**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Feb 22 02:59:58 2010 Feb 22 07:35:15 www.search2.net Feb 22 12:22:31 * PaulFertser 's bought bicycle parts he needed, finally! Feb 22 17:19:49 larsc: hi, do you know please, how to power on modem with the latest 2.6.32? I used echo 1 > /sys/devices/platform/gta02-pm-gsm.0/power_on Feb 22 17:20:02 but after latest commits i dont see this file anymore Feb 22 17:22:04 radekp: dejavu Feb 22 17:22:28 i'm pretty sure you ask me about a few weeks ago Feb 22 17:22:37 and we found a solution Feb 22 17:22:37 larsc: maybe i already asked same question, but i havent found answer :) Feb 22 17:23:13 larsc: i found some other sysfs path that seemed like modem power_on, but it does not seem to work Feb 22 17:23:52 the modem power on sysfs node is still in the old place Feb 22 17:24:18 but you need mto compile your kernel with FIXED_REGULATOR=y Feb 22 17:24:31 and GPIO_PCF50633=y Feb 22 17:25:07 ahh oki, thanks, i'll try Feb 22 17:25:45 btw i my (a bit older) 2.6.32 kernel does not resume on incoming phone call, i will try the latest one Feb 22 17:28:06 hm. i think the modem irq is currently not hooked up Feb 22 17:29:38 oki, but the the modem power_on is strange, i have both CONFIG_REGULATOR_FIXED_VOLTAGE=y CONFIG_REGULATOR_PCF50633=y Feb 22 17:30:30 i have found this commit that removes gta02_pm_gsm_dev, but i dont know what i means ;) Feb 22 17:30:31 http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=commitdiff;h=0f934952e071d73916be967d44a150c408edf2cb Feb 22 17:34:58 the gsm device can only get probed after the regulator device for it has been probed Feb 22 17:35:13 see line 1116 Feb 22 17:36:17 could you paste the output of ls /sys/bus/platform/devices/? Feb 22 17:38:50 sure, in a minute Feb 22 17:47:06 larsc: http://www.pastebin.cz/32612 Feb 22 17:48:09 maybe this one is better http://www.pastebin.cz/32613 Feb 22 17:49:03 hm... looks good Feb 22 17:49:50 so, why is there no power_on entry? ... Feb 22 17:50:01 anyway. got to got now. bbl Feb 22 17:50:09 oki Feb 22 17:50:11 http://www.pastebin.cz/32616 Feb 22 17:50:26 i'll be back tomorrow Feb 22 17:50:28 thanks Feb 22 17:51:00 np Feb 22 19:21:00 +r Feb 22 19:28:49 hi Feb 22 19:29:21 any one know how to setup apt-get to install anything on u Feb 22 19:29:26 uSD* Feb 22 19:30:24 ??? Feb 22 19:33:54 *everything Feb 22 19:38:14 any one know how to setup apt-get to install everything on uSD Feb 22 19:38:23 ??? Feb 22 19:40:38 MathisR: chroot? Feb 22 19:41:33 how does that work + is this permanent ? Feb 22 19:42:01 or symlink all essential directories to uSD Feb 22 19:44:31 like in -s /whereeveraptinstallsfile/ /media/card/apps ? Feb 22 19:47:11 ? Feb 22 19:53:14 After this operation, 21.7MB of additional disk space will be used. Feb 22 19:53:14 E: You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/. Feb 22 19:53:20 ~optification Feb 22 19:53:21 methinks optification is a botch to reclaim space in fs root, done due to the fact the partitioning is FUBAR, or http://wiki.maemo.org/Free_up_rootfs_space Feb 22 19:59:27 can someone explain me how i can tell apt-get to put everything on uSD (for newbies)? Feb 22 20:00:01 MathisR: question #1: how did you manage to install Debian on NAND? Feb 22 20:00:11 hackable1 Feb 22 20:00:36 and its on NAND Feb 22 20:01:01 MathisR: i do not think debian supports moving arbitrary packages to arbitrary locations, so i'd say it's impossible. Feb 22 20:01:34 MathisR: i'd just run the whole distro from SD instead. Feb 22 20:01:59 PaulFester: i cant get is run from uSD Feb 22 20:02:31 MathisR: how come? I think if it runs from NAND it can run from uSD as well. Feb 22 20:03:24 PaulFester: if i put it on uSD it says Kernel panic : no syncing try passing init to kernel Feb 22 20:03:30 hi, I'd like to ask if someone has Twinkle running on his freerunner? Feb 22 20:03:50 not yet, alas Feb 22 20:03:53 MathisR: i guess that means you just do it wrong way Feb 22 20:03:58 MathisR: put hackable:1 on the sdcard, see http://www.hackable1.org/wiki/Installation Feb 22 20:04:54 PaulFester: my pc does not copy the uImage-GTA02.bin and other files Feb 22 20:05:10 PaulFester: i don't know why -.- Feb 22 20:05:46 uboot or qi? Feb 22 20:05:56 tried both Feb 22 20:06:41 PaulFester: my pc always says no permission Feb 22 20:07:04 try 'sudo -i' ? Feb 22 20:07:32 PaulFester: i did chown root and chmod on the package and uSD Feb 22 20:08:21 but i wracked my nand so im luky iths booting from nand some times Feb 22 20:08:43 i did no back up Feb 22 20:09:14 and now nothing really works Feb 22 20:09:30 -.- Feb 22 20:11:06 has some one a backup of his nand files an would load it up to rapidshare or whatever ? Feb 22 20:13:16 omg, you're really desparate Feb 22 20:14:04 MathisR: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_the_Neo_FreeRunner#Flashing_the_boot_loader_to_the_NAND Feb 22 20:14:41 there's not much you could delete in NAND. make sure you flashed the bootloader, kernel, and / fs correctly Feb 22 20:15:01 i got no u-boot_env Feb 22 20:15:04 or even better don't touch the bootloader at all Feb 22 20:15:17 ooops Feb 22 20:15:52 that's about the only part that gets a lil nasty to restore Feb 22 20:16:19 just a little though Feb 22 20:17:27 is that with nand erase;dynpart;dynenv set u-boot_env;saveenv ? Feb 22 20:17:28 does it work when you boot from NOR? Feb 22 20:17:38 not alway Feb 22 20:17:42 *always Feb 22 20:18:11 MathisR: you're talking something i can't understand. Feb 22 20:18:30 MathisR: probably you are not a *nix user... Feb 22 20:18:39 your prev Q: yes basically. though I doubt you need the nand erase dynparts stuff Feb 22 20:18:43 MathisR: no idea why you can't follow instructions to install H1 on uSD. Feb 22 20:19:19 (no offense meant) Feb 22 20:19:20 my cmd says always no permission no matter what i do Feb 22 20:19:38 PaulFertser: does Qi use bootenv partition? Feb 22 20:20:21 MathisR: you're probably using some wrong filesystem on uSD or mounting it from some wrong user or something like that. Feb 22 20:20:28 DocScrutinizer51: no, but Qi does calculate partitions every time on boot according to badblocks markers in OOB iirc. Feb 22 20:20:38 and if i format the card whith ext3 i can reinstall ubuntu because it's mounting an remountin all the time Feb 22 20:20:43 ok Feb 22 20:21:12 MathisR: to fix your bootenv issue the easy way: install QI Feb 22 20:22:14 i cant copy the tarball to the uSD because it says no permission, itried chmod , chown etc Feb 22 20:22:15 MathisR: this also relievesthe need of a small VFATmpartition on uSD for kernel Feb 22 20:22:42 mounted everything as root Feb 22 20:23:13 U need to cfdisk the uSD and create the partition(s) you need Feb 22 20:23:41 then run mkfs.ext3 for the first partition Feb 22 20:23:53 then mount Feb 22 20:24:01 ill try Feb 22 20:24:16 err eject and then insert and mount Feb 22 20:25:38 i did this with gparded (running as root) Feb 22 20:26:19 MathisR: sometimes MBR of uSD is messed up. even cfdisk needs an ignore parameter then to access the uSD Feb 22 20:26:55 I never used gparted Feb 22 20:27:16 so can't say anything about it Feb 22 20:27:55 i used a tool to change the mbr hexadecimal Feb 22 20:28:12 to write a allemby programm on it Feb 22 20:28:42 uhuh Feb 22 20:29:36 but i formatted it as fat32 about 4 times and fat is working completely (on windows and linucx) Feb 22 20:29:53 MathisR: ouch Feb 22 20:30:18 you can't reasonably use fat32 for rootfs Feb 22 20:30:56 what abuot FAT Feb 22 20:31:05 you NEED ext3! Feb 22 20:33:33 permission denied only means fat doesn't support the type of file you try to create Feb 22 20:34:06 on ext3 it says cant create symlink Feb 22 20:34:25 and some files are missing Feb 22 20:34:26 bah Feb 22 20:34:45 on FAT it cant create symlinks Feb 22 20:35:28 i even says that when i cp it on the ext3 uSD Feb 22 20:36:58 i'll be back in a second Feb 22 20:37:31 pease follow the several detailed wiki pages' instructions. I don't think any of them recommended to format the rootfs fstype VFAT Feb 22 20:38:12 and a lot of ppl succeeded with following the instructions. Feb 22 20:38:44 or short: RTFM Feb 22 20:38:55 :-S Feb 22 20:39:55 can you think of a reason why linux does not nocie my hard drives Feb 22 20:40:50 and after that windows stopped to notice them Feb 22 20:43:09 ??? Feb 22 20:44:10 MathisR: i can make up one: you lack kernel module for your HDD controller. Feb 22 20:45:30 but why does linux instead of dropping an error wreck my HDD'S Feb 22 20:46:03 MathisR: who said it wrecked your HDD? Feb 22 20:46:49 probably when it did, it's exactly what you asked for Feb 22 20:48:26 i pressed use whole HDD , then i waited , then my pc turned of Feb 22 20:48:43 and nothing worked anymore Feb 22 20:48:59 I don't buy that Feb 22 20:49:48 "use whole HDD" looks like installer option Feb 22 20:50:04 now i buy another one and they are only working in a raid system Feb 22 20:50:17 The guy looks like a ubuntu user :( Feb 22 20:50:24 Or troll Feb 22 20:52:26 Oh no, he's going to kick me for dissing lusers Feb 22 20:52:39 :-O Feb 22 20:53:47 you guys are pure evil! Feb 22 20:53:53 * JaMa should leave now :) Feb 22 20:54:01 /part uaaaa Feb 22 20:54:51 poor poor debian Feb 22 20:56:26 sorry, but I needed this to feel better Feb 22 20:56:37 your welcome Feb 22 20:56:58 u can kick me if u wanna Feb 22 20:57:15 anything to help u feel better Feb 22 20:57:22 I won't get offended as well Feb 22 20:57:48 if he kicks me right?!! Feb 22 20:57:55 :D Feb 22 20:58:07 :) Feb 22 20:58:10 I can start listing the bike parts i got today and you can kick me for offtopic. Feb 22 20:58:14 :) Feb 22 20:58:29 slaxxer: you need to improve your trolling skills a lot to earn a kick :-P Feb 22 20:58:37 awww Feb 22 20:58:42 and at least "wreck your HDD" XP Feb 22 20:58:44 slaxxer: or just join GNAA Feb 22 20:59:17 i have wrecked me Hdd but i fixed it like doc said many times Feb 22 20:59:32 PaulFertser: really? what did you buy? Feb 22 20:59:36 im still a linux noob Feb 22 21:00:34 pipes an 02 sensors? Feb 22 21:00:51 skull breather cover maybe? Feb 22 21:01:41 JaMa: i bought a new rear wheel, fully assembled: the rim (alex rims, double) along with the spokes and freehub, 8-speed shimano alivio cassete, alivio derailer and both shifters (non-combo). Feb 22 21:03:02 Along with the cable and appropriate amount of housing. Feb 22 21:04:05 PaulFertser: I have complete deore and especialy combos (brakes+shifters) are really not so good :/ Feb 22 21:05:14 PaulFertser: maybe newer models are bette but my ~3y old model is not much acurate and whole combo is trembling stupidly even on nice roads Feb 22 21:05:23 JaMa: i used to have sram with gripshifts on this bike, it is enough for utility cycling, but everything worn out + i really dislike freewheel (not freehub) system. Feb 22 21:06:27 JaMa: I do not like combos because i like my brake levers to be nearer to the center, to have longer lever for easy breaking with 1-2 fingers and cheap v-brakes. Feb 22 21:08:01 JaMa: in fact i was considering to buy a new MTB suitable for amateur cross-country they're really cheap here comparing to Europe. Feb 22 21:08:43 JaMa: i guess i can buy something with reasonable equipment and a suspension fork with lock-out for ~500EUR (especially considering winter sales). Feb 22 21:08:51 PaulFertser: I was looking on some really expensive XTR combos and the feel right.. but those deore I have are big plastic crap Feb 22 21:09:09 But i decided i do not need a new XC bike anyway and my old bike is less attractive for the thieves. Feb 22 21:09:28 JaMa: do you use cable disk brakes? Feb 22 21:10:02 PaulFertser: well here it's starting about ~1000EUR (considering what can be reasonable) Feb 22 21:10:54 PaulFertser: but bikes sold here are usually between 500-2000 eur.. so 1000 better lowend Feb 22 21:11:16 PaulFertser: yes, hydraulics were too expensive when I bought that bike Feb 22 21:11:41 PaulFertser: about a year later I would get better bike with hydraulics for the same price Feb 22 21:13:24 JaMa: what about this one, is it "decent" in your opinion? http://velomir.ru/cgi-bin/mainpage.pl?y=0&p1=&p2=&ex=0&sr=1&f=&m=48&c=27&lim=20&a=w&id=27060 Feb 22 21:15:46 JaMa: or even this one: http://www.velosite.ru/viewitem/45106/ Feb 22 21:16:42 The last one is with disk hydraulics Feb 22 21:18:18 JaMa: are you a racer? Why do you need MTB at all? Feb 22 21:19:43 not a racer at all.. just prefer bumpy ride in woods before lenghty road Feb 22 21:19:55 even the first one is decent Feb 22 21:20:31 Maybe I'm influenced already by people here buying expensive bikes even without using them much (not talking about needing them) Feb 22 21:20:58 the first one can be bought here for about 500EUR too Feb 22 21:23:34 well last big trip was in France and there we usually go on really well prepared bike roads and only for maybe 2 days in week we could enjoy MTB more than road bike Feb 22 21:52:45 omg, he actually was absolutely clueless. I'd have bet he's a troll Feb 22 21:53:49 [2010-02-22 21:48:26] i pressed use whole HDD , then i waited , then my pc turned of Feb 22 21:53:52 [2010-02-22 21:50:04] now i buy another one and they are only working in a raid system Feb 22 21:53:56 c'mon Feb 22 21:56:44 DocScrutinizer: is anyone telling you that you did it wrong? :-O Feb 22 21:57:10 yeah, him humbly complaining in #openmoko-de Feb 22 21:57:11 I 100% ack he deserved a kick (it's not a ban after all). Feb 22 22:15:29 shr-t / anyone know why launcher doesn't pick up changed in the .desktop files? should a file an shr bug? Feb 22 23:16:52 does some one know how to get the nand files that where on the freerunner by factory? Feb 22 23:19:37 depend on which version you had Feb 22 23:19:46 but I don't suggest it anyway Feb 22 23:20:23 gta02 A5 Feb 22 23:21:39 with the default files it worked and i can't use the uSD for the rootfs/kernel Feb 22 23:23:34 i need the u-boot and u-boot_env Feb 22 23:27:14 hm.. you can take newer files I think Feb 22 23:27:27 it will be enough, or ask on ML about this issue Feb 22 23:28:41 mathisr, have you installed android? Feb 22 23:28:48 no Feb 22 23:29:01 so, nand partitions wasnt changed Feb 22 23:29:58 no i tried to install debian Feb 22 23:30:10 and destroyed every thing Feb 22 23:30:17 *cry* Feb 22 23:30:50 i've got no u-boot_env Feb 22 23:31:18 and no splash wich doesn't really matter Feb 22 23:33:38 and because my last linux pc died i can't use the uSD Feb 22 23:40:10 one issue Feb 22 23:40:16 can you use NOR u-boot? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Feb 23 02:59:58 2010