**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Mar 20 02:59:58 2010
Mar 20 03:39:18 <Azuvix> Okay, finally got working with the FR today. QtMoko may be pretty, but it's not quite what I'm looking for.
Mar 20 08:20:17 <zeroedout> lol, that's why we have an sd card and QI
Mar 20 08:21:01 <zeroedout> bah, he's offline
Mar 20 09:36:53 <badcloud> can't wait til I get my debug b. in the mail so I can ressurect my fr
Mar 20 09:37:32 <badcloud> I gotta say, so far Golden Delicous comp. have been aMAzing with their constant package status email updates
Mar 20 09:37:57 <badcloud> I'm not trying to plug them or anything, I just haven't encountered anything like it before
Mar 20 10:43:50 <Psi> anyone know how you permanently disable auto suspend in shr?
Mar 20 10:44:15 <Hardy_> look into the tweak-section
Mar 20 10:44:35 <Psi> did, it says to put something into frameworkd.conf, but that hasnt working in a while
Mar 20 10:44:50 <Psi> *worked
Mar 20 10:45:15 <Hardy_> shit, sorry, dont know how to get that work
Mar 20 13:26:42 <pbaxter> hi all
Mar 20 14:01:07 <Orias_Korva> does anyone know of an easy-to-reach GND point on the FR's PCB, preferably on the LCD side
Mar 20 14:01:52 <Orias_Korva> will the little battery's "-" pin do?
Mar 20 14:05:28 <Orias_Korva> hmm, it seems the pads H1 and H2 are grounded, nice
Mar 20 14:06:42 <DocScrutinizer> the big golden rings around the mountgoles at corners are GND, as well as all the shielding cans
Mar 20 14:07:10 <DocScrutinizer> mountholes*
Mar 20 14:09:15 <Orias_Korva> ok, thanks
Mar 20 14:12:34 <Orias_Korva> can someone dd their /dev/nor for me?
Mar 20 14:12:39 <Orias_Korva> my nor is blank
Mar 20 14:13:03 <Orias_Korva> and I don't want to mess with my nand bootloader before I have a backup
Mar 20 15:17:50 <DocScrutinizer> wtf? you nuked your NOR?
Mar 20 15:34:22 <Orias_Korva> DocScrutinizer: my nor was blank
Mar 20 15:34:45 <Orias_Korva> I was one of the "lucky" few to have unflashed nor during the production
Mar 20 16:13:19 <Azuvix> Well, if that wasn't a tremendous waste of time. I'm not sure what I did, but SHR crashes on everything it does.
Mar 20 16:22:31 <DocScrutinizer> Orias_Korva: that's actually bad.
Mar 20 16:23:21 <DocScrutinizer> Azuvix: forgot to get matching modules for kernel?
Mar 20 16:24:25 <DocScrutinizer> Orias_Korva: you got a debug board?
Mar 20 16:25:08 <Orias_Korva> no, and I'm plnning to short NOR WP' pin to a mount pad to enable writing
Mar 20 16:25:21 <DocScrutinizer> aah, I see
Mar 20 16:25:36 <Orias_Korva> but also the nor image in the wiki is gone
Mar 20 16:25:46 <Orias_Korva> I need an image to flash
Mar 20 16:25:57 <DocScrutinizer> It seems we'd need wpwrak (werner) to propperly sort this out
Mar 20 16:26:48 <Orias_Korva> I got this advice before from Paul Fertser
Mar 20 16:26:57 <DocScrutinizer> PaulFertser: iirc you provided a nor image long time ago?
Mar 20 16:27:05 <DocScrutinizer> hehe
Mar 20 16:27:21 <Azuvix> Oh, sorry, didn't see the notice. I'm pretty sure everything matches up. I flashed it...
Mar 20 16:27:34 <Orias_Korva> but never had the chance to realize it until now
Mar 20 16:27:53 <Orias_Korva> and now, I forgot the image in my other computer
Mar 20 16:28:31 <DocScrutinizer> well, sorry I can't help atm, as I have no active FR around
Mar 20 16:29:03 <Orias_Korva> ok, no problem, I'll reach that pc in a few days anyway
Mar 20 16:29:11 <DocScrutinizer> Orias_Korva: I suggest to /join #openmoko-cdevel and ask there, if you know exactly what you need
Mar 20 16:29:28 <Orias_Korva> DocScrutinizer: lemme try, thanks
Mar 20 16:29:38 <DocScrutinizer> yw
Mar 20 16:34:44 <Orias_Korva> actually I can live with it, if I can boot Android with u-boot
Mar 20 16:43:33 <DocScrutinizer> well, I'd think you can boot anything you want via uBoot. But android isn't configured to be booted by uBoot
Mar 20 16:47:01 <DocScrutinizer> I heard they decided to tweak Qi bootloader for their special setup, so you can't even boot any normal distro with the special android Qi
Mar 20 16:47:52 <DocScrutinizer> actually - if that's true - this is a royal brainfuck 
Mar 20 16:48:10 <Wonka> I expected nothing good to come from android...
Mar 20 16:48:48 <Wonka> I still think there should be a way to run android apps on SHR, though.
Mar 20 16:49:17 <Orias_Korva> will probably need to port a big framework
Mar 20 16:49:53 <Orias_Korva> and rewrite graphics api to use x instead of frame buffer
Mar 20 16:49:59 <DocScrutinizer> anyway without NOR uBoot and without debug board you're pretty much busted whith Qi
Mar 20 18:26:53 <PBeck> hi
Mar 20 20:20:57 <badcloud> hey all
Mar 20 20:21:13 <badcloud> which distro is the most solid daily phone wise (calls, sms, etc)
Mar 20 20:21:15 <badcloud> ?
Mar 20 20:32:46 <UberNeo> PaulFertser, can u help me out in decompiling the zhone.edj ..i want this becuase my vibrator is not working on incoming call
Mar 20 20:52:54 <badcloud> anyone?
Mar 20 20:57:02 <Q-Master> badcloud: shr testing. I'm using unstable and everything works
Mar 20 20:59:19 <badcloud> Q-Master: thanks
Mar 21 00:07:17 <tim_abell> why would cron be using 94% cpu on my shr-t?
Mar 21 00:07:36 <tim_abell> it's clocked up 20 mins of cpu time now
Mar 21 00:07:49 <tim_abell> how do i find out what it's doing and why?
Mar 21 00:08:17 <tim_abell> cat /etc/crontab 
Mar 21 00:08:17 <tim_abell> */5 * * * *   /sbin/logrotate /etc/logrotate.conf
Mar 21 00:12:52 <badcloud> tim_abell: did you find out?
Mar 21 00:13:03 <tim_abell> nope
Mar 21 00:13:05 <badcloud> I'm curious if this is a common issue to look out for
Mar 21 00:13:55 <tim_abell> i reniced it and my choppy call started behaving
Mar 21 00:14:30 <badcloud> did you check lsof?
Mar 21 00:14:50 <tim_abell> -sh: lsof: not found
Mar 21 00:15:03 <badcloud> I'm sure you can opkg install it
Mar 21 00:15:15 <tim_abell> oh, it's dropped off the process list now
Mar 21 00:15:19 <tim_abell> wonder what it was up to
Mar 21 00:15:39 <tim_abell> well, off the top of "top" anyway
Mar 21 00:15:52 <tim_abell> load average: 0.46, 0.99, 1.03
Mar 21 00:15:56 <tim_abell> and falling
Mar 21 00:16:10 <badcloud> http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-testing/ipk/armv4t/lsof_4.78-r4.4_armv4t.ipk
Mar 21 00:16:16 <badcloud> just in case it happens again
Mar 21 00:16:53 <badcloud> then do lsof|grep cron
Mar 21 00:17:04 <tim_abell> okay, i'll remember that
Mar 21 00:17:04 <tim_abell> ta
Mar 21 00:17:09 <badcloud> np
Mar 21 00:19:57 <tim_abell> ok, installed
Mar 21 00:20:42 <tim_abell> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/192052/  lsof for cron, though i missed the 95% cpu
Mar 21 00:20:50 <tim_abell> opkg install lsof
Mar 21 00:20:54 <tim_abell> did the trick nicely
Mar 21 00:25:48 <badcloud> hmmm, I'm not saavy enough
Mar 21 00:26:07 <badcloud> but I'm sure you could post this tomorrow noonish and someone could help you out more
Mar 21 00:26:39 <badcloud> I'm off to bed
Mar 21 00:26:44 <badcloud> 'night
Mar 21 00:26:49 <tim_abell> gnight
Mar 21 00:26:51 <tim_abell> thx
Mar 21 00:46:34 <tim_abell> is the a cpu monitor for the top shelf in shr?
Mar 21 00:47:10 <tim_abell> there ^
Mar 21 01:03:32 <tim_abell> argh, what is going on with my calls?
Mar 21 01:04:24 <tim_abell> http://lists.shr-project.org/pipermail/shr-user/2010-March/004180.html
Mar 21 01:06:42 <tim_abell> it's completely intermittent so impossible to troubleshoot
Mar 21 01:06:58 <tim_abell> except when i actually need the damn phone, then it *always* does it
Mar 21 01:07:03 <tim_abell> gah
Mar 21 01:10:45 <tim_abell> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/192055/  - vmstat 1
Mar 21 01:10:52 <tim_abell> looks fine
Mar 21 01:10:55 <tim_abell> nrgh
Mar 21 01:11:35 <tim_abell> i'm going to be in the doghouse forever if i can't get this sorted
Mar 21 01:11:47 <tim_abell> anyone there who has any ideas?
Mar 21 01:11:59 <tim_abell> i don't get much time to look at this stuff
Mar 21 01:12:31 <tim_abell> i guess everyone is in bed tonight
Mar 21 01:12:35 <tim_abell> or out on the town
Mar 21 01:12:54 <tim_abell> seeing as it's Saturday
Mar 21 01:13:04 * tim_abell sigh
Mar 21 01:14:57 <tim_abell> argh
Mar 21 01:15:06 * tim_abell throws bloody phone out of window
Mar 21 01:17:51 <CVirus> wtf
Mar 21 01:20:06 <CVirus> tim_abell: did you really throw it out of the window ?
Mar 21 01:20:17 <tim_abell> lol, no, just feel like it
Mar 21 01:20:41 <CVirus> LOL
Mar 21 01:21:18 <tim_abell> fuck it
Mar 21 01:21:27 * tim_abell goes to bed in a *bad* mood
Mar 21 01:57:40 <DocScrutinizer> 1) audio of GSM calls is NOT related to CPU. So renice of whatever won't help. 2) I wonder wtf crond has to do on SHR, or on FR for that topic. It can not work properly on a system that's supposed to be in suspend most of the time
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