**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Apr 27 02:59:57 2010 Apr 27 05:33:38 LionKMP: you can easily see... do you have a back and a close button on the bottom? Apr 27 05:33:57 LionKMP: then it's illume2... if not it's old illume Apr 27 07:03:30 eMBee: did you resolve your gpsd issue yestarday? Apr 27 07:04:21 JaMa: no, i tried your suggestion, but it didn't help. it did make the no gpsd error go away, but still no location Apr 27 07:04:42 what does fso-gpsd -N -D 3 -n show? Apr 27 07:04:57 stop it first with /etc/init.d/fso-gpsd stop Apr 27 07:06:32 eMBee: have you placed your FR inside or outside of the house? Apr 27 07:06:41 and how long did you wait? Apr 27 07:07:19 hmm, i am at the window, dont remember how long i waited but it was more than a few minutes Apr 27 07:07:44 ok, what am i looking for in the debug log? Apr 27 07:08:07 i am seeing DEBUG: Timeout: sending data to clients Apr 27 07:08:34 and stuff like: Sending nmea: $GPGGA,,,,,,0,00,,,,,,,*66 ... Apr 27 07:08:54 better go outside, if i go to the window i don't get a fix even with an external gps antenna Apr 27 07:09:47 eMBee: and tango still shows no gspd? Apr 27 07:10:11 no that error is gone Apr 27 07:10:13 then you have probably different gpsd url than localhost:gpsd in tango config (last tab) Apr 27 07:10:44 eMBee: so try to kill running fso-gpsd and start it with init script again Apr 27 07:11:11 gpsd host is localhost Apr 27 07:12:07 * JaMa has -S gwjama:gpsd in fso-gpsd init script to make it available on wlan interface.. :) Apr 27 07:13:17 ok, i'll try outside in a few minutes... Apr 27 07:13:36 spent the afternoon figuring out wifi Apr 27 07:13:58 wifi actually works, but mokonnect can't find anything Apr 27 07:14:57 i am down to: self.bus["connman"]["/"]["Manager"]["Devices"] returning a key error, there is no key Devices Apr 27 07:15:22 * eMBee wonders what's up with that Apr 27 07:19:51 * JaMa is not using mokonnect/connman so I cannot comment on this Apr 27 07:20:12 what are you using? Apr 27 07:20:41 /etc/network/interfaces + wpa_supplicant.conf with all networks I need Apr 27 07:21:16 and for some new "unknown" network iwlist+iwconfig Apr 27 07:21:41 so no gui for me Apr 27 07:22:00 ah, well, i want something that gives me a list of available networks and then allows me to connect without configuration (other than typing a password) Apr 27 07:22:15 not even sure if mokonnect would to that Apr 27 07:22:27 may need something else Apr 27 07:26:19 JaMa: do you have an idea why resume is broken for shr flashed to NAND? Apr 27 07:27:18 Heinervdm: no :/ Apr 27 07:27:36 Heinervdm: can you try it with ubi? but probably unrelated to fs Apr 27 07:27:44 it broke between 20.4 and 24.4 Apr 27 07:27:48 Heinervdm: except some timing changes Apr 27 07:28:11 JaMa: i'm using uboot Apr 27 07:28:49 Heinervdm: strange.. I don't recall any change which looks related to suspend/resume (but as well I have now $HOME issue, no idea why..) Apr 27 07:29:04 Heinervdm: then it's even easier for you to update env, isn't it? :) Apr 27 07:29:37 i've no idea what i have to change to use ubi Apr 27 07:30:54 Heinervdm: if you want to try it: http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/recipes/qi/files/rootfstype.ubifs.patch Apr 27 07:33:29 JaMa: there are some errors when booting from NAND: first one is a timeout in /etc/init.d/udev Apr 27 07:33:48 i solved that by increasing the timeout, but that doesn't help Apr 27 07:34:12 Heinervdm: and that's new? udev 151 is here for few weeks.. Apr 27 07:34:27 JaMa: no that error isn't new Apr 27 07:34:49 hmm, and now it's there for uSD too Apr 27 07:35:42 i think the problem is this glamo-mci error i poszted yesterday Apr 27 07:36:07 read git log again and only interesting changes between 20-24 seems setsid and chrt provided by util-linux-ng now, but probably not related too Apr 27 07:36:54 Heinervdm: I pushed Weiss's latest patch for resolution changing yesterday, but you had it before, right? Apr 27 07:37:08 JaMa: yes Apr 27 07:37:29 and Weiss doesn't know anything about this error Apr 27 07:38:00 I can try to reflash latest ubi just to try it here later today Apr 27 07:39:53 JaMa: can you try to flash to NAND? Apr 27 07:40:24 not remotely.. but will do later today.. Apr 27 07:40:37 when I arrive home...11PM or so.. Apr 27 07:41:25 this is dmesg of working resume: http://shr.pastebin.com/1HrC2DMq Apr 27 07:48:03 dmesg of failing resume: http://shr.pastebin.com/jkN4ihe5 Apr 27 07:48:27 this time there the glamo-mci errors are gone, so it doesn't seem related Apr 27 12:26:05 is there an button somewhere that erases all sms' in shr-u? Apr 27 13:45:16 is there a channel for wikireader developers? Apr 27 13:47:22 zashi2: #openmoko-wikireader Apr 27 13:59:47 that's what I was afraid of. :( thanks though. Apr 27 14:08:08 I'm trying the gdrm-2.6.32 kernel, but can't seem to find the DRM driver Apr 27 14:08:46 Device Drivers > Graphics support > DRM > ? Apr 27 14:29:08 siebz0r: it's next to the other Glamo options Apr 27 14:29:16 (under multifunction devices) Apr 27 14:36:13 thnx ;-) Apr 27 14:53:13 Hi there. I flashed my freerunner with qi and unzipped the latest shr-t on my sd card but it won't start SHR (aux button is on and it vibrates briefly though). What can I do?, please Apr 27 16:52:05 can i start an x application from cmd line? Apr 27 16:52:49 DISPLAY=:0 xlock Apr 27 16:57:52 h4v: thanks! Apr 27 16:58:12 i try to catch the error when starting epdfview Apr 27 17:02:46 trying to open a pdf file in epdfviewer i get 'epdfview: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libpoppler-glib.so.4: undefined symbol: g_malloc_n' is that a program bug or a library or sth missing in my system? Apr 27 17:48:08 chomwitt: obv #1 Apr 27 17:48:14 chomwitt: or you have too old a lib Apr 27 18:13:08 * tim_abell is upgrading shr-t while catching up on the lists Apr 27 18:47:14 http://paste.pocoo.org/show/206798/ opkg upgrade of shr-t collected errors Apr 27 18:47:19 is that bad? Apr 27 18:47:47 i've got the same right now Apr 27 18:48:29 i have ten mins to fix it before i have to go :-s Apr 27 18:49:40 that took "real 39m 36.50s" to get to that point Apr 27 18:49:50 i always run it with timee in front, just for kicks Apr 27 18:49:59 time opkg upgrade Apr 27 18:50:49 i'm running it again on the off-chance Apr 27 18:52:10 nope, same again Apr 27 18:52:12 crap Apr 27 18:52:18 anyone know the answer? Apr 27 18:56:04 have posted to shr-user as well, as have to go in a mo Apr 27 18:56:24 you have 2 options Apr 27 18:56:54 now there's a cliff hanger :) Apr 27 18:56:57 1. remove mesa-dri e2fsprogs-uuidgen Apr 27 18:57:15 i know not what either of those are Apr 27 18:57:18 2. -allow-overwrite (or similar options for opkg) Apr 27 18:57:48 ok, what would you recommend? bearing in mind you can't know less than me :) Apr 27 18:58:55 go for 1. i've done it Apr 27 18:59:08 i rebooted it to see what would happen. it didn't get very far as you might expect :-) still have ssh access Apr 27 18:59:34 tim_abell, do 1. then opkg upgrade Apr 27 19:00:29 opkg remove mesa-dri e2fsprogs-uuidgen Apr 27 19:00:40 Package mesa-dri is depended upon by packages: xf86-video-glamo Apr 27 19:00:53 Package e2fsprogs-uuidgen is depended upon by packages: e2fsprogs Apr 27 19:01:06 shall i remove the dependencies too? Apr 27 19:01:11 nope Apr 27 19:01:24 ignore them (force-depends) or similar Apr 27 19:02:00 --nodeps ? Apr 27 19:02:27 --force-depends Apr 27 19:02:40 that's the opposite though Apr 27 19:02:53 than --nodeps :) Apr 27 19:02:56 oh Apr 27 19:03:00 "despite" Apr 27 19:03:03 --force-depends Install/remove despite failed dependencies Apr 27 19:03:13 confusing Apr 27 19:04:32 k, done that. upgrading again... Apr 27 19:06:21 does anyone know a working scientific calculator for shr-u? with debian i used speedcruncher but it's not in shr-u feeds. and self compiling needs QT v4 development lib and cmake which are also not available. :/ Apr 27 19:07:51 success Apr 27 19:08:11 rebooting it... Apr 27 19:08:24 thanks max_posedon / Fox_Muldr Apr 27 19:09:42 laters Apr 27 19:12:32 Fox_Muldr: i tried galculator and it seems nice. Apr 27 19:12:39 With "RPN" support ec. Apr 27 19:12:50 Fox_Muldr: and "bc -l" is always there ;) Apr 27 19:13:19 ok i try it. but i never realy liked rpn ;) Apr 27 19:13:35 hehe i would prefer an graphical version Apr 27 19:14:05 hmm galculator isn't in the feeds Apr 27 19:14:15 maybe i can compile ith without too much trouble :) Apr 27 19:15:41 Fox_Muldr: ask shr folks for it Apr 27 19:16:00 Fox_Muldr: galculator is quite popular, available from debian repo (you can just download it from there) Apr 27 19:16:13 Fox_Muldr: it supports both rpn and infix notation afair. Apr 27 19:16:34 speedcrunch is also available in debian repo for neo. maybe i should try both versions from there Apr 27 19:17:37 but speedcrunch needs qt and i think shr-u has no qt. so maybe this isn't such a good idea. i should try galculator first :) Apr 27 19:19:24 hello, i'm having a problem accessing my freerunner with usb Apr 27 19:19:36 it wont show up on the host Apr 27 19:20:07 any ideas? Apr 27 19:22:20 bartv: clarify please. Apr 27 19:22:31 bartv: nothing in dmesg _at_all_? Apr 27 19:22:41 no nothing at all Apr 27 19:22:54 g_ether is loaded on the device Apr 27 19:23:02 bartv: and hostmode is not activated? Apr 27 19:23:09 but nothing in dmesg or lsusb Apr 27 19:23:26 how can i check that, its a standard shr install Apr 27 19:23:49 is the usb0 interface up and configured on neo? Apr 27 19:24:09 yes, it looks ok on the neo Apr 27 19:24:26 bartv: hm, the definitive way to check your hardware: boot to NOR u-boot, check your host's dmesg. Apr 27 19:24:42 bartv: then (if it doesn't work) try any other usb device in the same port. Apr 27 19:24:58 other devices work on the port Apr 27 19:25:05 tried with usb-kb Apr 27 19:25:51 bartv: try NOR u-boot. Apr 27 19:26:04 bartv: and try any other device with the same cable you use for FR. :) Apr 27 19:26:09 Well, you got the idea. Apr 27 19:27:00 Hi all. I'm trying to package an application and it requires python-pygtk OR python-elementary. Is it possible to set this on the control file or anywhere else?, please Apr 27 19:27:08 no reaction on nor boot Apr 27 19:27:55 other device is detected Apr 27 19:28:54 bartv: looks like your USB connector on FR is broken, can you visually inspect it? Apr 27 19:29:14 it looks ok on the outside Apr 27 19:30:04 bartv: fyi the host detects presence of a device because devices have 1.5k (strong) pullups on either D+ or D- line. Apr 27 19:30:30 bartv: if the device's malfunctioning or the cable is bad you'll see "device doesn't accept assigned address" in the log. Apr 27 19:30:36 But you'll get reaction. Apr 27 19:31:37 bartv: btw, when you booted shr-t, did it have charge indication? Apr 27 19:32:23 yes, it charges alright Apr 27 19:33:00 Still probably D+ or D- is broken (i do not remember which is responsible for detecting 1.1 full-speed) Apr 27 19:33:45 so probably a lose contact Apr 27 19:46:12 when i try galculator from debian armel repo i get a memory access error when i try to run it in shr-u. seems they are not so compatible like i hoped. ;) Apr 27 19:50:33 maybe i try to compile it myself at the weekend Apr 27 20:03:59 thanks PaulFertser, i'll try opening it up this weekend, taking a look on the inside Apr 27 20:04:21 bartv: if you're sure the cable is ok, then yes, looks like reasonable way. Apr 27 20:04:39 bartv: esp giving that opening is really easy if you have the needed screwdriver. Apr 27 20:05:18 yes, i need to get one of those, but will try it with another cable first Apr 27 20:05:31 but i think i tried that one already Apr 27 20:06:49 bartv: if you have some set of flat screwdrivers, one of those might work as well. Apr 27 20:07:28 tried some, they where to large Apr 27 20:07:49 i'll try some at the shop Apr 27 20:08:29 bartv: btw, i'm using the phone without screws at all for more than a year. So you might want to unscrew and leave the screwdriver in the shop :) Apr 27 20:09:29 nha, they are not that expensive **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Apr 27 20:12:00 2010 Apr 27 20:12:44 bartv: if you use a wallcharger... Apr 27 20:13:29 no i mean max output on the host Apr 27 20:24:49 luke-jr: thanks Apr 27 20:49:05 is "siglaunchd" still good to use for actions on specific dbus events? i only ask because last change to siglaunchd was 13 months ago Apr 27 21:53:36 woooooooo Apr 27 21:53:38 :-) Apr 27 21:53:43 I got some code into the feeds Apr 27 21:53:48 \o/ Apr 27 21:54:34 and I'm in the thanks file http://code.google.com/p/omnewrotate/source/browse/trunk/THANKS Apr 27 21:55:52 anyone knows, how to choose what should be compiled into image and what shouldn't? Apr 27 22:45:14 is aclocal in the shr-t feed somewhere? Apr 28 00:24:18 good morning Apr 28 00:25:39 JaMa: Heinervdm was right, going outside was the secret. gps is working! thank you! Apr 28 00:54:39 now it will get a fix quickly in the house Apr 28 02:00:23 what is the latest stable release of Qi? Apr 28 02:20:55 ahh, found one, in the shr downloads, but it boots from flash and not from uSD :-( Apr 28 02:24:28 well, at least qi boots now, that's a start Apr 28 02:35:02 i wonder if my uSD card is broken Apr 28 02:36:02 i can use it on a normal computer, but the phone does not seem to see it **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Apr 28 02:59:56 2010