**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Apr 29 02:59:56 2010 Apr 29 03:36:52 helo Apr 29 04:30:00 to you used the correct root option? Apr 29 16:28:16 sooooo Apr 29 16:30:12 anyone know where a decent elementary tutorial is? Apr 29 16:30:33 elementary c++ tutorial just shows me beginner programming tutorials Apr 29 16:33:14 rooly: there is just the wiki page and the docu about elementary Apr 29 16:33:38 so your telling me that effectively no-one uses it Apr 29 16:34:32 rooly: no, only that there is not much docu about it Apr 29 16:34:35 http://docs.enlightenment.org/auto/elementary/index.html Apr 29 16:34:57 http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Elementary Apr 29 16:35:53 rooly: the wiki page has a sort of tutorial Apr 29 16:51:03 hi. in shr-t in contacts the contacts from sim are in duplicates of 5-6! Apr 29 17:15:48 panicking_mike: can you help me a bit? Apr 29 17:16:38 on what? Apr 29 17:17:25 I've tried to install android on uSD but seems that new images differ much from old ones Apr 29 17:18:01 Sorry I need to reflash my device because I'm working on another one Apr 29 17:18:08 I will spend some time tomorrow Apr 29 17:18:15 and take a look at the open issue Apr 29 17:18:20 that we have in the project Apr 29 17:18:51 ok. can you tomorrow make for me a root image of android just tar.gzipped? Apr 29 17:19:15 for the sdcard Apr 29 17:19:16 boot Apr 29 17:19:18 ? Apr 29 17:19:39 I wanna make it booting from uSD Apr 29 17:19:43 ok Apr 29 17:19:47 so I just neet to play with it Apr 29 17:19:51 cupcake Apr 29 17:19:53 or eclair Apr 29 17:19:54 ? Apr 29 17:20:00 what's better? Apr 29 17:20:31 Do you want to use one or two partition Apr 29 17:20:32 ? Apr 29 17:20:42 I prefer cupcake Apr 29 17:21:01 I'm using one. and mount fat as the /sdcard Apr 29 17:22:00 ok Apr 29 17:22:13 thanks Apr 29 17:30:18 panicking_mike: hey :) Man, where did your cool nick go? ;) Apr 29 17:30:42 because I loose my password Apr 29 17:30:43 :D Apr 29 17:30:56 I saw the patch Apr 29 17:30:58 on wifi Apr 29 17:31:01 about the raice Apr 29 17:31:03 race Apr 29 17:31:08 but I prefer my patch Apr 29 17:31:26 That patch reduce only the window Apr 29 17:33:12 panicking_mike: do you mean my stupid patch? Sure, i think i labeled it clearly as being stupid. Apr 29 17:33:40 BTW Apr 29 17:33:44 how are you? Apr 29 17:34:41 panicking_mike: i'm ok :) writing an emacs UI for FSO :))) Apr 29 17:35:04 panicking_mike: how're your secret projects? ;) Apr 29 17:35:54 good Apr 29 17:36:04 I'm working on a new mobile Apr 29 17:36:08 porting android Apr 29 17:36:28 Heh, we have so completely different goals :))) Apr 29 18:02:56 anybody know of a light email client running in elementary? Apr 29 18:03:10 similar to the messages app hopefully Apr 29 18:17:45 Hi, I run 3 commands (from wiki) each time I connect FR to my Mandriva to share network. How can I make these 3 lines "static" in the settings? These are: Apr 29 18:18:17 iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 ip addr add 192.168.0.200/24 dev eth3 Apr 29 18:18:42 (the system keeps eth3, what I lose is "sharing the network connection" (or forwarding) Apr 29 18:19:57 hey all. I replaced the default /etc/freesmartphone/opim/pim.db with mine, but no contacts are showing up Apr 29 18:20:03 which daemon do I need to restart? Apr 29 18:20:33 frameworkd Apr 29 18:21:23 Heinervdm: thanks Apr 29 18:22:08 ...didn't seem to do the job... :( Apr 29 18:22:54 badcloud: you should stop frameworkd replace the file and then start it again Apr 29 18:23:01 gotcha Apr 29 18:23:03 thanks Apr 29 18:24:52 stopped, rm'ed, cp'ed, started, nothing :( Apr 29 18:25:11 hmm strange Apr 29 18:25:19 latest testing Apr 29 18:25:26 ah, phoneuid has cached the list too Apr 29 18:25:46 if opimd sends no update signal it doesn't refresh the list Apr 29 18:27:43 Heinervdm, mrmoku, whichever of you guys is free, can't find phoneuid or opimd in init.d Apr 29 18:28:08 badcloud: it get's started via X session script Apr 29 18:28:15 badcloud: restart X Apr 29 18:28:37 opimd is part of frameworkd Apr 29 18:28:54 I'll try Apr 29 18:29:54 there they are :) Apr 29 18:30:00 thanks (both of you) Apr 29 18:31:52 ummm, not to be a stick in the mud, but I've been having this strange problem both with latest testing and unstable Apr 29 18:32:17 1 out of 3 startups, gsm won't register + cannot be switched on in settings Apr 29 18:36:04 seems very like http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1079 Apr 29 18:37:02 badcloud: I was seeing such issue with unstable too Apr 29 18:37:20 zub: is there a workaround? Apr 29 18:37:33 seems to me maybe one of the phone daemons isn't running Apr 29 18:38:00 that was my impression too, but I never got to invetigate Apr 29 18:38:11 the bug would trigger usually when I was desperate to make a call :) Apr 29 18:38:27 started phonesfod and framewordkd with no errors (meaning they weren't running) Apr 29 18:38:30 nothing changed Apr 29 18:38:38 it seemed that when the phone on startup was more busy (doing something in the GUI) right after startup - the probabily of that happening increased Apr 29 18:38:48 I see Apr 29 18:39:12 what are the other phonefunctioning-related daemons? Apr 29 18:39:15 let my try current u, if I still can reproduce Apr 29 18:39:48 I think it has to do with the daemon which registers the GSM network Apr 29 18:39:55 my sms' are appearing in list Apr 29 18:40:02 I assume they're still stored in sim Apr 29 18:40:24 which means the sim card was accessed successfully Apr 29 18:43:39 zu, anything Apr 29 18:43:40 ? Apr 29 18:44:51 zu! frameworkd was the culprit Apr 29 18:45:02 missing my "b"? :) Apr 29 18:45:11 you need to kill it after grep'ing for it in ps Apr 29 18:45:18 b?? Apr 29 18:45:21 I'm doing upgrade first, then will try few boots Apr 29 18:45:28 never mind Apr 29 18:45:41 the start/stop daemon is not killing frameworkd properly Apr 29 18:46:19 so you just kill it (after you find it via ps), start it and just wait for the GSM to register Apr 29 18:46:22 :) Apr 29 18:46:46 are you devs getting any o' dis'?? Apr 29 18:47:10 that's a workaround. but what is it that happens on the boot? Apr 29 18:48:32 good point Apr 29 18:48:43 maybe I'll post some of this in the ticket Apr 29 18:49:33 seems like they closed http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1079 Apr 29 18:49:42 is there a ticket for this??? Apr 29 18:51:53 hi Apr 29 18:54:54 zub: http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1095 Apr 29 18:55:01 if you care to add your experiences :) Apr 29 18:55:08 PBeck: hey there Apr 29 18:55:23 hi badcloud Apr 29 18:55:34 badcloud: ok, if I find anything, I add it there Apr 29 19:00:11 PBeck: what's up? Apr 29 19:01:42 badcloud: not much Apr 29 19:01:50 badcloud: my n900 is running very well ;) Apr 29 19:03:16 okay, so anyone familiar with coding for e? Apr 29 19:04:10 in c? Apr 29 19:04:50 PBeck: nice Apr 29 19:04:56 I envy the physical kbd Apr 29 19:05:53 yeah Apr 29 19:05:58 c, c++, whatever Apr 29 19:06:10 badcloud: :) Apr 29 19:06:28 rooly: python bindings are also available Apr 29 19:06:40 not interested in python Apr 29 19:06:50 altho, i am aware of that Apr 29 19:07:08 the best scripting language ever! Apr 29 19:08:26 lol Apr 29 19:09:54 anyway, i'm trying to start a little app, and when i call elm_win_add it sends a callback from the library saying it can't create a window Apr 29 19:12:36 any ideas PBeck? Apr 29 19:13:17 ERR:elementary elm_win.c:377 elm_win_add() Cannot create window Apr 29 19:13:19 's al i get Apr 29 19:15:53 rooly: how you start the app? Apr 29 19:17:35 http://pastebin.com/J8AgH4CD Apr 29 19:18:52 not the code - how you start it in the console? Apr 29 19:18:57 about ssh? Apr 29 19:19:14 oh, i'm trying to run this locally Apr 29 19:19:24 i don't get the same error on the phone, it just doesn't draw anything Apr 29 19:20:10 which mind you, lemme go check now Apr 29 19:21:19 why #ifndef ELM_LIB_QUICKLAUNCH ? Apr 29 19:21:58 honestly, iunno Apr 29 19:22:03 can't find any docs on e Apr 29 19:22:23 so i figured i'd copy some lines from a program that i know compiles and displays, shr-launcher Apr 29 19:22:30 (and is in c) Apr 29 19:23:18 That's nearly the first example from here: http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Elementary Apr 29 19:23:28 but there you don't have the ifndef Apr 29 19:24:10 kk, well removed Apr 29 19:24:13 doesn't change anything Apr 29 19:24:17 rooly: hum i am not a c coder, sorry Apr 29 19:24:28 kk, PBeck, thanks anyway Apr 29 19:24:55 rooly: i am not familiar with the e docs. I had no success with the python docs Apr 29 19:25:03 i love gtk anyway ;) Apr 29 19:26:19 rooly: what version of efl do you have on your desktop? Apr 29 19:26:30 16 i think Apr 29 19:26:54 I think there is no elementary in E16, isn't it? Apr 29 19:27:13 We are using latest E17 with SHR Apr 29 19:27:20 or nearly latest Apr 29 19:29:16 i think it might have something to do with my desktop not having elementary as the window manager Apr 29 19:31:13 okay, well it works now Apr 29 19:31:20 thanks for that link Heinervdm Apr 29 19:33:13 badcloud: after upgrade I'm unable to boot and not get a PIN dialog. On the other hand, I'm getting unknown error after I enter the PIN. Apr 29 19:58:47 zub: be back in an hour +- Apr 29 20:18:13 badcloud: huh I was confusing, I wanted to say I'm unable to reproduce the no-sim-dialog-on-boot issue Apr 29 20:18:59 and often after entering PIN I get "unknown error" + PIN dialog hangs (can't be closed) Apr 29 20:42:39 zub: sounds like *maybe* a variation on the bug I'm experiencing (I don't use PIN encryption) Apr 29 21:10:06 badcloud: I see some such thing being discussed on shr-user Apr 29 21:31:09 zub: thanks for the tip Apr 29 21:48:01 how can i export my sim data to a file in order to edit it with a pim manager in my debian host. i tried pisi with no lukc Apr 29 21:48:04 ? Apr 29 21:50:12 i don't have much luck with wifi... http://www.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1096 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Apr 29 21:57:51 2010 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Apr 29 21:58:15 2010 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Apr 29 21:58:51 2010 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Apr 29 22:00:14 2010 Apr 29 22:42:27 why does enlightenment keep crashing? Apr 29 22:44:17 c.f. http://www.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1096 Apr 29 22:45:16 meh Apr 29 22:45:19 bed time Apr 29 22:45:21 laters Apr 29 22:45:34 at least i've sorted out the dimming crazyness Apr 29 22:45:43 and iliwi seems to work better than mokonnect Apr 30 00:35:54 hey can anyone recommend which version/date of SHR to run on the Freerunner? Apr 30 00:42:00 OS got borked when unplugged during update, and recent SH test & unstable both giving problems with connecting or sound Apr 30 00:44:52 nobody using SHR? Apr 30 00:47:51 echo Hello World Apr 30 00:53:01 anyone running SHR? what date/version? Apr 30 02:36:10 zaq12wsx Apr 30 02:36:32 shr testing 0419 Apr 30 02:37:10 opkg upgrade smoked it Apr 30 02:39:38 maybe when stable arrives ,then a patch system will be implemented so we can upgrade without a problem Apr 30 02:39:59 opkg upgrade patches **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Apr 30 02:59:57 2010