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Apr 21 06:16:03 <siebz0r> I want to configure the kernel myself, how can I do this?
Apr 21 06:34:49 <PaulFertser> siebz0r: what's your particular problem?
Apr 21 06:35:03 <PaulFertser> siebz0r: ARCH=arm make menuconfig
Apr 21 06:36:35 <JaMa> eliasp: maybe no partition with suitable kernel found?
Apr 21 06:44:37 <siebz0r> PaulFertser: yeah, that helped. I tried make menuconfig but the cpu sets to default 'pentium pro'. I was confused and thought that maybe menuconfig wasn't possible. :-)
Apr 21 06:45:22 <siebz0r> I also see that in Device Drivers > Wireless Lan nothing is selected
Apr 21 06:45:51 <siebz0r> WiFi driver via external module?
Apr 21 06:51:24 <JaMa> did you add some sane .config first?
Apr 21 06:54:36 <siebz0r> yes
Apr 21 06:55:45 <siebz0r> I copied arch/arm/configs/gta02_moredrivers_defconfig to .config
Apr 21 07:00:19 <PaulFertser> siebz0r: ar6001 driver is not inside "Wireless Lan"
Apr 21 07:07:35 <siebz0r> PaulFertser: Could you tell me where it is located?
Apr 21 07:10:10 <siebz0r> JaMa: Yesterday we've talked about the problems I have with GIT. To update I have to do 'git pull' but it fails. I now have downloaded a snapshot from the GIT-web interface. But is there a way to use GIT itself?
Apr 21 07:12:23 <radekp> siebz0r: it's in "Device drives" on the bottom
Apr 21 07:14:10 <JaMa> siebz0r: git clone normaly works.. but for big projects like kernel it sometimes fail (and probably always fail for clone of git.openmoko repository)
Apr 21 07:14:29 <siebz0r> radekp: Thanks ;-) sorry for asking the shitty question
Apr 21 07:14:45 <radekp> siebz0r: np
Apr 21 07:15:32 <siebz0r> JaMa: Is there an alternative like SVN of something else?
Apr 21 07:15:36 <JaMa> siebz0r: you can try to add "--depth 1" to git clone
Apr 21 07:16:26 <JaMa> siebz0r: you mean the same repo available through svn? I guess no.. 
Apr 21 07:26:23 <siebz0r> Would be an inprovement I think :P
Apr 21 07:27:00 <JaMa> svn instead of git? clearly not
Apr 21 07:27:55 <siebz0r> svn cannot handle big projects either?
Apr 21 07:30:38 <siebz0r> --depth 1 doesn't make a difference
Apr 21 07:38:57 <JaMa> siebz0r: git can handle big projects.. ie git.kernel.org does it great :) probably needs some tweaks on git server to do it efficiently without those "remote: fatal: Out of memory? mmap failed: Cannot allocate memory" or maybe just more ram on server :)
Apr 21 07:39:16 <JaMa> but ie git clone from gitorious/github for kernel sources also sometimes fail
Apr 21 07:39:50 <JaMa> but the instructions I sent to list (unpack+git pull) works for me.. not sure why it would fail for you if you do it the same
Apr 21 07:41:34 <siebz0r> I also get "fatal: early EOF"
Apr 21 07:45:14 <siebz0r> btw: the git website banner is cool :')
Apr 21 08:03:04 <siebz0r> JaMa: what git version are you using?
Apr 21 08:04:45 <JaMa> latest
Apr 21 08:05:11 <siebz0r> 1.7.0.4?
Apr 21 08:06:17 <JaMa> yes, but there is also 1.7.0.5 too now
Apr 21 08:08:14 <siebz0r> yeah I see, but the latest git in my repo is 1.7.0.4 but it's marked 'unstable'. I'm upgrading from 1.6.4.4 now, to see if it helps.
Apr 21 08:14:05 <pieterc> is it a good idea to try to add a JVM in hardware in the openmoko?
Apr 21 08:14:42 <max_posedon> arm jazello instructions isn't jvm
Apr 21 08:14:57 <max_posedon> and its useless, unless you want run java apps
Apr 21 08:15:10 <max_posedon> and if you want run java apps, neo isn't your kind of toy
Apr 21 08:15:47 <mjr> also, not much going on in terms of hw devel anyway
Apr 21 08:21:50 <face> get snapshot + git pull doesn't work for me :-( I get remote: fatal: Out of memory? mmap failed: Cannot allocate memory
Apr 21 08:21:50 <face> remote: aborting due to possible repository corruption on the remote side.
Apr 21 08:21:50 <face> fatal: protocol error: bad pack header
Apr 21 08:48:19 <siebz0r> face: same here
Apr 21 10:05:19 <siebz0r> face: try extracting the snapshot
Apr 21 10:05:33 <siebz0r> then 'git pull --depth=1'
Apr 21 10:05:48 <siebz0r> just worked for me :-)
Apr 21 10:27:56 <face> siebz0r, hey, it works!
Apr 21 10:30:35 <Bambi_BOFH> hi all, if i'm looking for an adaptor from the audio plug used in the FR to a standard 1/8th or 1/4 inch jack, what word do i need to use for the plug ? :)
Apr 21 10:40:50 <siebz0r> it's a jack plug if that's what you mean ;-)
Apr 21 10:52:19 <Bambi_BOFH> hm, ok. i was thinking more of its designation (eg, 1/8th inch). something i can search on. heading home now, but i'm logging on another account if there are replies :)
Apr 21 11:21:56 <PaulFertser> Bambi it's not trivial to find a ready-made adapter! Watch the pinout carefully.
Apr 21 11:22:17 <PaulFertser> siebz0r: same goes for you so you give good advice next time ;)
Apr 21 11:22:55 <siebz0r> PaulFertser: the pinout differs from standard?
Apr 21 11:23:41 <PaulFertser> siebz0r: is there any standard pinout for a 4-ring 2.5mm plug? ;)
Apr 21 11:24:45 <siebz0r> I assumed. Since there are a lot of 4-ring headsets available.
Apr 21 11:28:09 <PaulFertser> siebz0r: i think there`re two common pinouts used: nokia's and motorola's. And also there're 2.5->3.5 adapters that are 3-rings and hence not compatible ever.
Apr 21 11:29:36 <siebz0r> hmm.. right, so you'll have to make one yourself then?
Apr 21 11:32:44 <PaulFertser> siebz0r: either that or take nokia's, open the small case with the button and resolder two wires.
Apr 21 11:39:51 <siebz0r> I'm gonna make one myself :D I have a bunch of 3,5mm Jack-female plugs
Apr 21 11:40:28 <siebz0r> Once started a audio switch project, but never had time to realy start soldering
Apr 21 11:41:58 <PaulFertser> siebz0r: heh, cool. Is 2.5mm 4-ring jack easily obtainable for you?
Apr 21 11:43:13 <siebz0r> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware#Analog_wired_Headset
Apr 21 11:45:09 <PaulFertser> Yep
Apr 21 11:47:51 <nullix> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Headset
Apr 21 12:12:41 <Ar|stote|is> Hello, is there anyone living in Venice that can fix the buzz problem on a freerunner?
Apr 21 12:14:15 <siebz0r> Ar|stote|is: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Buzz_Fix this?
Apr 21 12:14:55 <Ar|stote|is> yeah
Apr 21 15:06:58 <slaxxer> would it be better to build a short adapter cable adapter    than to use an adapter?
Apr 21 15:12:30 <linx_> Hello, is there anyone living in Venice that can fix the buzz problem on a freerunner?
Apr 21 15:13:04 <mjr> slaxxer, it might be mechanically more flexible, shall we say
Apr 21 17:38:08 <redarrow> hi, i'd like to know if there is a calendar program for Openmoko avaliable
Apr 21 17:53:03 <PaulFertser> redarrow: emacs ;)
Apr 21 17:53:16 <PaulFertser> redarrow: and also "cal" as in any *nix system :)
Apr 21 17:54:48 <redarrow> does emacs support online calendar?
Apr 21 17:54:55 <siebz0r> xD emacs
Apr 21 18:00:36 <undrwater> does anyone have the latest nwa?  link is broken on wiki
Apr 21 18:00:44 <undrwater> or SF site is down?
Apr 21 18:06:29 <PaulFertser> redarrow: emacs has some support for iCalendar format, not sure if that's enough for your needs.
Apr 21 18:07:03 <PaulFertser> siebz0r: i actually tried using it for general purpose tasks on device and it feels comfortable. Not sure, probably i'm just too insane ;)
Apr 21 18:08:22 <undrwater> PaulFertser: not probably
Apr 21 18:44:53 <undrwater> anyone using pisi successfully?
Apr 21 18:58:02 <tomcatek> undrwater: yes... it happens..
Apr 21 19:05:57 <undrwater> tomcatek: pisi deleted all my google cal events...is this default?
Apr 21 19:06:27 <undrwater> pisi -v -m2 googleCalendar pimlicodates
Apr 21 21:11:20 <jonsmith1982> selling my phone if anyone is interested .... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150434972168
Apr 21 21:25:44 <siebz0r> curr bid 0.99 xD
Apr 21 21:27:42 <jonsmith1982> worth every penny :)
Apr 21 21:28:17 * mwester has two already, neither of which works very well...
Apr 21 22:44:51 <linx_> Hello, is there anyone living in Venice that can fix the buzz problem on a freerunner?
Apr 22 00:12:20 <Kamping_Kaiser> PaulFertser: thanks for the warning re adaptor pinouts
Apr 22 00:30:14 * Openfree is away: I'm busy
Apr 22 00:38:28 * Openfree is back (gone 00:08:25)
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