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Jan 31 05:16:17 <rvs1st> WSOD when fix?
Jan 31 06:21:11 <PaulFertser> rvs1st: as you've been already told by the developer, use OpenWRT, it's wsod-free.
Jan 31 06:21:36 <rvs1st> cool
Jan 31 06:21:56 <rvs1st> are u using it?
Jan 31 06:31:25 <PaulFertser> I'm not
Jan 31 06:31:56 <PaulFertser> But my device is not really likely to go in WSOD, it's only some devices that reliably experience that.
Jan 31 06:33:05 <rvs1st> what device do u have
Jan 31 06:33:11 <rvs1st> freerunner?
Jan 31 06:33:16 <rvs1st> or the old one
Jan 31 06:33:39 <PaulFertser> I have both, but i'm talking about gta02 atm.
Jan 31 06:36:05 <rvs1st> really what distro are u using
Jan 31 06:37:14 <slaxxer> 2008.9?
Jan 31 06:37:16 <hipitihop> openwrt doesn't have a phone stack though afaik ?
Jan 31 06:37:59 <rvs1st> in lay mans term?
Jan 31 06:39:34 <rvs1st> its like ddwrt?
Jan 31 06:39:45 <rvs1st> the way i see it hmm 
Jan 31 06:40:00 <rvs1st> what distro woould it WSOD go away
Jan 31 06:40:02 <rvs1st> hehehe
Jan 31 06:41:47 <PaulFertser> rvs1st: i'm using Debian with shr apps. Didn't upgrade for a while though, i've heard some breakage in unstable was experienced.
Jan 31 06:41:52 <hipitihop> rvs1st, I have gta02 a05 and I have tried a a few distros and I have never experienced wsod
Jan 31 06:43:09 <slaxxer> whats your current distro
Jan 31 06:43:24 <hipitihop> slaxxer, is that aimed at me ?
Jan 31 06:43:52 <slaxxer> "rvs1st"
Jan 31 06:45:14 <rvs1st> shr
Jan 31 06:45:25 <rvs1st> hmmm
Jan 31 06:45:53 <rvs1st> tried flashing it with diff distrio from droid to shr
Jan 31 06:46:08 <rvs1st> when when it comes to phone use really the stock on my phone was the best
Jan 31 06:46:19 <rvs1st> and i guess the qt extended
Jan 31 06:48:13 <slaxxer> shr - testing is wsod for u?
Jan 31 06:49:28 <FxChiP> WSOD?
Jan 31 06:58:54 <rvs1st> yep
Jan 31 06:59:11 <rvs1st> when i dont touch it 
Jan 31 06:59:23 <rvs1st> for like 5 - 10 min then booom white screen
Jan 31 08:34:59 <Serdar> t-7 days
Jan 31 08:42:16 <Alexy> I can't seem to get SHR to play ogg files as ringtones
Jan 31 08:42:48 <Alexy> should i be encoding them differently?
Jan 31 11:55:55 <alabd> hello , don't you have problem with entering password in midori 
Jan 31 12:01:36 <DocScrutinizer> alexxy: use .wav. For benefit of short latencies
Jan 31 12:02:07 <alabd> midori does not open keyboard for password box , why ? 
Jan 31 12:03:01 <Heinervdm> alabd: ask matchbox guys
Jan 31 12:07:56 <DocScrutinizer> btw I thought it's been plans for longtime, to do convert->.realringtone.wav in SHR settings automatically
Jan 31 12:08:56 <DocScrutinizer> ~spank dos1
Jan 31 12:09:04 * apt bends dos1 over his knee and tatoos 'ibot' on dos1's pasty white buttocks.
Jan 31 12:19:00 <alabd> Heinervdm:  solved with opening mamnually but midori does not save passwords ?
Jan 31 12:19:42 <Heinervdm> alabd: yes it doesn't, you can midori guys for that feature
Jan 31 12:20:29 <alabd> Heinervdm:  thanks
Jan 31 12:32:50 <DocScrutinizer> alabd: how's life? happy with SSL?
Jan 31 13:03:19 <uzi18> hipitihop: thx
Jan 31 13:46:25 <alabd> DocScrutinizer hi to you thanks sure
Jan 31 13:47:01 <alabd> DocScrutinizer thanks god how are yu
Jan 31 13:47:07 <DocScrutinizer51> alabd: fine :-)
Jan 31 13:56:15 <UberNeo> for running the openmokontrol ..how do i allow the TCP/IP connections for Xserver
Jan 31 14:28:34 <F1re> who can say me how i can install android and SHR system on one freerunner smarthhone?
Jan 31 14:29:50 <DocScrutinizer> that might get tricky, as android afaIk doesn't support the config you'd need for a multiboot system
Jan 31 14:30:43 <DocScrutinizer> for sure you *could* tweak android so it matches, but I guess support for such enterprise is hard to find in this channel
Jan 31 14:31:36 <F1re> but Qi suppot multiboot, when i press AUX he found other kernel in other partition
Jan 31 14:33:01 <DocScrutinizer> obviously you could swap uSD for a SHR one, and boot SHR from that uSD, but then you don't have a full android system that moment. swapping back in the android card would change your phone back to a full android though
Jan 31 14:33:53 <DocScrutinizer> F1re: the problem isn't qi od uBoot (the bootloader recommended for multiboot with decent bootmenu)
Jan 31 14:34:34 <DocScrutinizer> the problem is Android won't by default share the uSD with another system. Android is greedy
Jan 31 14:34:45 <F1re> no
Jan 31 14:34:45 <DocScrutinizer> AIUI
Jan 31 14:34:56 <F1re> i have a manu partition on uSD
Jan 31 14:35:02 <F1re> many
Jan 31 14:35:13 <F1re> and android work fine
Jan 31 14:36:18 <F1re> and on SHR partition i have in BOOT folder the "disable" file..whet the Qi boot he seem this file and keep SHR boot and boot android
Jan 31 14:36:34 <F1re> and if i delete this file - the SHR booting..
Jan 31 14:36:53 <DocScrutinizer> so *what* was your question then?
Jan 31 14:37:07 <F1re> ))
Jan 31 14:37:29 <F1re> how i change system while boot?
Jan 31 14:37:43 <DocScrutinizer> use uBoot
Jan 31 14:37:49 <F1re> now, i can change system if it already boot
Jan 31 14:38:02 <F1re> but android not work with uBoot
Jan 31 14:38:12 <DocScrutinizer> duh, why?
Jan 31 14:38:31 <F1re> in instruction 
Jan 31 14:38:51 <F1re> Qi - standart android bootloader
Jan 31 14:39:11 <DocScrutinizer> sorry I don't see a single elementary feature of Qi that uBoot doesn't support
Jan 31 14:39:46 <DocScrutinizer> aand as mentioned above (really?
Jan 31 14:39:48 <DocScrutinizer> )
Jan 31 14:40:04 <DocScrutinizer> I'm not in to fix Android instructions or setup
Jan 31 14:40:36 <DocScrutinizer> but I bet that's not a mandatory detail to have Qi for android
Jan 31 14:41:01 <DocScrutinizer> from a functionality pov
Jan 31 14:41:55 <F1re> ehh
Jan 31 14:42:11 <F1re> thanks
Jan 31 14:43:20 <tomcatek> anyone knows if is there a possibility to run USB networking with neo on XP SP1?
Jan 31 14:43:40 <DocScrutinizer> there is
Jan 31 14:43:59 <DocScrutinizer> but windoof another domain I can't help :-S
Jan 31 14:44:02 <tomcatek> I'm downloading .inf from the openmoko wiki
Jan 31 14:44:03 <DocScrutinizer> check wiki
Jan 31 14:44:28 <tomcatek> but it's not working
Jan 31 15:43:48 <isamar> hi folks
Jan 31 15:44:21 <isamar> how much time takes calypso-moko11.m0 to be updated ??
Jan 31 15:44:40 <mickeyl> 3 minutes
Jan 31 15:46:47 <isamar> mickeyl: mine has much more...it should be frozen then...
Jan 31 15:46:52 <isamar> :-(
Jan 31 15:56:06 <pieterc> hey, I can't ssh into my SHR : doesn't accept black for rootpassword... did the rootpassword change to a default?
Jan 31 15:58:49 <pieterc> ok, just did passwd on my moko and works now ;-)
Jan 31 16:07:20 <alabd> How to see data recieve from internet in Bytes ?
Jan 31 16:09:48 <josch> alabd: you want to do a tcpdump?
Jan 31 16:11:38 <alabd> josch: humble want to know opening one page how much bytes recieves ?
Jan 31 16:12:01 <josch> alabd: from the http content length header?
Jan 31 16:12:26 <alabd> josch: from anywhere
Jan 31 16:13:01 <josch> so you want to monitor the amount of any network traffic over a specific interface
Jan 31 16:14:04 <josch> sry gotta go
Jan 31 16:18:05 <alabd> josch: how to know , how much bytes will be recieved when humble open a page e.g google.com
Jan 31 17:42:18 <alabd> hello , how to disable opening list of addresses when we write an address in midori 
Feb 01 02:39:14 * Psi notices that there is a gta01 image
Feb 01 02:39:22 <Psi> images even
Feb 01 02:40:12 <Psi> lots of thanks to whoever fix it up and made the images
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