**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jun 09 02:59:57 2010
Jun 09 13:25:30 <ronny> hi
Jun 09 18:40:54 <Defiant> oh nuts...a tuhh student writing at o-c ml
Jun 09 19:24:42 <larsc> Defiant: whats wrong with it?
Jun 09 20:14:29 <Ar|stote|is> is mokonnect able to connect to hidden networks using wpa2?
Jun 09 20:15:34 <Ar|stote|is> wpa2-mixed tkip+aes
Jun 09 20:15:34 <JaMa> Ar|stote|is: try iliwi
Jun 09 20:23:49 <Ar|stote|is> which distro would you reccomend for the FR? priority for me is  gps > internet > phone functions
Jun 09 20:24:40 <Wonka> SHR.
Jun 09 20:25:20 <Ar|stote|is> i still cant get navit to work in shr after two days of failing attempts
Jun 09 20:25:56 <Ar|stote|is> any eta on the 1.0 v of shr?
Jun 09 20:26:06 <SpeedEvil> What's your problem with the GPS?
Jun 09 20:26:21 <Wonka> haven't really tried navit yet. tangoGPS works very nice.
Jun 09 20:26:44 <Ar|stote|is> tangogps works as intended but i cant get navit to work...
Jun 09 20:26:59 <Ar|stote|is> doesnt connect to the gpsd or something
Jun 09 20:27:34 <Ar|stote|is> when i installed navit from shr feed i got a navit and navitD desktop icons and upon running navit on terminal i get navit: symbol lookup error: navit: undefined symbol: g_malloc0_n
Jun 09 20:27:37 <Ar|stote|is> this error
Jun 09 20:30:37 <Ar|stote|is> other than that (the navit problem) i got some wifi issues
Jun 09 20:37:46 <Ar|stote|is> JaMa, do i have to manually open wifi in order for iliwi to start?
Jun 09 20:40:56 <JaMa> Ar|stote|is: I don't use any gui for wifi sorry (cmdline always worked best for me..)
Jun 09 20:43:42 <Ar|stote|is> its just that when i click the desktop icon "the loading screen comes up and then disappears and nothing else happens"
Jun 09 20:44:26 <Ar|stote|is> and iliwi from the terminal returns this:
Jun 09 20:44:26 <Ar|stote|is> ** (process:961): CRITICAL **: g_file_stream_read_line: assertion `self != NULL' failed
Jun 09 20:44:27 <Ar|stote|is> iliwi: symbol lookup error: iliwi: undefined symbol: g_realloc_n
Jun 09 20:44:27 <JaMa> while starting iliwi? strange it should show something (shows here)
Jun 09 20:44:58 <Ar|stote|is> i guess ill have to install shr from scratch
Jun 09 20:45:06 <Ar|stote|is> too many problems here
Jun 09 20:50:30 <JaMa> Ar|stote|is: which version do you have and when did you last opkg upgrade?
Jun 09 20:50:49 <Ar|stote|is> i am currently waiting for that opkg upgrade to finish
Jun 09 20:51:06 <Ar|stote|is> and about the version im not sure now but i think it was about 2 months before i installed the latest back then
Jun 09 20:51:31 <Ar|stote|is> ill send when the opkg upgrade will be over again
Jun 09 20:52:45 <JaMa> Ar|stote|is: if g_malloc0_n g_realloc_n is still missing reinstall every package with glib in name :)
Jun 09 20:53:50 <Ar|stote|is> other than that...do you know of any program for shr that has math formulas/ or something like gnu octave ?
Jun 09 20:55:01 <JaMa> Ar|stote|is: I can build octave if it has usable gui for fr
Jun 09 21:37:48 <Ar|stote|is> after opkg upgrade and reboot, the FR stays at the boot screen and doesnt respond :P
Jun 09 21:41:49 <[Rui]> Ar|stote|is: I just did an shr-u opkg upgrade (minus kernel packages), rebooting now...
Jun 09 21:43:16 <[Rui]> Ar|stote|is: it booted well enough
Jun 09 21:43:33 <[Rui]> Ar|stote|is: either you have another issue, or it's a kernel problem.
Jun 09 21:43:36 <[Rui]> JaMa: ping?
Jun 09 21:43:51 <Ar|stote|is> and i cant install shr from scratch again now. after the upgrade everything seemed fine other than an enlightenment error
Jun 09 21:44:13 <Ar|stote|is> boot stays 4 unknown boot options ...... ignoring
Jun 09 21:44:15 <Ar|stote|is> and hangs there
Jun 09 21:44:31 <Ar|stote|is> after shr logo wait while booting comes up and then goes away
Jun 09 21:44:33 <[Rui]> Ar|stote|is: do you boot from sd?
Jun 09 21:44:38 <Ar|stote|is> nop
Jun 09 21:45:10 <[Rui]> Ar|stote|is: then I don't know what to suggest... btw... I strongly recommend using the µ-sd as the boot device
Jun 09 21:45:19 <JaMa> [Rui]: pong
Jun 09 21:45:32 <slaxxer> same here after opkg upgrade on 06022010 shr-u
Jun 09 21:45:34 <[Rui]> easier (just untar), faster to transfer, and one can do fsck :)
Jun 09 21:45:47 <[Rui]> JaMa: it seems Ar|stote|is doesn't boot from nand after upgrade
Jun 09 21:45:56 <[Rui]> JaMa: I only didn't upgrade kernel and booted just fine
Jun 09 21:46:52 <JaMa> my, mrmoku's and jluis's FR boots OK after upgrade, Ar|stote|is can you boot you FR while holding POWER button (for debug)?
Jun 09 21:46:52 <slaxxer> another thing  2 programs open during suspend  every time
Jun 09 21:48:50 <slaxxer> iliwi  will even connect in 15 seconds  an also if u leave the network area an return it hooks back up
Jun 09 21:52:51 <Ar|stote|is> i think hanged with: last 4 messages say
Jun 09 21:53:11 <Ar|stote|is> s3c2440-sdi :powered down 
Jun 09 21:53:18 <Ar|stote|is> x2
Jun 09 21:53:30 <Ar|stote|is> modem wakeup imterrupt
Jun 09 21:53:30 <Ar|stote|is> x2
Jun 09 21:54:08 <[Rui]> Ar|stote|is: can you get a 2B µ-sd card? they should be dirt cheap now...
Jun 09 21:54:30 <Ar|stote|is> andrxerri port=0 ch=0x00, rxs=0x0000000c
Jun 09 21:54:39 <Ar|stote|is> and just stays there
Jun 09 21:54:46 <Ar|stote|is> yes i can
Jun 09 21:56:33 <[Rui]> Ar|stote|is: I moved completely from nand to µ-sd when I found that even though it seemed to flash ok, lots of problems were coming up... so I just assumed bad nand or nand gone wrong :(
Jun 09 21:56:42 <[Rui]> Ar|stote|is: but I haven't been sorry ever after...
Jun 09 21:57:07 <Ar|stote|is> i thought that from nand everything would be faster
Jun 09 21:58:16 <JaMa> Ar|stote|is: that's all with debug? it should be much more
Jun 09 21:58:35 <JaMa> Ar|stote|is: and are you sure that usb networking is not UP during this?
Jun 09 22:01:27 <Ar|stote|is> i dont think i got it right then. do i have to have the FR connected with the usb and press POWER and hold it ?
Jun 09 22:02:01 <JaMa> no, just hold power while booting
Jun 09 22:02:22 <JaMa> but then with running FR you can try to connect usb and check if usb networking is running
Jun 09 22:02:50 <JaMa> it's possible that only Xorg didn't start for you
Jun 09 22:03:40 <[Rui]> oh shit, elmdentica...
Jun 09 22:04:50 <[Rui]> I've got my own package so.. I guess I'll have to update my local build env
Jun 09 22:05:13 <Ar|stote|is> i connected through ssh to the neo while having pressed the power button
Jun 09 22:05:36 <Ar|stote|is> what should i do now?
Jun 09 22:06:44 <Ar|stote|is> and it stopped again on the same thing 
Jun 09 22:11:15 <Ar|stote|is> JaMa, what should i do now?
Jun 09 22:11:43 <JaMa> Ar|stote|is: Xorg -verbose 4 &
Jun 09 22:11:46 <JaMa> started ok?
Jun 09 22:12:02 <JaMa> enlightenment_start.oe &
Jun 09 22:12:05 <JaMa> started ok?
Jun 09 22:13:26 <Ar|stote|is> Fatal server error:
Jun 09 22:13:26 <Ar|stote|is> no screens found
Jun 09 22:13:29 <Ar|stote|is> on xorg
Jun 09 22:13:38 <Ar|stote|is> <<<< Enlightenment Error >>>>
Jun 09 22:13:38 <Ar|stote|is> Enlightenment cannot initialize its X connection.
Jun 09 22:13:38 <Ar|stote|is> Have you set your DISPLAY variable?
Jun 09 22:13:38 <Ar|stote|is> E17: Begin shutdown procedure!
Jun 09 22:13:38 <JaMa> pastebin whole log please
Jun 09 22:13:40 <Ar|stote|is> on e
Jun 09 22:13:44 <Ar|stote|is> ok
Jun 09 22:17:31 <Ar|stote|is> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Zc7MN34M
Jun 09 22:18:07 <JaMa> Ar|stote|is: my guess is that you have messed libdrm or lib*gl* (mesa-dri)
Jun 09 22:18:31 <JaMa> 6250.461] (EE) module ABI major version (6) doesn't match the server's version (7)
Jun 09 22:18:34 <JaMa> strange
Jun 09 22:18:42 <JaMa> opkg install -force-reinstall xf86-video-glamo
Jun 09 22:20:29 <JaMa> Ar|stote|is: maybe your opkg status file is messed, because also xserver is now 1.8.1 and you have 1.8.0
Jun 09 22:21:00 <JaMa> Ar|stote|is: so it's not fully upgraded image.. and xf86-video-glamo wasnt probably upgraded from same reason..
Jun 09 22:22:05 <Ar|stote|is> that is what opkg install returned http://pastebin.com/rcfgAkVa
Jun 09 22:22:09 <Ar|stote|is> another error
Jun 09 22:22:42 <Ar|stote|is> well everything apart from some enlightenment sigart errors while manually enabling and disabling wifi was working till i did that opkg upgrade
Jun 09 22:23:22 <Ar|stote|is> which ended successfully i presume and stated that a package needed another one which was provided by yet another package or something
Jun 09 22:24:19 <JaMa> Ar|stote|is: opkg remove mesa-dri and run again
Jun 09 22:24:40 <JaMa> Ar|stote|is: then opkg upgrade should upgrade more stuff
Jun 09 22:25:11 <JaMa> hmm you have shr-t...
Jun 09 22:26:07 <Ar|stote|is> should i use force-depends or force-removal-of-dependent-packages?
Jun 09 22:26:18 <JaMa> what depend on mesa-dri?
Jun 09 22:26:33 <Ar|stote|is> xf86-video-glamo
Jun 09 22:26:39 <JaMa> -force-depends
Jun 09 22:26:57 <JaMa> never use force-removal-of-dependent-packages? unless you really know what you're doing
Jun 09 22:27:10 <Ar|stote|is> well right now i dont know what i am doing :P
Jun 09 22:27:31 <JaMa> now you're safe.. i know why I want you to do :)
Jun 09 22:27:56 <JaMa> but I would like to go to sleep, so hurry up man ;)
Jun 09 22:28:16 <Ar|stote|is> afte the removal i have to opkg install xf86-video-glamo / opkg install mesa-dri or opkg upgrade?
Jun 09 22:29:56 <JaMa> try opkg upgrade
Jun 09 22:30:10 <Ar|stote|is> okay
Jun 09 22:30:38 <JaMa> if it doesn't upgrade xf86-video-glamo and xserver-xorg then opkg install xf86-video-glamo
Jun 09 22:32:06 <Ar|stote|is> installed xf86 glamo and libglwl and some other stuff
Jun 09 22:32:14 <Ar|stote|is> so what now ? try and start xorg again ?
Jun 09 22:33:37 <JaMa> killall enligtenment; killall Xorg; /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm stop; /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm start
Jun 09 22:34:44 <Ar|stote|is> wow that worked
Jun 09 22:34:56 <Ar|stote|is> everything is ok now?
Jun 09 22:35:48 <JaMa> maybe (no idea if really everything was upgraded)..
Jun 09 22:37:20 <Ar|stote|is> well thanks for the help mate
Jun 09 22:37:34 <Ar|stote|is> should i do an opkg upgrade now or it will mess everything?
Jun 09 22:38:04 <JaMa> no opkg update; opkg upgrade is safe
Jun 09 22:38:41 <Ar|stote|is> and is iliwi that you suggested showing any status messages? it has stayed in connecting for about 2 mins now 
Jun 09 22:38:57 <JaMa> Ar|stote|is: next time pay more attention to errors like that mesa-dri libgl conflict..
Jun 09 22:39:15 <JaMa> Ar|stote|is: and btw there is much newer shr-t :)
Jun 09 22:39:37 <Ar|stote|is> havent opkg upgrade got me to the latest one?
Jun 09 22:39:59 <JaMa> Ar|stote|is: I built it about a week ago, but waiting for shr-t maintainer to test it and approve release..
Jun 09 22:40:05 <JaMa> Ar|stote|is: this is not public yet..
Jun 09 22:41:03 <Ar|stote|is> i guess ill reflash the latest shr-t image ill find on the web. and then try and solder my AUX button in place since its a really big hassle flashing without it
Jun 09 22:44:21 <JaMa> Ar|stote|is: unreleased shr-t is hidden here :) http://build.shr-project.org/tests/shr-testing/ but as I said.. it wasn't tested at all (I didn't even flash it and also nobody else..)
Jun 09 22:45:17 * JaMa -> sleep
Jun 09 22:45:19 <JaMa> gnite
Jun 09 22:45:26 <Ar|stote|is> gnight
Jun 09 23:26:10 <Ar|stote|is> which app for geocaching would you suggest for Shr?
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