**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Mar 23 02:59:57 2010 Mar 23 03:42:29 * naquan 've just got back his contact list, thank to raul1 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Mar 23 11:58:15 2010 Mar 23 11:58:42 tomcatek, it does not work no map in navit yet Mar 23 11:59:16 JaMa|Wrk, what should be in usr/share/navit/maps.xml Mar 23 12:03:44 alabd: have you tried echo '' > usr/share/navit/maps/iran.xml as tomcatek suggested? Mar 23 12:04:12 JaMa|Wrk, yes Mar 23 12:04:30 alabd: but than you have to change enabled=yes in maps.xml in line above Mar 23 12:04:54 otherwise you can add those 3 lines you had before in iran.xml directly to maps.xml Mar 23 12:05:09 JaMa|Wrk, 3 lines ? Mar 23 12:05:21 there is just one line in iran.xml Mar 23 12:05:23 Mar 23 12:05:38 otherwise you can add those 3 lines YOU HAD BEFORE in iran.xml directly to maps.xml Mar 23 12:05:50 and there is not any maps.xml in default Mar 23 12:05:59 yes it is Mar 23 12:06:03 where? Mar 23 12:06:09 /usr/share/navit/maps.xml Mar 23 12:06:23 there is only /usr/share/navit/navit.xml Mar 23 12:06:32 and it includes mapset Mar 23 12:06:38 which navit version do you have? Mar 23 12:06:50 JaMa|Wrk: alabd have navit from Navit-project feed Mar 23 12:07:08 navit 0.2.0 3063 Mar 23 12:07:13 ahh :/ Mar 23 12:07:16 JaMa|Wrk: config files there are different then in SHR feed Mar 23 12:07:21 should humble remove it JaMa|Wrk ? Mar 23 12:07:25 tomcatek, ? Mar 23 12:07:42 alabd: but than you have to change enabled=yes in /usr/share/navit/navit.xml in line above Mar 23 12:07:55 ok w8 Mar 23 12:08:12 and iran.xml should contain 1 line yes JaMa|Wrk ? as tomcatek said Mar 23 12:08:35 not sure if navit from navit feeds still works, as we have really different libgps than what navit feed used (not sure if it's still the case) Mar 23 12:08:40 alabd: yes Mar 23 12:09:06 JaMa|Wrk, it does not show map at all Mar 23 12:09:11 but runs Mar 23 12:09:15 alabd: as and is clearly already written in /usr/share/navit/navit.xml Mar 23 12:09:27 yes Mar 23 12:09:35 alabd: how do you check that it doesn not show map? Mar 23 12:09:50 after running navit there is no map Mar 23 12:10:04 enabled=yes should be changed to enabled=no ??? Mar 23 12:10:55 do you want it enabled? YES, so enabled=yes is right choice Mar 23 12:10:57 Mar 23 12:11:18 this center atribute specifies what will be shown on navit start Mar 23 12:11:32 by default it's somewhere in Munchen Germany Mar 23 12:11:53 so if you didn't change it.. you don't see map, because iran.bin doesn't have map for Germany I guess Mar 23 12:12:33 so ? Mar 23 12:12:52 what should be done to make it deisbled Mar 23 12:13:10 so? what do you want to disable? Mar 23 12:13:21 Mar 23 12:14:01 you need it, just update position there to your home in iran or whatever Mar 23 12:14:20 k 4808 means 48.08 ? Mar 23 12:14:24 yes Mar 23 12:15:27 and it is lat? Mar 23 12:16:07 yes Mar 23 12:16:29 #$%^&, pisi gives me errors Mar 23 12:17:00 N means North, E East so clearly it's "lat lon" :) Mar 23 12:17:03 badcloud: use the gui, there you can ignore the errors Mar 23 12:18:18 JaMa|Wrk, no result Mar 23 12:18:26 does it required restart ? Mar 23 12:18:35 alabd: navit restart? yes Mar 23 12:18:49 fr restart Mar 23 12:19:18 alabd: what it shows in console? (pastebin please) Mar 23 12:19:36 Heinervdm: that's where it gave me the error Mar 23 12:19:46 JaMa|Wrk, nothing just navit:main_real:Using '/usr/share/navit/navit.xml' Mar 23 12:20:47 badcloud: you get sth like that? http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/745364d962c9798a55daf41d79bd90ec.png Mar 23 12:21:00 then just say yes Mar 23 12:21:59 nope, I get "I do not have enough data sources available/configured" Mar 23 12:22:22 JaMa|Wrk, zoom=256 is ok ? Mar 23 12:22:34 I tried example 2.7 http://github.com/kichkasch/pisi/blob/master/conf.example Mar 23 12:22:48 badcloud: you have to configure 2 datasources Mar 23 12:22:53 even ran remove_tel first Mar 23 12:23:03 ok, what's #2 Mar 23 12:23:04 ? Mar 23 12:23:19 badcloud: e.g. 2.8 Mar 23 12:24:46 JaMa|Wrk, tomcatek and iran.bin is 2.6 MB is it ok ? Mar 23 12:27:00 bit too small Mar 23 12:27:16 na ktory server Mar 23 12:27:40 wrong window :) Mar 23 12:27:51 Heinervdm: seems to be worked, thanks! Mar 23 12:27:57 *seems to have worked Mar 23 12:28:09 I'm using all europe, and it's over 700MB Mar 23 12:28:09 ôk :) Mar 23 12:28:44 tomcatek: i think there are not that many mappers in iran, so there are not that many informations Mar 23 12:29:05 Heinervdm: I don't need to reboot or anything, do I? all the contacts appear fine Mar 23 12:29:33 restart frameworkd should be all that's needed Mar 23 12:30:15 thanks again Mar 23 12:32:02 JaMa|Wrk, tomcatek fixed iran.bin was corrupted thanks a lot , how to use .osm file with navit ? Mar 23 12:33:31 just edit navit.xml to enable this map and You know the rest of the drill Mar 23 12:35:07 alabd: what do you expect from .osm map, except being much bigger? Mar 23 12:35:48 JaMa|Wrk, there some highway maps here in osm format http://downloads.cloudmade.com/asia/iran Mar 23 12:36:56 tomcatek, which one of these ? http://pastebin.com/UXF2qqp3 Mar 23 12:56:01 JaMa|Wrk, tomcatek thanks a lot for your guides god peace you byr for now Mar 23 17:45:21 does not midori save user and password ? Mar 23 18:28:30 JaMa|Wrk, Good day , navit worked today , but it does not work again now Mar 23 18:28:52 alabd: You broke it :P Mar 23 18:29:22 tomcatek, good day , what do you mean of break ? Mar 23 18:29:58 if it worked and doesn't work anymore it mean that You broked Mar 23 18:30:01 it Mar 23 18:30:13 what should be done now ? Mar 23 18:31:22 don't know what's broken Mar 23 18:31:33 navit runs but no map , setting are the same of before Mar 23 18:32:33 any logs? Mar 23 18:33:40 where is log file no one in home Mar 23 18:34:53 when You run navit from console then it gives some debug Mar 23 18:39:00 should my freerunner be detected with lsusb when it's displaying the boot menu? Mar 23 18:39:32 I'm trying to flash it, but dfu-util keeps thinking my bluetooth dongle is the freerunner Mar 23 18:39:56 TomaszD: try dfu-util -l Mar 23 18:40:09 or unplug the dongle Mar 23 18:40:19 Or try to flash OM on the dongle :) Mar 23 18:40:22 can't unplug, it's built-in Mar 23 18:40:24 Found Runtime: [0x0a5c:0x2101] devnum=2, cfg=0, intf=3, alt=0, name="UNDEFINED" Mar 23 18:40:32 which is my bluetooth dongle Mar 23 18:42:32 TomaszD: doesn't it show anything else? Mar 23 18:42:53 nothing at all Mar 23 18:43:03 this is worrying, right? Mar 23 18:43:10 yes Mar 23 18:43:36 but with lsusb it should be visible too Mar 23 18:44:04 I guess I'm gonna have to resolder the thing for the third time.. Mar 23 18:44:43 the usb receptacle got torn off, it's back on again and it's charging the battery Mar 23 18:44:51 but it seems not much else is working Mar 23 18:45:11 I'm gonna try another cable Mar 23 18:48:25 another cable, still nothing Mar 23 18:48:29 god damn it Mar 23 18:50:43 is dmesg saying anything? Mar 23 18:52:10 I just tried it in windows 7, said the usb device is malfunctioning Mar 23 18:52:19 and it's an "Unknown Device" Mar 23 18:52:44 DocScrutinizer, I screwed up, it's charging, but not getting detected Mar 23 18:52:55 I wonder which pins Mar 23 18:54:17 yeah, dmesg is panicking too tomcatek Mar 23 18:55:55 TomaszD: err sorry, missed backscroll (been offline) Mar 23 18:56:16 tomcatek, no error in CLI Mar 23 18:56:33 DocScrutinizer, I got Stskeeps' FR, I put it back together and it's only charging, but not getting detected Mar 23 18:56:52 alabd: is position showed on the screen in Your country? Mar 23 18:57:04 dmesg is in panic, windows says it's a broken device Mar 23 18:57:23 tomcatek, nothing in screen Mar 23 18:58:03 err, what means "not detected"? Mar 23 18:58:04 alabd: get a fix and see if something shows up Mar 23 18:58:30 it is fixed now Mar 23 18:59:47 DocScrutinizer, doesn't show up in lsusb and dmesg is panicking Mar 23 18:59:59 TomaszD: I guess you need a complete now system flashed Mar 23 19:00:03 tomcatek, is it better to install it from shr feeds ? Mar 23 19:00:22 alabd: You will get more help here Mar 23 19:00:39 TomaszD: aiui stskeeps hasn't updated for months, if at all Mar 23 19:00:50 DocScrutinizer, yes but I can't flash it man, it doesn't get detected Mar 23 19:00:53 ok thanks tomcatek Mar 23 19:01:22 DocScrutinizer, only charging works via USB, nothing else Mar 23 19:01:28 TomaszD: please read about flashing procedure. Your msitaken on "detection" Mar 23 19:01:44 you're Mar 23 19:02:00 DocScrutinizer, so it's normal that dmesg throws hundreds of errors and windows says they device is broken and unkown? Mar 23 19:02:04 *unknown Mar 23 19:02:05 TomaszD: " dmesg is panicking" ??? Mar 23 19:02:12 yes Mar 23 19:02:21 TomaszD: what do you mean? Kernel panic on host? Mar 23 19:02:38 http://paste-it.net/public/bf31a37/ Mar 23 19:02:45 TomaszD: while you simply plug the device while it booted to NOR? Mar 23 19:03:01 yes indeed Mar 23 19:03:21 nah Mar 23 19:03:36 TomaszD: looks like either the cable is bad, or the usb receptable on FR broken. Mar 23 19:03:47 the receptacle is Mar 23 19:03:59 cables are fine Mar 23 19:05:04 TomaszD: the receptable is broken, you see it? Mar 23 19:05:19 he "fixed" it Mar 23 19:05:28 was completely off PCB Mar 23 19:06:45 http://picasaweb.google.com/dominikowski/DropBox?authkey=Gv1sRgCNyqhN_S7vXHfw# Mar 23 19:08:48 the thing is I don't see what's wrong with it, honestly Mar 23 19:08:55 it's well aligned, everything seems ok Mar 23 19:09:16 which pins are for data? Mar 23 19:11:17 2,3 IIRC Mar 23 19:11:35 tomcatek, from shr feed installed now Mar 23 19:11:50 editing maps.xml is enough yes ? Mar 23 19:12:15 alabd: should do Mar 23 19:12:18 hey all Mar 23 19:12:31 hey tomcatek. got pisi to work finally Mar 23 19:12:36 :) Mar 23 19:12:46 but like always, there's aNOther thing Mar 23 19:13:02 modprobe snd-pcm-oss ---> FATAL: Module snd_pcm_oss not found Mar 23 19:13:24 GOOOOOD Mar 23 19:13:41 OSS kis sooo deprecated Mar 23 19:13:43 DocScrutinizer: ? I need that to get gtick to work Mar 23 19:13:44 tomcatek, seems works fine thanks Mar 23 19:13:50 I *know* it is Mar 23 19:13:56 but gtick will not tick without it Mar 23 19:13:59 eh? why not use aoss Mar 23 19:14:19 modprobe snd-pcm-aoss? Mar 23 19:14:28 aoss Mar 23 19:14:54 ok, one sec Mar 23 19:15:13 how to use .osm maps here http://downloads.cloudmade.com/asia/iran with navit ? Mar 23 19:15:28 DocScrutinizer: I don't hve aoss Mar 23 19:15:42 neither does opkg apearantly Mar 23 19:15:46 apperantly* Mar 23 19:15:54 that's kinda bug actually - err distro maintainer fault Mar 23 19:16:07 f*ck Mar 23 19:16:12 any way to install it? Mar 23 19:16:20 it's in some other pckg Mar 23 19:16:31 wait a minute Mar 23 19:16:34 sure Mar 23 19:16:58 jr@halley:~> cat `which aoss` Mar 23 19:17:00 #!/bin/sh Mar 23 19:17:01 set -vx Mar 23 19:17:03 # A simple script to facilitate the use of the OSS compatibility library. Mar 23 19:17:04 # Usage: Mar 23 19:17:06 # aoss Mar 23 19:17:07 if [ -d /proc/asound ]; then Mar 23 19:17:09 prefix=/usr Mar 23 19:17:10 exec_prefix=/usr Mar 23 19:17:12 LD_PRELOAD=${exec_prefix}/\$LIB/libaoss.so${LD_PRELOAD:+:$LD_PRELOAD} exec "$@" Mar 23 19:17:13 else Mar 23 19:17:15 exec "$@" Mar 23 19:17:16 fi Mar 23 19:17:18 exit 1 Mar 23 19:17:38 wow, I'll give it a shot Mar 23 19:18:45 this is desktop version, as you can tell easily Mar 23 19:19:36 dunno which packet provides libaoss.so and aoss script Mar 23 19:20:19 DocScrutinizer: ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/$LIB/libaoss.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. Mar 23 19:20:23 should be included in the SHR versions that got snd-pcm-aoss.so neutered Mar 23 19:20:28 whoops, you beat me to the punch Mar 23 19:23:44 soooooooooo, where is libaoss.so available? Mar 23 19:24:37 or is there another workaround? Mar 23 19:24:52 nope Mar 23 19:25:15 F*CK Mar 23 19:25:28 for OSS (/dev/dsp) nased audio apps there's just snd-pcm-aoss and aoss Mar 23 19:25:38 based even Mar 23 19:26:00 then where can I get snd-pcm-oss? Mar 23 19:26:52 well, seems it's equaly difficult to anser both questions, so I'd suggest you give libaoss.so a shot first Mar 23 19:27:17 (and honestly I fear both are same pkg) Mar 23 19:27:33 ok, I'll give all three a try on qtmoko's rootfs Mar 23 19:33:42 mrmoku: could you check back with badcloud about particular distro/version, kernel & alsa config used Mar 23 19:35:57 * mrmoku reads backlog Mar 23 19:37:01 badcloud: what distro do you have installed? Mar 23 19:39:28 hi, are there problems with the community mailing list? Mar 23 19:40:20 DocScrutinizer: might be libao-oss ? Mar 23 19:40:32 yup Mar 23 19:40:39 /usr/lib/ao/plugins-2/liboss.so Mar 23 19:40:42 is what it contains Mar 23 19:40:47 Bus 007 Device 028: ID 1d50:5119 OpenMoko, Inc. Mar 23 19:40:51 weee! Mar 23 19:40:59 nah, libaoss.so Mar 23 19:41:37 TomaszD: heh :-D Mar 23 19:41:40 Kiwi: Martix: hi Mar 23 19:41:42 Kiwi: is it just me, or the "community" ml is broken? Mar 23 19:41:44 Kiwi: I sent a message and it never arrived Mar 23 19:41:46 Martix: same as openmoko-kernel :-/ Mar 23 19:41:48 Kiwi: I found an alternative bass fix Mar 23 19:41:50 Kiwi: and I cannot publish it :( Mar 23 19:41:52 Martix: ok Mar 23 19:41:54 Martix: why you cannot publish it? Mar 23 19:41:56 Kiwi: I mean, the mail don't get through Mar 23 19:41:58 Kiwi: *does Mar 23 19:42:00 Martix: oh I see :-) Mar 23 19:42:02 Kiwi: it's a 0 component fix :D Mar 23 19:42:04 Martix: just asked on #openmoko-cdevel about MLs Mar 23 19:42:06 Martix: they didnt realised this problem until now :-) Mar 23 19:42:08 Kiwi: lol Mar 23 19:43:25 mrmoku: latest shr-t Mar 23 19:43:56 badcloud: ok, will check why it is missing Mar 23 19:45:12 mrmoku: anything to do in the meantime? Mar 23 19:45:51 badcloud: probably not :/ Mar 23 19:46:30 dang Mar 23 19:46:55 otherwise I'm stuck with trying to find out why qtmoko drains the battery so quickly Mar 23 19:47:05 badcloud: mrmoku is fast like lightning Mar 23 19:47:16 DocScrutinizer: haha, cool Mar 23 19:47:49 * badcloud is watching Rocky Horror Picture Show in the meantime Mar 23 19:48:09 badcloud: hmm Mar 23 19:48:19 badcloud: opkg install alsa-oss does not work? Mar 23 19:48:33 or is that one missing the lib? Mar 23 19:48:42 probably that's the package contaning both libs Mar 23 19:48:52 * mrmoku installs to see Mar 23 19:49:32 we'd like to keep libaoss.so and aoss script, but we don't want snd-pcm-aoss Mar 23 19:49:59 badcloud: yes, alsa-oss is all you need... and that already is in testing Mar 23 19:50:07 DocScrutinizer: SHR distr maintainers do *not* suck ;) Mar 23 19:50:09 (normally) Mar 23 19:50:41 one sec Mar 23 19:50:45 mrmoku: I never said anything remotely similar to that Mar 23 19:50:49 :P Mar 23 19:50:51 downloading as we speak Mar 23 19:52:17 what was that supposed to cover, snd-pcm-oss or libaoss.so? Mar 23 19:52:34 aoss gtick reported libaoss.so to be missing Mar 23 19:52:48 modprobe said it couldn't find snd-pcm-oss Mar 23 19:52:57 [2010-03-23 20:42:02] Kiwi: it's a 0 component fix :D Mar 23 19:53:13 Just some clarification. If my FR isn't reading a card that it SHOULD support perfectly, can that refer to the card not making contact like it's supposed to? Mar 23 19:54:31 * DocScrutinizer fetching the big gun Mar 23 19:55:01 Oh dear... Mar 23 19:55:01 DocScrutinizer and mrmoku, got it Mar 23 19:55:20 the aoss exec file you sent me was missing an '0' in libaoss.so Mar 23 19:55:22 badcloud: got what? Mar 23 19:55:25 (libaoss.so.0) Mar 23 19:55:36 alsa-oss package provided the right lib Mar 23 19:55:47 yeah, told ya it's from desktop Mar 23 19:56:07 well, I guess I didn't know what that *really* meant Mar 23 19:56:11 :P Mar 23 19:56:35 but actually those symlinks should be installed by the postinstall script of the pkg Mar 23 19:56:51 I'll just opkg remove install to get things kosher Mar 23 19:56:56 it's not the script that's wrong, it's a missing symlink Mar 23 19:57:39 DocScrutinizer: in OE the links without the .0 at the end are in -dev packages Mar 23 19:57:44 don't ask me why Mar 23 19:57:52 postinstall script should call ldconfig, and ldconfig should create the symlinks Mar 23 19:58:10 tomcatek, how to search a street name in navit ? Mar 23 19:58:13 aiui Mar 23 19:58:31 OE is soooo... ³³½¬←”@ŋ½{½[€ŧnðjn←ŧ Mar 23 19:59:09 but it's much easier to package sth for OE as e.g. for debian Mar 23 19:59:35 bah humbug that was tedious Mar 23 19:59:45 thanks though, DocScrutinizer, mrmoku Mar 23 19:59:54 back to RHPS Mar 23 20:00:00 azuvix a drive-by-asker? >:-( Mar 23 20:00:11 badcloud: np Mar 23 20:03:20 alabd: menu -> action -> town Mar 23 20:04:05 tomcatek, yes then ? Mar 23 20:04:33 tomcatek, iran selected then ? Mar 23 20:05:02 alabd: country ->city -> street Mar 23 20:06:10 tomcatek, you mean humle should first write city name in english ? then street ? Mar 23 20:06:23 yep Mar 23 20:14:36 tomcatek, anyway does not work how about speech where should be run ? Mar 23 20:25:35 which SHR profile should I choose? Mar 23 20:26:31 illume-shr Mar 23 20:27:14 ok Mar 23 20:27:38 looking good Mar 23 20:38:06 God peace you bye Mar 23 20:44:18 TomaszD: now that sounds better :-D Mar 23 20:44:52 some of the menus are incomprehensible Mar 23 20:45:06 hehe, nevermind Mar 23 20:45:59 now all I get is a white screen Mar 23 20:46:00 hmm Mar 23 20:46:33 first boot? Mar 23 20:46:45 well, yes Mar 23 20:46:53 it went into suspend as I was typing here Mar 23 20:46:59 and when I tried to get it back Mar 23 20:47:00 might take some minutes to initialize shit Mar 23 20:47:02 it's all white Mar 23 20:47:11 no no, things were running Mar 23 20:47:41 hmm, there's still some issues with the new xorg glamo driver maybe Mar 23 20:47:52 suspend&resume should fix it Mar 23 20:48:52 I just took out the battery Mar 23 20:49:11 which brings me to another point, do I always have to through the boot menu? Mar 23 20:49:17 hmmm, a 8sec powerbutton press should have done better Mar 23 20:49:18 the power button alone doesn't do anything Mar 23 20:49:22 oh, ok Mar 23 20:49:36 have to go through* Mar 23 20:50:22 well that's config dependent, no idea how recent SHR is handling that Mar 23 20:56:42 screen can take a while to appear on the first boot.. Illume's background is also white, so it can look scary Mar 23 20:58:06 TomaszD: which kernel are you using? Mar 23 20:58:34 I don't know, the most recent in testing Mar 23 21:05:18 should I enable composite? and which default engine to choose? Mar 23 21:11:25 TomaszD: "software" is the best, composite shouldn't make much difference, probably slowing things down quite a lot Mar 23 22:33:21 does anybody know how I can get python-lxml installed on SHR? Mar 23 22:33:46 can't seem to find it in the repositories, but libxml2 is installed already. Mar 23 23:11:42 is it normal that the FR gets rather warm? Mar 23 23:12:36 TomaszD: depends on the usage. Mar 23 23:12:39 I got that sometimes when GPS is on. Mar 23 23:13:00 ok Mar 23 23:13:09 and during charging I guess it's normal? Mar 23 23:13:14 TomaszD: i recently had it warm not noticing and not understanding why. It got completely discharged in short time. After that all was fine. Mar 23 23:13:19 :) Mar 23 23:13:51 ok, I think I'm going to try android next Mar 23 23:14:32 hi from my FR Mar 23 23:15:25 PaulFertser: MMC regulator left switched on, and no SD card in? Mar 23 23:15:38 Weiss: LOL, no Mar 23 23:16:01 (because the symptoms exactly match...) Mar 23 23:16:28 although anything shorted+left powered would cause that kind of thing **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Mar 24 02:59:57 2010