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Mar 25 06:22:54 <jaacoppi> ./configure && make && make install ?
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Mar 25 17:41:13 <DocScrutinizer> ~botsnack
Mar 25 17:41:14 <apt> aw, gee, DocScrutinizer
Mar 25 21:19:30 <tim_abell> nrg.
Mar 25 21:19:40 <tim_abell> i can't get start-stop-daemon --test to behave
Mar 25 21:21:25 <tim_abell> ah, got it
Mar 25 22:01:35 <tim_abell> hurrah, i've sorted out omnewrotate to not be so annoying
Mar 25 22:03:30 <tim_abell> http://www.timwise.co.uk/om/omnewrotate-init.tar.gz
Mar 25 22:03:41 <tim_abell> converted to proper service
Mar 25 22:04:12 <tim_abell> also need to: rm -f /etc/apm/suspend.d/11omnewrotate-suspend /etc/apm/resume.d/89omnewrotate-resume
Mar 25 22:04:26 <tim_abell> right, who do i talk to to get the shr package updated with my changes?
Mar 25 22:04:53 <tim_abell> i gather i'm not the only one who found the crazy auto-restart after resume annoying
Mar 25 22:05:25 <tim_abell> the tgz is replacement files for the opkg
Mar 25 22:05:27 <DocScrutinizer> first with a number of devels reviewing and confirming it. Then with mrmoku
Mar 25 22:05:48 <tim_abell> is anyone particularly interested in omnewrotate?
Mar 25 22:05:56 <DocScrutinizer> /join #openmoko-cdevel
Mar 25 22:06:13 <tim_abell> ooh, a promotion :D
Mar 25 22:06:45 <tim_abell> i'll send details to the mailing list
Mar 25 22:06:57 <DocScrutinizer> or that
Mar 25 22:08:00 <DocScrutinizer> anyway tweaking /etc/apm/*/foo is a developer thing. See topic regarding developers
Mar 25 22:08:18 <tim_abell> so i should send it to the devel list, right?
Mar 25 22:08:33 <DocScrutinizer> espif you're thinking of getting your tweaks into the distro
Mar 25 22:12:04 <tim_abell> i can't send attachments can i?
Mar 25 22:14:03 <DocScrutinizer> dunno, I'm not checking the SHR MLs
Mar 25 22:15:16 <DocScrutinizer> I'd duggest /join #openmoko-cdevel and sort out abot it in direct chat
Mar 25 22:16:57 <DocScrutinizer> as I seem to remember there's been some reason to add omnewrotate to the suspend/resume management
Mar 25 22:21:46 <tim_abell> i'll take your word for it, but it works a damn sight better for me without it :)
Mar 25 22:21:58 <tim_abell> it's unusable for me in the default state
Mar 25 22:22:36 <tim_abell> when the phone resumes to ring, the rotate always kicks in and the answer button doesn't stop moving!
Mar 25 22:22:47 <tim_abell> cos taking it out of my pocket = rotate
Mar 25 22:23:02 <tim_abell> i prefer to have it not autorotate unless i want it
Mar 25 22:23:23 <DocScrutinizer> tim_abell: we seen quite a number of changes with xorg and format/rotation recently. All the omnewrotate might be legacy from old times
Mar 25 22:23:44 <tim_abell> that's as maybe but i haven't seen anything better yet
Mar 25 22:24:12 <tim_abell> my mail has hit the lists
Mar 25 22:24:16 <DocScrutinizer> s/might/apm handling might/
Mar 25 22:24:18 <apt> DocScrutinizer meant: tim_abell: we seen quite a number of changes with xorg and format/rotation recently. All the omnewrotate apm handling might be legacy from old times
Mar 25 22:24:19 <tim_abell> off to walk the dog now
Mar 25 22:26:40 <Bane^> tim_abell, you can disable autostart after resume in /etc/default/omnewrotate.conf already
Mar 25 22:28:04 <tim_abell> doesn't seem to have any effect
Mar 25 22:28:18 <Bane^> it does on my shr :)
Mar 25 22:28:24 <tim_abell> oh okay
Mar 25 22:28:29 <tim_abell> maybe i didn't try that right
Mar 25 22:28:40 <tim_abell> can i suggest the default should at least be "no"
Mar 25 22:28:47 <tim_abell> as it is a terrible feature
Mar 25 22:28:54 <Bane^> agreed
Mar 25 22:29:00 <tim_abell> it would be ok if everything worked perfectly
Mar 25 22:29:13 <tim_abell> but it's too slow sometimes (when trying to answer a call)
Mar 25 22:29:22 <tim_abell> and not everything renders right sideways
Mar 25 22:29:27 <tim_abell> (though improving)
Mar 25 22:29:45 <tim_abell> it is also annoying that the threshold for rotation is 45 deg
Mar 25 22:29:57 <tim_abell> should be much nearer horizontal / vertical, say 80 deg
Mar 25 22:30:11 <tim_abell> so that it doesn't rotate unless you really do want it sideways
Mar 25 22:30:22 <tim_abell> it's forever flicking when i don't want it to
Mar 25 22:30:53 <Bane^> yeah, picking up the phone makes it rotate couple of times. it is too sensitive
Mar 25 22:30:56 <tim_abell> i also thought the supplied scripts were pretty nasty compared to using the init system
Mar 25 22:31:16 <tim_abell> lots of ps | grep | awk rather than normal init.d stuff
Mar 25 22:31:28 <tim_abell> i've converted it to use start-stop-daemon
Mar 25 22:31:37 <tim_abell> much neater
Mar 25 22:32:04 <tim_abell> i really am going now, honest
Mar 25 22:32:23 <tim_abell> i hope no-one thinks me rude, i am just trying to improve things
Mar 25 22:32:36 <tim_abell> and am most grateful to the authors/packagers of omnewrotate
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