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Jun 05 05:00:24 <undrwater> i'm getting the following when the phone boots: [21474575.205000] mmc1: card 0001 removed
Jun 05 05:00:42 <undrwater> as you can imagine, sd card is no longer present
Jun 05 16:21:33 <Deathzor> are there any alternative openmoko platforms ( alternative to the freerunner ) 
Jun 05 16:25:30 <max_posedon> gta01
Jun 05 16:25:39 <max_posedon> older version of freerunner
Jun 05 16:26:19 <max_posedon> and dash, some navigator
Jun 05 16:26:37 <thrashold> gta01 would be pretty awesome if it didn't lack wifi!
Jun 05 16:27:51 <max_posedon> I think freerunner better.
Jun 05 16:29:01 <max_posedon> Deathzor, but depending on what you mean under "openmoko platform" there is few others devices
Jun 05 16:37:58 <thrashold> GTA01 is a bit slow, but that's excusable as a first model and stuff. When I got GTA02, which was supposed to be better, and found it slower, I wasn't that happy :)
Jun 05 16:38:09 <thrashold> and GTA01 looks so much nicer
Jun 05 16:38:51 <thrashold> I'm kinda sad I didn't get the orange one, and now I could probably fit its case for my GTA02 :D
Jun 05 16:52:44 <Deathzor> max_posedon: alternative means a other open cellphone with better specs ;) 
Jun 05 16:53:08 <max_posedon> how much open?
Jun 05 16:53:30 <Deathzor> having the ability to install any linux distro on it open ... 
Jun 05 16:54:16 <max_posedon> n900
Jun 05 16:54:42 <max_posedon> may be you will have success with palm pre, htc dream, etc...
Jun 05 16:56:25 <max_posedon> its impossible have full open phone, you only can try found some compromism now
Jun 05 17:03:20 <SpeedEvil> n900 is quite open
Jun 05 17:03:41 <SpeedEvil> there are - I think - three OSs that boot on it
Jun 05 17:03:51 <SpeedEvil> meego - somewhat - maemo - and mer (stubs)
Jun 05 17:04:00 <SpeedEvil> meego and mer are somewhat stubs at this time
Jun 05 17:12:14 <mickeyl> HTC dram
Jun 05 17:12:19 <mickeyl> dream, that is
Jun 05 17:12:20 <mickeyl> Palm Pre
Jun 05 17:12:24 <mickeyl> Nexus One
Jun 05 17:12:27 <mickeyl> that are your best bets atm.
Jun 05 17:16:07 <Deathzor> mickeyl: those sound like more "closed" aka not having full control of the software running on the hardware 
Jun 05 17:18:37 <mickeyl> they're not as open as the FR
Jun 05 17:18:47 <mickeyl> but reasonably open, so that you can run lots of your own software
Jun 05 17:18:52 <mickeyl> define "full control"
Jun 05 17:28:44 <Deathzor> mickeyl: install debian on it basicly ... 
Jun 05 17:29:10 <mickeyl> right, this you can on all the three i mentioned
Jun 05 17:29:28 <mickeyl> albeit with varying degrees of convenience
Jun 05 22:20:18 <uzi18> written new game for neo :) but need tests ideas, anyone interested in ?
Jun 05 22:21:14 <badcloud> uzi18: what do you mean by "test ideas"?
Jun 05 22:21:30 <uzi18> test & ideas ;)
Jun 05 22:21:31 <badcloud> if you want someone to test your app, I'd be happy to
Jun 05 22:21:39 <uzi18> http://starowa.one.pl/~uzi/om/qneoroid-0.1.tar.bz2
Jun 05 22:22:02 <badcloud> wait a sec, gotta fire the FR up :)
Jun 05 22:22:18 <uzi18> in facts it is netwalk hacked to my favorite ... C=64 game
Jun 05 22:22:36 <uzi18> badcloud: this archives are sources
Jun 05 22:22:49 <badcloud> ah, so I'd need to compile
Jun 05 22:23:05 <badcloud> I haven't properly set up the cross compiling env
Jun 05 22:23:22 <uzi18> badcloud: just compile on desktop :)
Jun 05 22:23:26 <uzi18> qmake
Jun 05 22:23:27 <uzi18> make 
Jun 05 22:23:43 <badcloud> I'll give it a shot
Jun 05 22:24:37 <uzi18> and this is link to original game with screenshots http://www.gb64.com/game.php?id=2531&d=24
Jun 05 22:26:07 <badcloud> uzi18: make gives me "*** No rule to make target `/usr/share/qt4/mkspecs/linux-g++-64/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'.  Stop.
Jun 05 22:26:47 <uzi18> badcloud: have you launched qmake ?
Jun 05 22:27:07 <badcloud> uzi18: haha, I thought that was a typo ;)
Jun 05 22:27:24 <uzi18> ;P
Jun 05 22:30:04 * badcloud is installing qt4-make, lalala...
Jun 05 22:32:43 <badcloud> uzi18: http://pastebin.com/b4Ph3CzB
Jun 05 22:32:47 <badcloud> :P
Jun 05 22:33:19 <uzi18> install qt4-dev
Jun 05 22:34:50 <badcloud> uzi18: 142MB, might take more than just a sec
Jun 05 22:35:01 <uzi18> no problem 
Jun 05 22:35:20 <uzi18> i'm fixing rest of bugs :)
Jun 05 22:42:29 <badcloud> uzi18: installed qt4-dev-tools (no package named qt4-dev), but looks like make gives me the same shit
Jun 05 22:42:31 <badcloud> http://pastebin.com/3x5TMw0s
Jun 05 22:42:50 <uzi18> qmake && make ? 
Jun 05 22:43:40 <badcloud> ah, yes
Jun 05 22:43:43 <badcloud> trying...
Jun 05 22:44:31 <badcloud> yeah.... no
Jun 05 22:44:32 <badcloud> http://pastebin.com/B9GY362D
Jun 05 22:46:45 <badcloud> uzi18: well, I'm off to bed. hope you find someone with more luck/knowledge/both
Jun 05 22:49:30 <uzi18> badcloud: :) ok try tommorow ;)
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