**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 08 02:59:56 2010 Jun 08 05:56:05 has oss been dropped from shr? Jun 08 08:06:19 wot? Jun 08 08:28:32 hi, can anyone tell me why my phone can't be suspended while GPRS is turned on? I'm using SHR. Jun 08 08:33:49 Hello, I use SHR on my gta02. I keep getting "SIM card not present" or something similar every time i start up. It was working for a long while. I thought reflashing might help but it hasn't. Jun 08 08:34:40 Can anyone point me in the right direction? Jun 08 08:41:59 looks like you would need top patch ophonekitd-main.c, the message is unconditional when no sim card is present Jun 08 21:43:17 HI all. Can anybody point me to the sources of the SIM card interface driver ? Jun 08 21:45:40 nope Jun 08 21:46:11 it's proprietary Jun 08 21:47:26 lars_, it is closed into fw bin image ? Jun 08 21:48:30 yes Jun 09 00:12:48 any idea where I might be able to find a replacement component for the usb connection on my freerunner? Jun 09 00:12:55 err, usb connector Jun 09 00:13:26 digikey.com mouser.com Jun 09 00:15:15 newark.com is decent too Jun 09 00:16:46 yeah Jun 09 00:17:09 has the connector actually become damaged, or just not disconnected? Jun 09 00:17:17 damaged Jun 09 00:17:34 the plastic piece in the middle that protects the metal pieces fell off Jun 09 00:18:09 possibly as a result of an overzealous user attempting forcing a usb cable in the wrong way Jun 09 00:18:46 ah Jun 09 00:24:11 I'm going to order the part and an external charger and see if I can start playing with it again Jun 09 00:24:11 bja: did you find it ? Jun 09 00:24:24 I found one from a link off the wiki Jun 09 00:24:33 which I swear wasn't there the last time I looked Jun 09 00:24:36 but I probably just missed it Jun 09 00:24:40 what wiki page ? Jun 09 00:25:09 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Hardware Jun 09 00:25:17 there's a link to a mini AB connector Jun 09 00:25:36 from cypressindustries.com Jun 09 00:27:33 "GTA02-Neo Freerunner" is that what you have ? Jun 09 00:27:41 yes Jun 09 00:28:07 that has this: CMK A425-206162-001 USB receptacle -- which I can't find Jun 09 00:28:53 but I also found this: added the Tyco 1734035-2 as an exact replacement for the CMK A425-206162-001 USB receptacle Jun 09 00:29:06 http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=A31727CT-ND Jun 09 00:30:19 I'll order one and give it a try Jun 09 00:30:46 seems like a better possibility than the cypress one Jun 09 00:30:47 actually, given how quickly I broke it Jun 09 00:30:55 I'll order a couple Jun 09 00:31:20 for $1.29, why not Jun 09 00:31:26 yeah Jun 09 00:32:01 how are those anchored to the pcb ? Jun 09 00:32:10 soldered ? Jun 09 00:32:21 yes Jun 09 00:32:43 bja: you know how to desolder it and all that ? Jun 09 00:32:52 yes Jun 09 00:33:27 I spent a couple semesters being a solder monkey for an electronics shop Jun 09 00:33:48 solder, desolder, sometimes wind a coil... Jun 09 00:34:13 LOL, did you do much surface mount stuff with that ? Jun 09 00:35:51 they liked to make the interns prototype stuff Jun 09 00:36:02 need 10 test boxes? make the interns do it Jun 09 00:37:42 well good luck just the same! Jun 09 00:38:46 thanks Jun 09 00:38:50 I have a G1 Jun 09 00:38:54 but it's currently my only phone Jun 09 00:39:19 so I'm loathe to put something that I haven't tested a lot on it Jun 09 00:39:42 especially given that I haven't tested out SIP softphones in awhile Jun 09 00:39:55 and that's what I use via android Jun 09 00:41:43 I got one of these a while back... Jun 09 00:41:45 http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=243-1065-ND Jun 09 00:42:25 it's great for smt work Jun 09 00:43:59 !paste Jun 09 00:47:00 bja: here's a picture from it: http://www.picpaste.com/Photo20100510132325093.jpg Jun 09 00:47:37 wow Jun 09 00:47:53 those are .5 mm pitch pins Jun 09 00:48:02 I might have to convince the wife to let me buy one Jun 09 00:48:14 might be a tough sell given I do smt maybe once a year Jun 09 00:50:03 maybe, it's good for anything small though. and it shows the image real time, so you can work under it Jun 09 00:50:31 Practically, many relatively low-end (20 quiddish) can do that. Jun 09 00:50:48 With the lens screwed out a bit. Jun 09 00:53:07 yeah, there are cheaper ones for sure. I got that one b/c it's 1.3MP where as alot of the others are lower Jun 09 00:53:13 I've used a loupe before Jun 09 00:53:19 it wasn't exactly fun Jun 09 00:53:23 but it did do what I needed Jun 09 00:53:37 yeah, i have a bunch of those Jun 09 00:53:57 I like having tools though Jun 09 00:54:09 probably a worse habit than coke Jun 09 00:54:14 heh Jun 09 00:54:36 although I've never done anything in a bathroom to get some hardware Jun 09 00:54:41 so maybe not Jun 09 00:55:59 yeah, I impulse bought a frequency counter at fry's a month ago - $120 since it was discontinued - normally $450 Jun 09 00:56:34 I have a scope from an impulse buy Jun 09 00:56:43 it was an old analogue hp Jun 09 00:56:49 but it was only $30 Jun 09 00:57:00 still needs to be properly calibrated Jun 09 00:57:05 heh, HP 1741A here Jun 09 00:57:10 but I haven't had the time to follow the manual Jun 09 00:57:38 too many clients wanting retarded django scripts Jun 09 00:58:12 mine was a gift, I used the freq counter to calibrate it Jun 09 00:58:42 some of the volt/div selections don't work on ch A though Jun 09 00:59:46 does yours have a "conventional mode" button on the back of it ? Jun 09 01:00:03 not sure, I'd need to check Jun 09 01:01:06 ah, no big deal. I'm not sure what it does and the manual is "scanned" so I can't search it Jun 09 01:01:41 so far I've found only one mention of it, but it just says to turn it off Jun 09 01:03:18 we got kind of off topic - I hope we're not annoying people Jun 09 01:04:40 so, do the hardware folks hand out here or is there another channel for that ? Jun 09 01:04:41 You're hardly disturbing the vibrant discourse. Jun 09 01:04:47 ##electronics Jun 09 01:04:59 285 people. Jun 09 01:05:16 I meant the open moko hardware specifically Jun 09 01:05:20 ah Jun 09 01:05:27 As far as I'm aware - not. Jun 09 01:05:40 The hardware folks are somewhere around. Jun 09 01:05:47 * SpeedEvil looks at DocScrutinizer. Jun 09 01:06:29 well, I was wondering if anyone had looked at these "SocketModem" products by multitech.com Jun 09 01:07:13 socketmodem? Jun 09 01:07:14 link Jun 09 01:07:25 http://www.multitech.com/en_US/PRODUCTS/Families/SocketModemCell/ Jun 09 01:07:47 What about them? Jun 09 01:08:57 well if they might be considered as a possible replacement for GSM module currently being used Jun 09 01:09:07 Seem quite large. Jun 09 01:09:26 There is no new hardware version. Jun 09 01:09:29 well, that's true Jun 09 01:09:51 Absent someone putting down a large slice of $1m - there will be no gta03/4 Jun 09 01:10:43 yeah, I don't have a large slice sadly Jun 09 01:12:45 I was just looking at the schematics Jun 09 01:14:37 In practice for a 'volume' phone - you never want to use a phone module Jun 09 01:14:46 but to put the chips on the motherboard Jun 09 01:16:49 doje: hope you like them. Gave me quite some headache to clean them up so they actually look like they do now ;-D Jun 09 01:17:25 They are beautiful! I have them framed on my walls, and I look at them for several hours a day. Jun 09 01:17:34 (Well - I would if I had a bigger printer) Jun 09 01:18:17 in TPE OM office, we actually had that :-) Jun 09 01:18:17 DocScrutinizer: yeah, I did, nice work. I know what a pain that is. Jun 09 01:20:02 with frames and glass cover and all you'd expect for such a piece of artwork :-D Jun 09 01:21:16 but the black blob of gta01 schematics is my masterpiece :-P Jun 09 01:21:29 :) Jun 09 01:21:51 * SpeedEvil wishes for source for gllin slightly. Jun 09 01:22:05 btw the modem didn't change much from 01 to 02, so you can use that for 02 as well Jun 09 01:23:05 err, ooops. scratch that Jun 09 01:24:18 what do the INT0 and IO1 lines do (MCU/GSM) ? Jun 09 01:26:05 the one is ring indicator, and the other starts the modem - off top of my head Jun 09 01:26:52 bye, lat here Jun 09 01:26:56 late Jun 09 01:27:42 I figured MODEM_ON turned on the modem - or is that status output ? Jun 09 01:28:48 is this the right place to ask questions about installing debian on the freerunner? Jun 09 01:33:14 mmm perhaps later on ;) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jun 09 02:59:57 2010