06:45:07 JaMa|Off: i see, thank you. Jan 19 07:06:13 anyone else has problem with SHR unstable 20100115? the three button "contact" "messages" and "dialer" didn't show up for me. Jan 19 08:01:51 hi everyone, in SHR is there a way to change the buttons at bottom of screen? version unstable 20100114 & 0115 show 10 buttons at bottom of screen with no text at all :( Jan 19 08:05:21 /join #mysql Jan 19 10:26:30 hello! Jan 19 10:27:08 does anybody know about a vnc software for SHR? Jan 19 10:27:56 Pepe: if there's no packaged, just ask shr guys to add it to the feeds Jan 19 10:29:50 ok thanks :) Jan 19 13:08:42 How am I supposed to connect to wlan in the SHR image? I manually turned on wifi, but I don't see any (graphical) way to connect to an AP. I've verified that the AP is seen with "iwlist scan" Jan 19 13:09:09 Laibsch: you can try mokonnect Jan 19 13:10:28 Is that installed by default? Jan 19 13:11:22 Laibsch: IIRC yes Jan 19 13:11:38 but I've never used that.. Jan 19 13:11:47 used what? Jan 19 13:11:48 Laibsch: in feeds is also wpa-gui Jan 19 13:11:52 mokonnect.. Jan 19 13:11:55 OK Jan 19 13:11:57 what do you use? Jan 19 13:12:18 I think the SHR image, even the lite one, should contain a GUI to connect to Wifi Jan 19 13:12:21 I have all networks I need manually in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf and modified /etc/network/interfaces to read that.. Jan 19 13:12:29 I see Jan 19 13:15:18 Does anyone use a VoIP client on SHR (testing)? Jan 19 15:50:50 is there a tested way to reflash the very internals of FR to change imei number? Jan 19 15:51:39 groszek: yes there is a way to change IMEI. But it's top secret :-) Jan 19 15:51:59 hurr hurr, I need it to stop revealing my secrets to my country :P Jan 19 15:52:29 I.E. *I* can do thet. But I won't disclose Jan 19 15:52:38 that even Jan 19 15:52:47 /other than resoldering some tiny weeny elements on mobo?/ Jan 19 15:54:18 hrm! Jan 19 15:55:17 yeah. the suggested way to fix IMEI is to send device in to OM repair (which I fear is me for now). It won't include any soldering action, just using factory tools Jan 19 15:55:53 ah Jan 19 15:56:48 I'd love to have some firmware burner in crontab, changing my imei every 10 minutes or so :-) Jan 19 15:58:41 nice idea. Alas I'm reluctant to support it, for legal reasons as well as to protect OM customers from theft etc Jan 19 16:00:54 hrhr ok, I'll try to figure on my own. Jan 19 16:03:07 forget it. Unless you're a devine calypso firmware hacker you'll fail epically Jan 19 16:06:10 See the calypso specs that appeared on wikileaks Jan 19 16:06:21 but - you will almost certainly brick your device Jan 19 16:06:51 just so much to shorten your useless efforts: FLUID can't do that for all we know (and even *we* (OM) do not know each detail of calypso nitty gritty) Jan 19 16:07:17 I assume you don't get unencrypted firmware? Jan 19 16:07:28 hm, it's that 400-or-so-pages document? Jan 19 16:07:32 yes Jan 19 16:07:46 that only covers the hardware, and not the firmware at all Jan 19 16:07:56 hehe Jan 19 16:07:58 hrm, maybe better I'll get my own bts and carry in my backpack Jan 19 16:08:00 have fun Jan 19 16:08:36 For someone skilled at SMD soldering - and embedded devlopment - to extract the firmware - reverse engineering - and ... it is a not impossible task. Jan 19 16:08:58 but it's going to take someone skilled in the art at least a few days of work. Jan 19 16:09:06 Maybe more like a month. Jan 19 16:09:34 hrm, that's bad Jan 19 16:10:43 odds are even then you'll probably not be able to change IMEI Jan 19 16:11:27 afaik all the relevant parts are crypted Jan 19 16:11:55 and you have a hard time to find the encrypting key Jan 19 16:12:32 all the network login negotiation etc are entirely handled by binary blob in gsm module? Jan 19 16:13:17 the lowerGSM layer are blobs, yes Jan 19 16:13:53 come as blob from TI Jan 19 16:14:17 OM just links them in when building own firmware for calypso Jan 19 16:15:09 well Jan 19 16:15:14 * DocScrutinizer51 away Jan 19 16:15:20 ok thanks for the info Jan 19 19:37:33 i take it the opkg upgrade issues have gone away now? Jan 19 19:37:43 about to upgrade my shr-t Jan 19 19:40:44 tim_abell: shr-t should be quite safe.. Jan 19 19:44:57 brill, thanks Jan 19 20:00:35 success Jan 19 20:15:38 hello , where to download stable android install file for FR ? Jan 19 20:41:18 mickeyl: hello are you Michael Trimarchi (aka panicking) ? Jan 19 20:42:59 alabd: no he is Michael ‘Mickey’ Lauer Jan 19 20:43:12 alabd: you can see it with /whois mickeyl too Jan 19 20:43:34 JaMa|Off: have you worked on android on fr ? Jan 19 20:43:45 alabd: no Jan 19 20:46:05 anyone else ? Jan 20 00:31:19 I'm running QtMoko with v16B with no debug kernel. My Wifi worked perfectly but now that I have rebooted, I get "Unavailable" is this a known bug related to the kernel ? Jan 20 00:33:55 yep Jan 20 00:34:18 no debug kernel unabled different bugs, which repeated from time-to-time Jan 20 00:35:37 so somehow related to timing/speed of the new kernel, I guess that's good to flash those bugs out and sort them. is there a workaround for me in the meantime ? how do I power-up the wifi manually ? Jan 20 00:36:03 although another reboot seemed to work for me Jan 20 00:36:14 I think your wifi module segfault Jan 20 00:36:34 I don't know if it possible at all, to enable it Jan 20 00:36:59 what log should I look at to confirm Jan 20 00:37:19 dmesg, logs I don't know Jan 20 00:49:20 Hrm.. is there a way to get the phone log and messages apps to recognise that the numbers like 0407xxxyyy are the same as +61407xxxyyy? (australian mobile numbers) Jan 20 01:04:22 I get this in my dmesg when I boot, is it something I should worry about or report somewhere ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/359323/ Jan 20 01:41:34 n8 Jan 20 01:41:56 DocScrutinizer51: docz! Jan 20 01:42:13 rastrrrrrrrman Jan 20 01:42:33 wazzap? Jan 20 01:42:38 tired Jan 20 01:43:02 maemo drivers are nuts sometimes Jan 20 01:43:08 mindboggling Jan 20 01:43:12 yeah Jan 20 01:43:18 like they crash every few minutes Jan 20 01:43:19 :) Jan 20 01:43:26 see LED driver Jan 20 01:43:42 in wiki LED_Patterns Jan 20 01:43:56 no crashes here Jan 20 01:44:18 AAAAAAAAAAAAAGH! Jan 20 01:44:19 but madness beyond all imagination Jan 20 01:44:21 there was a bug Jan 20 01:44:24 someone fixed it Jan 20 01:44:25 gaaaah Jan 20 01:44:27 yay Jan 20 01:44:28 and boo Jan 20 01:44:32 now i dont know why its gone Jan 20 01:46:21 anyway. too early for my bakery. too late for me. and no piece of cake in the fridge Jan 20 01:46:21 DocScrutinizer51: have you had many unexplained crashes? I've not had one Jan 20 01:46:35 me neither Jan 20 01:46:48 raster absorbed all of them Jan 20 01:46:52 i guess it just hates raster. Jan 20 01:46:55 none left for us Jan 20 01:47:09 hehehehehhe Jan 20 01:47:10 Fun - the rear cam is actualy quite sensitive Jan 20 01:47:16 * raster hugs his nicer hw Jan 20 01:47:28 braggard Jan 20 01:47:28 man the n 900 is thickl Jan 20 01:47:33 its FAT Jan 20 01:47:40 its got a fat arse Jan 20 01:47:46 mplayer tv:// -tv device=/dev/video0:width=320:height=240 -vf eq=77:100,eq=10:100,eq=50:100,scale=160:120,denoise3d=8:6:22,eq=0:99 Jan 20 01:47:51 this other one here is half the thickness - literally Jan 20 01:48:06 yeah I can kill people by throwing it at them Jan 20 01:48:13 (may need 3 or 4 to brighten or dim the image) - in a darkish area Jan 20 01:48:23 which is an advantage ;-) Jan 20 01:49:07 raster: so I gather it has no kbd Jan 20 01:49:24 which is a nogo for me Jan 20 01:49:25 I get this in my dmesg when I boot, is it something I should worry about or report somewhere ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/359323/ Jan 20 01:49:46 anyway Jan 20 01:49:51 night now Jan 20 01:49:56 hipitihop: no - utterly harmless as far as I see. Jan 20 01:50:18 DocScrutinizer51: no. none, but the n900 kbd is actually quite poor Jan 20 01:50:21 its too small Jan 20 01:50:26 they gave it way too little space Jan 20 01:50:32 I get 95% accuracy with eyes closed Jan 20 01:50:34 they could have had the screen slide up a lot more Jan 20 01:51:23 SpeedEvil, ok, thanks.. although my QTMoko distro does appear to be ignoring me fiddling the gsmhandset.state file, but perhaps that's just me twiddling wrong controls, so glad the log is unrelated Jan 20 01:51:47 the control names are simply truncated at 31 chars - they should function as normal - I think Jan 20 01:52:01 SpeedEvil, btw, what was your previous 'mplayer ...' related msg about ? Jan 20 01:52:13 hipitihop: n900 - off-topic, sorry Jan 20 01:52:20 SpeedEvil, np Jan 20 01:53:18 SpeedEvil, I thought it may be related to some thread I read someone working on mplayer speedups... I'm dead keen to be able to playback MythTV streams on my FR Jan 20 02:07:35 Hrm.. is there a way to get the phone log and messages apps in SHR to recognise that the numbers like 0407xxxyyy are the same as +61407xxxyyy? (australian mobile numbers) Jan 20 02:25:03 morning Jan 20 02:25:11 is anyone good with gtk ? Jan 20 02:25:24 i want to make a python twitter client, but i don't want to handle gtk **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jan 20 02:59:57 2010