**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Feb 21 02:59:57 2010 Feb 21 06:58:14 anyone Feb 21 06:58:16 ? Feb 21 07:06:02 Sorta Feb 21 11:41:28 anyone able to help me get navit working Feb 21 11:41:38 its running and ive downloaded a navit bin map file Feb 21 11:42:03 ive added a mapset into maps.xml but navit doesnt seem to see the maps Feb 21 11:42:05 what's the problem? Feb 21 11:42:09 comes up blank when it runs Feb 21 11:42:32 it sees the gps fine, shows speed and direction, just no maps Feb 21 11:43:10 basically followed this http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Navit Feb 21 11:43:28 Psi: you edited /usr/share/navit/maps.xml right? and you have no ~/.navit/navit.xml Feb 21 11:43:48 copeid navit.xml and maps.xml from /usr/share/navit/ into .navit in home folder Feb 21 11:44:13 then edited .navit/maps.xml to add mapset lines Feb 21 11:44:22 Psi: did you update xi:include to point for your maps.xml? Feb 21 11:44:34 how do i do that Feb 21 11:44:36 Psi: better to edit those files in /usr/share/navit directly Feb 21 11:44:41 ok Feb 21 11:44:50 Psi: opkg upgrade won't overwrite it.. Feb 21 11:45:12 Psi: and even better will ask you for merge changes if shipped config changed Feb 21 11:45:31 Psi: also check Psi: if it points somewhere, where you don't have map you can be confused Feb 21 11:47:05 found navit centre Feb 21 11:47:07 what do i do with it Feb 21 11:47:41 that's starting position so provide ie GPS coords for your home :) Feb 21 11:47:47 ah Feb 21 11:49:03 IIRC default value is near Munchen Germany.. so ie if you download map only for new zeland.. than you will see blank screen (instead of germany) Feb 21 11:49:12 yeah Feb 21 11:49:33 changed it to center="3652 S 17445 E" Feb 21 11:49:50 which should be Auckland nz, if im reading its format correctly Feb 21 11:50:10 and that second problem.. in navit.xml you can see Feb 21 11:50:33 so it will still include old maps.xml from /usr/share if you copy maps.xml and navit.xml to your .navit Feb 21 11:51:23 yep Feb 21 11:51:43 ive edited /usr/share/navit/maps.xml to point to my nz map file Feb 21 11:51:46 so it should be happy Feb 21 11:51:55 yes Feb 21 11:52:14 * Psi runs navit Feb 21 11:52:30 whats navitD in the menu Feb 21 11:52:45 navit with Display resource requested Feb 21 11:52:59 won't blank.. better in car with power supply Feb 21 11:53:02 ah Feb 21 11:53:16 ok, well i have a map of auckland Feb 21 11:53:18 :) Feb 21 11:53:39 im going to go outside to get a gps lock and play with it Feb 21 11:53:43 and without D is ie for walk/bike when you would rather tap screen to unblank and save a bit power for longer trip :) Feb 21 11:53:44 thanks for your help Feb 21 11:53:49 yw Feb 21 11:59:37 * Psi returns Feb 21 11:59:42 it appears to be working great Feb 21 12:00:09 just have one question, when it started inside (didnt have gps lock) the map was normal colored, but when i went outside it went all dark Feb 21 12:00:25 the main roads showed up bright, but the background color went black Feb 21 12:00:44 Psi: it's night mode. Feb 21 12:00:47 its night here, i was wondering if that was a feature, so the screen isnt too bright in the car Feb 21 12:00:58 ah Feb 21 12:01:23 ok, well its all working good then Feb 21 12:01:24 it gets time from GPS and adjust interface Feb 21 12:01:28 yeah Feb 21 12:01:39 will need to have a play on an actual trip in the car Feb 21 12:01:51 Psi: You have monday there... bad for You ;) Feb 21 12:02:20 not really bad, Feb 21 12:02:44 how come monday can not be bad? Feb 21 12:03:00 im working from home atm Feb 21 12:03:19 i dont really have a weekend or weekday, just as long as i do the work Feb 21 12:04:41 well.. if You put it that way.. :] Feb 21 12:41:23 hello, will there be a new Version of the Openmoko in future or is the FR A7 still the last one? Feb 21 12:42:45 as I know nobody heard anything about smth `next` Feb 21 12:43:38 hello max_posedon =) Feb 21 12:43:43 redarrow: openmoko - corporate - seems to have no interest. Feb 21 12:43:49 redarrow: in new models that is. Feb 21 12:44:08 redarrow: A new model would at best take a large slice of a million dollars to make. Feb 21 12:44:22 sure Feb 21 12:44:54 The n900 has largely decapitated the market - you have to come in well under that pricepoint. Feb 21 12:45:08 and maybe the world will not buy it because of palm pré and Android (google OS) Feb 21 12:45:23 Which is a huge problem - as to make a profit - your hardware has to be built for maybe half that. Feb 21 12:45:51 And hitting a $100-$150 or so hardware cost for a phone in small volumes (1000) is _hard_ Feb 21 12:46:02 even neglecting development costs. Feb 21 12:47:45 sure Feb 21 12:54:32 i'm afraid there's no immediate future for build-your-own-hardware projects; still we can make a difference with porting sane innovation- and contribution-friendly middleware to some of the anti-vendor-ports Feb 21 13:01:21 Psi: if you check menu->Display->Layout then switch from Car_Dark to Car if you like the previous theme more Feb 21 13:02:01 I'd like to ask if Bug 1024 is already solved (If I right remember this bug would increase battery life up to 167 hours) Feb 21 13:02:44 redarrow: AFAIK you need hw fix for that Feb 21 13:03:32 redarrow: http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=1024-Rework Feb 21 13:03:39 JaMa: and that means? I have to send it to someone and say "Hay I'd like to increase my battery life time"? Feb 21 13:04:21 redarrow: yes Feb 21 13:06:07 JaMa: is GTA02A7+ different to GTA02A7 ? And how do I know which one I buy, e.g. at pulster? Feb 21 13:08:18 AFAIK only Goldelico has gta02a7+ on sale Feb 21 13:08:57 02a7 has the buzz-fix, 02a7 has the buzz-fix + the #1024 fix Feb 21 13:10:01 but it's cheaper to buy the phone at pulster 230€ and do the hw fix at golden delicious 45€ = 275€ in compare to 299€ golden delicious Feb 21 13:10:21 ok, without shipment costs ;) Feb 21 13:10:52 redarrow: you get debug board for free Feb 21 13:11:49 JaMa: ah, ok - this changes everything ;) Feb 21 13:12:06 hi Feb 21 13:12:38 redarrow: well pulster has it for only 19E.. so not a big difference .. Feb 21 13:13:39 JaMa: sure, but I would have to pay shipment twice ... and than golden delicious might be cheaper Feb 21 13:42:09 how can I recalibrate touchscreen in SHR? Feb 21 13:56:21 tomcatek: rm /etc/pointercal.xinput && xinput_calibrator_once.sh Feb 21 13:57:07 tomcatek: or better rm /etc/pointercal.xinput && reboot Feb 21 13:57:47 JaMa: thanks Feb 21 13:58:27 i found xinput-calibration Feb 21 13:58:32 i found xinput-calibrator Feb 21 13:58:59 that's package name and should be installed by default Feb 21 13:59:26 it is :) Feb 21 14:24:27 after calibration axis are still reversed Feb 21 14:26:08 have anyone faced that issue? Feb 21 14:32:07 did you reboot? Feb 21 14:32:32 yes Feb 21 14:33:01 I'll try again Feb 21 14:36:47 when I run xinput-calibrator it works well, but after reboot axis are switched again Feb 21 15:43:21 tomcatek, I also get pbs with my touchscreen, the top part doesn't react Feb 21 15:44:38 tomcatek, I ran xinput-calibrator-once.sh and rebooted or restarted x without much success Feb 21 17:07:21 hello Feb 21 17:11:18 greetings. I simply cannot get any of the images to work on my neo1973 http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta01/ Feb 21 17:11:31 pretty much all of them fail to mount the filesystem after booting the kernel Feb 21 17:11:56 i have made a u-boot upgrade, checked my mtd variables.. checked boot vars.. Feb 21 17:12:11 i nand erase clean rootfs before every flash Feb 21 17:13:06 however i get a VFS Cannot open root dev mtdblock4, please append correct root option. Feb 21 17:14:00 mtdparts=mtdparts=neo1973-nand:0x00040000(u-boot),0x00004000(u-boot_env),0x00200000(kernel),0x000a0000(splash),0x03d1c000(rootfs) Feb 21 17:14:25 bootargs_base=rootfstype=jffs2 root=/dev/mtdblock4 console=ttySAC0,115200 console=tty0 loglevel=8 Feb 21 17:15:28 The kernel image i'm using is: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta01/uImage-om-gta01-latest.bin Feb 21 17:16:45 folken: you might want to try to boot from uSD Feb 21 17:18:17 PaulFert`: u mean untar the .tar.gz onto the uSD card and use that? Feb 21 17:18:42 folken: yes, after adding an appropriate menu item to u-boot. Feb 21 17:18:50 folken: that's easier to diagnose Feb 21 17:19:04 folken: and after the system booted you'll get a way to analise your nand problem. Feb 21 17:19:15 PaulFert`: thank you for the suggestion. I will try it. Feb 21 17:19:24 folken: hth Feb 21 17:23:37 folken: AFAIK all shr-lite images are too big for gta01 nand, are you sure it was flashed ok? Feb 21 17:24:02 JaMa: i had problems with some of the images.. i then tried the smaller ones the fso Feb 21 17:24:57 folken: ah ok, are you aware those are only console images without Xorg? Feb 21 17:26:44 JaMa: yes i am. it would have just been a proof of concept for me. :) Feb 21 17:27:06 and that's why I built those, so ok :) Feb 21 17:28:08 JaMa: oh btw. the http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/ipk/om-gta01/ is missing a Packages.gz Feb 21 17:28:58 folken: don't use testing :) Feb 21 17:29:05 folken: on om-gta01.. Feb 21 17:29:25 JaMa: just had some old testing variant on it, before all the flashing, and tried to update it. Feb 21 17:29:36 JaMa: and then i saw that problem. Feb 21 17:30:08 there are plenty of packages in it. just no Packages.gz Feb 21 17:30:30 in new shr-testing wasn't even config for Xorg etc.. I've added some default configs for gta01 later but afaik it wasnt merged/built in gta-01 Feb 21 17:30:49 so only at least partialy working image for gta01 can be from shr-u Feb 21 17:32:03 newer shr-t which spaetz is testing has all patches from shr-u merged.. and should be able to finish image build for gta01 (and thus generate Packages.gz in om-gta01 too) Feb 21 17:33:02 anybody tried this yet? http://neophysis.sourceforge.net/images/neophysis-testing/ Feb 21 17:34:08 sure somebody did.. I've read review in czech.. so you can see screenshots here.. Feb 21 17:34:20 http://openmoko.cz/index.php/blogs/read/20 Feb 21 18:14:30 hi Feb 21 18:51:27 hmm ok this works booting from sd.. Feb 21 18:51:42 the touchscreen calibration is the wrong way round.. Feb 21 18:51:57 it calibrates ok.. but the cursor moves up when dragging down. Feb 21 18:52:08 enlightenment crashes.. Feb 21 18:52:42 hmm no sshd or telnet daemon to get into the device. Feb 21 19:17:35 does SHR use shadow passwords? Feb 21 19:21:28 yep it does. created /etc/shadow and am now able to log in Feb 21 19:21:47 JaMa: do you know the freedom-status of the NeoPhysis distro? it looks pretty great but I don't understand the language on their website Feb 21 19:23:42 Rakhun: use google translate Feb 21 19:25:05 Rakhun, it's italian Feb 21 19:25:16 ok, thanks Feb 21 19:25:26 Rakhun, next week i think it will be out with dialer well working! Feb 21 19:26:17 pbaxter: are you doing the coding of NDE? Feb 21 19:26:32 vanous123, i do not code Feb 21 19:26:45 i'm reader in the moko italian forum Feb 21 19:26:58 pbaxter: i see Feb 21 19:27:21 vanous123, you? Feb 21 19:27:38 pbaxter: not even a reader in that forum :) Feb 21 19:27:57 vanous123, ;) Feb 21 19:28:06 pbaxter: but i tried installing it and put some screenshots out Feb 21 19:28:15 hi all Feb 21 19:28:28 vanous123, and? Feb 21 19:29:24 uff, the link with the translate is too long Feb 21 19:29:41 anyhow, here is the blog post: http://www.openmoko.cz/index.php/blogs/read/20 Feb 21 19:29:53 :P i read that Feb 21 19:30:04 (translated) Feb 21 19:30:17 it seems good, especially for screenshots Feb 21 19:31:05 i was amazed by the presence and some functionalty of linphone Feb 21 19:31:21 vanous123, you can try next week i think! Feb 21 19:31:36 pbaxter: yes? Feb 21 19:31:40 i also think so Feb 21 19:31:41 yes Feb 21 19:31:45 vanous123, yes Feb 21 19:31:49 1 march Feb 21 19:32:33 pbaxter: what is their experience with ofono? Feb 21 19:33:07 vanous123, they are all more happy than with fso Feb 21 19:33:35 lol Feb 21 19:33:43 me too... :P Feb 21 19:34:15 pbaxter: i didn't get GSM registered... Feb 21 19:35:01 vanous123, don't know Feb 21 19:35:04 i tried it long time ago Feb 21 19:35:14 pbaxter: not sure either, had no time to play around... Feb 21 19:35:30 vanous123, just try to reboot Feb 21 19:35:47 for the first boot is critical (modules, and making all things well) Feb 21 19:35:49 try reboot Feb 21 19:36:02 pbaxter: well, tried 4 times, at least :)) Feb 21 19:37:46 vanous123, don't know Feb 21 19:37:55 vanous123, which version are you using? Feb 21 19:37:59 shr one or the other? Feb 21 19:38:20 pbaxter: 3 days ago latest Feb 21 19:38:27 seemed like shr Feb 21 19:38:49 vanous123, don't know Feb 21 19:38:56 as i said i tried it a lot of time ago Feb 21 19:38:59 pbaxter: no worries Feb 21 19:39:02 vanous123, i don'0t know if they are ok Feb 21 19:39:09 just write on forum.telefoninux.org Feb 21 19:39:21 or send and email to me and i'll translate Feb 21 19:40:06 pbaxter: thank you. i think i will wait for a week, but then i will be traveling so this will have to wait, anyhow Feb 21 20:39:23 has some one the nand files that are on the GTA02 by factory ? because i didn't do a back up an overwrote them -.-' Feb 21 20:43:31 hi there. I'm using an up-to-date shr teting. When I try to delete the last sms it disappears from the message list but when I restart the phone it is still there. I have try to do it over a dozen of times and it always return. Can you help me with this?, pelase Feb 21 20:48:56 has someone got a backup of the Freerunners NAND?? i wrote some false files on it but i forgot to do a back up. Feb 21 20:51:31 MathisR: what exactly do you mean? Feb 21 20:53:49 i need the u-boot_env splash u-boot files Feb 21 20:56:05 hello PaulFertser, can i ask if you are using SHR as daily phone? Feb 21 21:00:02 pbaxter: i'm using debian with mad old shr apps Feb 21 21:00:18 PaulFertser, is it working well? Feb 21 21:00:23 pbaxter: no :( Feb 21 21:00:35 PaulFertser, have you tried las android? Feb 21 21:00:38 last* Feb 21 21:00:42 pbaxter: no, not interseted Feb 21 21:00:50 PaulFertser, why? Feb 21 21:00:58 pbaxter: android is not targeting free hackers Feb 21 21:00:59 :) Feb 21 21:01:16 PaulFertser, i know, but it's working well and there's a way to install debian onto android! Feb 21 21:03:20 pbaxter: i know but i do not care :) Feb 21 21:03:29 PaulFertser, it's ok! Feb 21 21:03:43 i never succeded in installing debian Feb 21 21:04:13 pbaxter: i did it the first time i tried, was fairly easy. Feb 21 21:04:15 :) Feb 21 21:04:25 Talk about perspective :) Feb 21 21:05:00 PaulFertser, i cannot install it to SD? Feb 21 21:05:28 pbaxter: debian is supposed to be installed on sd. Feb 21 21:05:35 It doesn't fit nand without deep tweaks. Feb 21 21:05:56 i cannot install to SD! Feb 21 21:05:56 it blocks sometimes Feb 21 21:06:00 every time i tried, it blocked Feb 21 21:10:49 i bought a bigger sd just so i could do it then never got round to it Feb 21 21:12:39 did some one do a backup of his freerunner as nothing was changed ß Feb 21 21:17:12 because my freerunner always has a kernel panic after i loadet a new u-boot into nand Feb 21 21:18:20 http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/a80e7e3fe1cd7e7146642962f91c5c60.png wtf? Feb 21 21:18:27 why did i get that? Feb 21 21:18:29 and who is roy? Feb 21 21:18:30 ! Feb 21 21:18:40 (shr-t) Feb 21 21:19:07 no prizes for guessing where i live Feb 21 21:21:31 shall i post to the lists Feb 21 21:21:54 everything sucks Feb 21 21:22:01 oh dear Feb 21 21:22:05 don't be sad Feb 21 21:22:17 everything is great really :) Feb 21 21:22:27 what's bothering you? Feb 21 21:23:05 tim_abell: can't find a spare meter of yellow UTP-5 cable i'm supposed to have around to make an artificial flower, and yes, i am insane. Feb 21 21:23:19 er, oo-kaay Feb 21 21:23:30 i'll email you some Feb 21 21:24:21 tim_abell: also my FR hangs every once in a while (lindy's reported this bug about GSTATUS4 register several times, but nobody has any idea how to debug that). And intel video drivers suck. And my bicycle suck and i suck and going to the store to buy proper spare parts for it. Feb 21 21:24:42 yay, bicycles Feb 21 21:24:51 Don't forget that winter sucks too. Feb 21 21:24:53 even crappy bicycles are good Feb 21 21:24:57 And my work sucks and i'm not that great at it and my students performing suboptimally etc etc. Feb 21 21:25:00 Everything sucks Feb 21 21:25:12 i thought that was what students were supposed to do? Feb 21 21:25:13 mwester: _my_ winter is great, i in fact enjoy snow and cold. Feb 21 21:25:55 I don't. But I dislike the heat and humidity even more. :) So I tolerate the cold winter because I like the spring and autumn seasons up here, and most off the summer is nice too. :) Feb 21 21:25:57 take heart in the blossoming of this project :) Feb 21 21:26:29 tim_abell, blossoms can suck too, if one has allergies, I suppose. :) Feb 21 21:26:37 All good i did this weekend is summarised in my "wifi" email :-/ Feb 21 21:26:37 i still want to know who roy is and what he's doing in my phone :-/ Feb 21 21:27:08 Wasn't roy the dude that got his head eaten by a tiger in Las Vegas a couple of years ago? Feb 21 21:27:23 i thought he was the guy of the IT crowd Feb 21 21:27:45 i fear if i press the button i'll get him asking my in his irish accent if i've tried turning it off n on again Feb 21 21:29:03 * tim_abell is completely pointlessly trying to get voice working for navit Feb 21 21:34:21 http://www.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/974 Feb 21 21:47:06 * DocScrutinizer notices PaulFertser is in a bad mood, and suggests taking a voluntary out time on "doing good things" Feb 21 21:48:02 fooey, navit is crashing in "internal" mode when i tap the map Feb 21 21:48:12 sh: gdb: not found Feb 21 21:48:14 helpful Feb 21 21:48:34 DocScrutinizer: any alternative ideas? I seem to know either how to do nothing idling or trying to do "good things". Feb 21 21:48:40 the internal gui is sooooooo much better but i've never had it work right Feb 21 21:49:01 PaulFertser: idle actively :D Feb 21 21:49:31 i find destructive diy theraputic Feb 21 21:49:39 do things you know will end in a failure Feb 21 21:50:32 or are meaningless by definition Feb 21 21:51:31 DocScrutinizer: i sometimes think my whole life perfectly fits this description Feb 21 21:51:35 on the upside i've learnt about fsoraw which is very cool Feb 21 21:51:57 tim_abell: thanks :-) Feb 21 21:52:09 * mwester prefers destruction, and puts aside failed hard drives for "special treatment" when he's in need of a mood boost. :) Feb 21 21:52:11 and tango no longer lets the phone go to sleep Feb 21 21:52:17 hurrah Feb 21 21:52:36 oh it was you was it? good work DocScrutinizer Feb 21 21:53:05 i never wanted a sat nav, but i can't resist using navit Feb 21 21:54:23 mwester: probably you can blow off the components from HDD pcb's and then they'll come handy when you need to solder some smd receptable or an ic. Feb 21 21:55:37 (blow off components) pizza oven :-P Feb 21 21:56:56 * mwester notes the excellent suggestion for the next disk drive. Feb 21 21:58:58 Actually, it all began when I had a drive containing important data (taxes) that failed. I decided I should destroy it physically before discarding it, and was rather disappointed in the results of a good beating with a hammer. So I have embarked upon a mission to find a hundred ways to destroy a disk drive. :) Feb 21 21:59:50 thermite Feb 21 21:59:55 oooooh! Feb 21 21:59:59 speech-dispatcher, where for art thou? Feb 21 22:00:24 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Navit#Speech Feb 21 22:01:53 i'm stumped Feb 21 22:02:03 the instructions say install speech dispatcher Feb 21 22:02:12 but there's no sign of it in the shr-t feeds Feb 21 22:02:56 not to mention there's lots of mails about the problems it causes with conflicts with other audio Feb 21 22:03:33 tim_abell: yes, they use some other program, not speech-dispatcher Feb 21 22:03:41 hrm Feb 21 22:03:55 i tried espeak Feb 21 22:04:11 i got two instructions out of it then navit hung Feb 21 22:05:15 flite -t 'hello' Feb 21 22:05:15 oss_audio: failed to open audio device /dev/dsp Feb 21 22:05:21 no dice with flite Feb 21 22:07:55 tim_abell: fyi you can use "aoss" wrapper for oss programs. Feb 21 22:08:11 tim_abell: or to modprobe kernel-level oss emulation Feb 21 22:08:19 erm Feb 21 22:08:26 /bin/sh: aoss: not found Feb 21 22:08:37 tim_abell: you lack package then Feb 21 22:09:01 alsa-oss? Feb 21 22:09:02 tim_abell: in debian it's called alsa-oss Feb 21 22:11:18 better... opkg install alsa-oss Feb 21 22:11:24 ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/$LIB/libaoss.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. Feb 21 22:11:24 oss_audio: failed to open audio device /dev/dsp Feb 21 22:11:59 tim_abell: change the script to provide a valid path. Feb 21 22:12:07 aoss is a script Feb 21 22:12:11 er Feb 21 22:12:13 okay Feb 21 22:12:33 so it is Feb 21 22:12:55 is a bitbake patch in order? Feb 21 22:13:08 or somethingg Feb 21 22:13:15 tim_abell: i guess if you report some actual information to the SHR folks, they'll fix it in OE. Feb 21 22:13:16 to make it work for everyone Feb 21 22:13:24 k, i'll start a bug Feb 21 22:14:30 http://www.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/975 Feb 21 22:14:52 not sure what else to add to that Feb 21 22:15:15 tim_abell: i guess that's enough. Did it work for you after fixing? Feb 21 22:16:07 haven't got that far... Feb 21 22:16:15 looking for libaoss.so... Feb 21 22:18:02 tim_abell: list of files in the package should give a hint Feb 21 22:18:13 Or rather an answer Feb 21 22:18:32 find /usr -name libaoss.so Feb 21 22:18:33 nada Feb 21 22:18:37 er Feb 21 22:21:05 /usr/lib/libaoss.so.0 Feb 21 22:21:44 from opkg files alsa-oss Feb 21 22:31:27 find / -name "*aoss*" Feb 21 22:33:13 yeah, i realised that after. duh Feb 21 22:33:21 http://www.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/975#comment:1 Feb 21 22:33:28 seems to remove error from output Feb 21 22:33:33 adding the ".0" Feb 21 22:34:26 hrmph my neo has gone all quiet on me nonw Feb 21 22:34:28 now Feb 21 22:34:37 btw loading the oss-compatibility kernel module is deprecated. Always should use aoss wrapper Feb 21 22:34:47 whoosh Feb 21 22:34:54 straight over my head there :) Feb 21 22:37:34 the oss compatibility kernel module creates a real /dev/dsp device, which is bad as it causes all kinds of deadlocks when used concurrently by serveral progs, or concurrently with alsa-aware progs Feb 21 22:38:02 aoss wrapper creates a virtual /dev/dsp exclusively for the particular app Feb 21 22:38:33 so did i do something bad? i'm confused Feb 21 22:39:02 I dunno. Just preaching about basics. Feb 21 22:39:25 mkay, but that's programmer stuff rather than user stuff, right? Feb 21 22:39:34 if you see a /dev/dsp* file, you did something wrong Feb 21 22:40:26 tim_abell: you did good Feb 21 22:40:50 if you always start OSS audio apps via "aoss app" then you're safe Feb 21 22:41:10 aoss flite -t "hello" Feb 21 22:41:15 woot, it spoke to me Feb 21 22:41:22 :-))) Feb 21 22:42:07 well, espeak is better at pronouncing "ponce" Feb 21 22:42:32 flite says "pon-say" Feb 21 22:43:12 coded in Texas? :-P Feb 21 22:43:16 heh Feb 21 22:43:42 i only looked at flite because it's mentioned in navit.xml Feb 21 22:43:48 i guess i can use espeak Feb 21 22:48:24 also: Feb 21 22:48:34 lsmod|grep oss Feb 21 22:48:48 must NOT show snd_pcm_oss Feb 21 22:48:51 nada at the moment Feb 21 22:48:55 i'll bear that in mind Feb 21 22:48:55 ta Feb 21 22:54:56 PaulFertser: tim_abell: http://www.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/975#comment:1 - missing depmod or whatever it's called? Feb 21 22:55:18 i'm not sure i know what that is Feb 21 22:55:22 DocScrutinizer: ldconfig Feb 21 22:55:29 right Feb 21 22:55:52 libaoss.so should be a symlink to libaoss.so.0 Feb 21 22:56:18 will you add that to the bug report or do you want me to? Feb 21 22:56:26 or do you want me to try stuff first? Feb 21 22:56:36 I'd prefer you do,maybe quote me Feb 21 22:56:38 i'm fiddling with navit again now Feb 21 22:56:55 okey dokey Feb 21 22:56:56 of course try ldconfig first :-D Feb 21 22:56:59 tim_abell: i'm not sure which symlinks exactly ldconfig is supposed to create and whether .so is among them. Feb 21 22:58:06 oh i have soooooooooo much more to learn about linux :-/ Feb 21 22:58:18 root@om-gta02 /media/card $ ldconfig Feb 21 22:58:18 root@om-gta02 /media/card $ ls -l /usr/lib/libaoss.so.* Feb 21 22:58:18 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Feb 21 22:09 /usr/lib/libaoss.so.0 -> libaoss.so.0.0.0 Feb 21 22:58:18 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 12504 Dec 7 18:27 /usr/lib/libaoss.so.0.0.0 Feb 21 22:58:22 didn't seem to do much Feb 21 22:58:35 :-/ Feb 21 22:59:31 folken: yeah, did you figure out how to get paste the calibration problem? Feb 21 22:59:33 I'm not so familiar with that shit either. maybe PaulFertser will come up with a more educated analysis in a moment Feb 21 22:59:51 Psi: in fact i did. Feb 21 23:00:05 good, i got the same thing too Feb 21 23:00:22 can be a bit tricky to get past Feb 21 23:00:24 comment added Feb 21 23:00:25 Psi: you have the problem that the axiss are roated right? Feb 21 23:00:38 huh? Feb 21 23:01:12 Psi: when you go up the cursor goes down etc. Feb 21 23:01:35 yeah, but you only get that during the first boot screen thing Feb 21 23:01:45 once you get past that and reboot it seems to come right Feb 21 23:02:02 hmm didn't fix it for me.. Feb 21 23:02:10 i had to use xinput to set that right Feb 21 23:02:14 although, i did try calibrating it wrongly a few times to try and correct it Feb 21 23:02:20 ah Feb 21 23:02:28 i changed the first 2 values of that string Feb 21 23:02:33 that fixed the issue. Feb 21 23:02:36 i think the apporch that finally worked was to not calibrate it at all, wait for it to timeout when it first asks Feb 21 23:03:20 http://www.x.org/archive/X11R7.5/doc/man/man4/evdev.4.html Feb 21 23:03:26