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Apr 15 04:51:44 <Slaxxed> i68 i9 is a Chinese mfg,d that can be had   90 dollars with wifi an a cheappppppp cam
Apr 15 04:54:24 <Slaxxed> cam  on the "without wifi" unit i9   is    really  bad, ..wifi units have f/r dual camcam on 
Apr 15 04:54:36 <Slaxxed> -on
Apr 15 05:01:04 <Slaxxed> fm radio is great  an works well with gsm
Apr 15 05:01:34 <Slaxxed> dual simcard
Apr 15 05:02:09 <Slaxxed>  those features are nearly  a give now 
Apr 15 05:09:25 <Slaxxed> so please include those features in the " CORE2  Project model  "  after u get the politics sorted out on the "core1 "project
Apr 15 05:16:26 <DocScrutinizer> ~botsnack
Apr 15 05:16:53 <apt> Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of docscrutinizer)
Apr 15 05:17:35 <Slaxxed> :)
Apr 15 05:19:57 <DocScrutinizer> Slaxxed: what?? i68 i9? o.O
Apr 15 05:20:13 <Slaxxed> so the parts coming along any better on core
Apr 15 05:20:59 <Slaxxed> chinese knockoff iphone rip
Apr 15 05:21:07 <Slaxxed> '
Apr 15 05:21:22 <DocScrutinizer> hmm plus google translate
Apr 15 05:23:02 <Slaxxed> http://cell-phones.shop.ebay.com/Cell-Phones-Smartphones-/3312/i.html?_trkparms=65%253A12%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1%257C72%253A2694&_dmpt=Cell_Phones&_mdo=Cell-Phones-Wireless-Products&_mspp=&_pcats=15032&_sop=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Apr 15 05:23:42 <Slaxxed> http://cgi.ebay.com/3-2-PDA-MP3-MP4-FM-I68-I9-Mobile-Cell-Phone-P05-I92_W0QQitemZ250615081794QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCell_Phones?hash=item3a59d2ab42
Apr 15 05:24:32 <Slaxxed> i think those have no wifi
Apr 15 05:25:43 <DocScrutinizer> usually doesn't help much, as those are without any chip specs and datasheets, and you usually get a really crap cpu with 2MB of ram or somesuch
Apr 15 05:26:35 <Slaxxed> yea but it works untill ya break it
Apr 15 05:29:47 <DocScrutinizer> if you want a cheap phone with all the bells and whistles just to show off ('hey it even has a cam - or at least I guess that noise is a picture taken this very moment') and don't care about OS at all, leave aside linux, then you probably don't want a Freerunner (or a N900, or any other of the 'free' phones)
Apr 15 05:30:33 <Slaxxed> oooooo   but i do
Apr 15 05:32:26 <Slaxxed> i just    think that the chinese mfg's seem   to be very capable
Apr 15 05:32:54 <DocScrutinizer> rhey're incredible at 'low tech'
Apr 15 05:33:48 <Slaxxed> an it bothers me that    there is a mfg line available for the core project      yets theres  parts problem
Apr 15 05:34:45 <Slaxxed> a free "donated mfg line at that
Apr 15 05:35:11 <Slaxxed>   i hope that offer holds out till the parts arrive
Apr 15 05:35:18 <DocScrutinizer> that's exactly because we don't want just any crap chip. We need chips with datasheets publically available, and even worse we need very low qty of them atm
Apr 15 05:36:05 <Slaxxed> can u buy them from china?
Apr 15 05:36:33 <Slaxxed> too low quality?
Apr 15 05:36:38 <DocScrutinizer> /join #gta02-core and ask wpwrak
Apr 15 05:36:45 <Slaxxed> not cheap enough?
Apr 15 05:38:01 <DocScrutinizer> alias werner almesberger. gta02-core is his baby, and he is up to date about the components
Apr 15 05:39:16 <DocScrutinizer> Slaxxed: (china) too low quantity
Apr 15 08:26:44 <PaulFertser> Gabrys: ping
Apr 15 08:26:54 <PaulFertser> Gabrys: i've heard SHR has ophoned disabled by default!
Apr 15 08:27:02 <Gabrys> PaulFertser: hi, I'm just here for a minute ;-)
Apr 15 08:27:05 <PaulFertser> Gabrys: if that's true for your system, no wonder bluetooth didn't work for you.
Apr 15 08:27:21 <Gabrys> Gabrys: I haven't used SHR for a while, I tested on QtMoko ;-)
Apr 15 08:27:32 <PaulFertser> Gabrys: i know, but i like shr better.
Apr 15 08:27:39 <PaulFertser> I mean more :)
Apr 15 08:27:42 <Gabrys> yeap
Apr 15 08:27:57 <JaMa> yay :)
Apr 15 08:28:05 <PaulFertser> I think i should add to the wiki a notice about ophoned
Apr 15 08:28:13 <PaulFertser> JaMa: but i still prefer debian :P
Apr 15 08:28:32 <JaMa> I know, but "more" is good ;)
Apr 15 08:28:35 <PaulFertser> JaMa: now that i added ability to answer calls in zhone2 i hope i'll be able to use my phone again :)))
Apr 15 08:30:38 <Gabrys> lol
Apr 15 08:30:41 <Gabrys> ok, got to go 
Apr 15 08:31:52 <JaMa> PaulFertser: even with debian? :P interesting :)
Apr 15 08:32:36 <JaMa> PaulFertser: but I know what you mean.. and my shr-experimental is also almost always somehow broken too and for using my phone I need to reboot to normal shr-u :)
Apr 15 08:33:26 <JaMa> PaulFertser: at least for apt/dpkg is debian clearly better user expirience :/
Apr 15 08:37:56 <PaulFertser> JaMa: i used freerunner as my only phone only with single debian installation for 1.5 years.
Apr 15 08:39:20 <JaMa> I have 3 phones and freerunner is used the least :/ (because it's more usefull at home connected to PC to connect there with ssh from work :))
Apr 15 08:39:41 <PaulFertser> JaMa: i just felt a necessity to finally start using something more cool with opim support so i compiled vala+cornucopia including fsogsmd, and now struggling with old shr apps that do not upnderstand new statuses (all uppercase) and zhone2 that doesn't support answering :)
Apr 15 20:15:45 <tomcatek> I've just upgraded SHR-U, and GPS seems to be always ON
Apr 15 22:17:57 <rvs1st> WSOD fix?
Apr 16 00:58:55 <xelapond> Hey, is there a way to trigger literki from the command line?
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