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Feb 15 06:56:24 <hipitihop> although android specific, this may be of interest to someone http://theflashblog.com/?p=1758
Feb 15 07:05:42 <hipitihop> anyone know if this player is likely to run acceptably on shr or similar more standard distros
Feb 15 09:41:47 <Chabbrik> hey everyone
Feb 15 09:45:22 <graziano> hi
Feb 15 11:15:48 <cosmos> ~ $ mv /usr/local /media/card/
Feb 15 11:15:48 <cosmos> ~ $ mount --bind /media/card /usr/local
Feb 15 11:15:48 <cosmos> ~ $ echo /media/card/local /usr/local bind defaults 0 0 >> /etc/fstab
Feb 15 11:26:50 <cosmos> anyone used bind to link their NAND and uSD card running applications?
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Feb 15 12:03:09 <cosmos> ping radekp
Feb 15 12:42:54 <cosmos> or more radically:
Feb 15 12:42:55 <cosmos> ~ $ mv /usr /media/card/
Feb 15 12:42:55 <cosmos> ~ $ mount --bind /media/card /usr
Feb 15 12:42:56 <cosmos> ~ $ echo /media/card /usr bind defaults 0 0 >> /etc/fstab
Feb 15 13:23:24 <cosmos> radekp: don't try this:
Feb 15 13:23:25 <cosmos> ~ $ mv /usr /media/card/
Feb 15 13:23:25 <cosmos> <cosmos> ~ $ mount --bind /media/card /usr
Feb 15 13:23:26 <cosmos> <cosmos> ~ $ echo /media/card /usr bind defaults 0 0 >> /etc/fstab
Feb 15 13:23:33 <cosmos> that will broke your system
Feb 15 13:29:13 * azaghal waits for someone to actually do it...
Feb 15 14:52:35 <cosmos> ping radekp:
Feb 15 14:52:48 <radekp> cosmos: pong
Feb 15 14:53:21 <cosmos> radekp:hi
Feb 15 14:53:29 <radekp> cosmos: hi
Feb 15 14:53:41 <cosmos> I've tryied the ubin alternative making:
Feb 15 14:53:43 <cosmos> ~ $ mv /usr /media/card/
Feb 15 14:53:43 <cosmos> ~ $ mount --bind /media/card /usr
Feb 15 14:53:43 <cosmos> ~ $ echo /media/card /usr bind defaults 0 0 >> /etc/fstab
Feb 15 14:53:57 <cosmos> but that commands have broken my system
Feb 15 14:54:48 <cosmos> So I mean even if QtMoko on uSDcard is less reliable than a NAND install, I didn't see any other alternatives
Feb 15 14:55:00 <cosmos> actually
Feb 15 14:55:03 <PaulFertser> cosmos: defaults,bind probably?
Feb 15 14:56:08 <PaulFertser> cosmos: bind should be among the options.
Feb 15 14:56:52 <PaulFertser> cosmos: and "none" for the filesystem type should work
Feb 15 14:57:17 <PaulFertser> That shit is easily googleable...
Feb 15 14:58:34 <radekp> cosmos: dont mv /usr /media/card
Feb 15 14:59:35 <radekp> cosmos: unpack qtmoko-v19 on SD card and do fresh reflashing
Feb 15 15:00:30 <cosmos> radekp: ok
Feb 15 15:01:08 <radekp> if something goes wrong with SD card, you should still have working system
Feb 15 15:04:01 <cosmos> radekp: I'm agree
Feb 15 15:07:45 <cosmos> radekp: do you know why Navit takes endlessly to "wait for fix"?
Feb 15 15:08:20 <cosmos> radekp: do I have to add an external antenna?
Feb 15 15:08:41 <radekp> cosmos: you have to setup gpsd
Feb 15 15:09:18 <radekp> apt-get install gpsd
Feb 15 15:10:00 <radekp> in QX check using gps or setup gpsd manually so that it /etc/inid.d/gpsd restart works well
Feb 15 15:10:43 <radekp> with the manual way you'll need to setup correct GPS device which is /dev/ttySAC1
Feb 15 15:12:36 <cosmos> like that?:
Feb 15 15:12:38 <cosmos> # Default settings for gpsd.
Feb 15 15:12:38 <cosmos> # Please do not edit this file directly - use `dpkg-reconfigure gpsd' to
Feb 15 15:12:38 <cosmos> # change the options.
Feb 15 15:12:38 <cosmos> START_DAEMON="true"
Feb 15 15:12:38 <cosmos> GPSD_OPTIONS="-G"
Feb 15 15:12:39 <cosmos> DEVICES="/dev/ttySAC1"
Feb 15 15:12:41 <cosmos> USBAUTO="false"
Feb 15 15:12:43 <cosmos> GPSD_SOCKET="-G"
Feb 15 16:52:56 <uhsf> any update about running MeeGo on Neo FreeRunner?
Feb 15 17:09:23 <rozzin> uhsf: How can you run something that doesn't exist yet? :)
Feb 15 17:12:18 <uhsf> just trying to get your opinion here
Feb 15 17:12:28 <uhsf> this channel is asleep
Feb 15 17:14:22 <SpeedEvil> It's not implausible.
Feb 15 17:14:28 <SpeedEvil> If the RAM isn't too constrained.
Feb 15 17:17:09 <rozzin> There's already Mer.
Feb 15 17:17:45 <uhsf> mer is stagnant
Feb 15 17:18:04 <PaulFertser> uhsf: it's not stagnant, mer on FR might be but that's because nobody's interested.
Feb 15 17:18:10 <uhsf> the only reasonable choice for my fr is still shr
Feb 15 17:18:39 <uhsf> maybe archmobile soon if shr doesn't move faster
Feb 15 17:19:53 <rozzin> Exactly. ;)
Feb 15 17:35:06 <cosmos> who wants to try puredata on SHR?:
Feb 15 17:35:08 <cosmos> http://pd-anywhere.sourceforge.net/download.php
Feb 15 23:51:07 <davi> This is great news: http://laforge.gnumonks.org/weblog/2010/02/13/#20100213-six_weeks_to_bcch
Feb 15 23:59:32 <SpeedEvil> neat
Feb 16 00:00:49 <SpeedEvil> however - probably illegal to sell in many markets. 
Feb 16 01:02:36 <Kamping_Kaiser> would it be possible to use a laptop screen (9") attached to a freerunner? i assume power would need to come from outside the FR
Feb 16 01:03:36 <SpeedEvil> Almost no.
Feb 16 01:03:59 <max_posedon> with usb-1.1 its not easy task
Feb 16 01:04:07 <SpeedEvil> In principle it's possible - but as far as I'm aware all of the 'displaylink' USB->LCD adaptors don't support USB1.1
Feb 16 01:04:19 <SpeedEvil> I have a product that does this - but it's not built yet.
Feb 16 01:10:32 <Kamping_Kaiser> ok. thanks both. i thought it was worth hoping :)
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