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Jun 17 09:37:49 <ziarkaen> What is the difference between the A7, A7+ and A7++ revisions of the phone?  Any hardware difference, or is this just flashed firmware?
Jun 17 13:10:27 <ronny> what can i do if i get uncorrectable errors in normal boot while nor boot works fine?
Jun 17 13:11:00 <ronny> (gta2)
Jun 17 13:11:55 <gena2x> check&fix kernel command like in nand uboot
Jun 17 13:12:05 <gena2x> s/like/line/
Jun 17 13:12:06 <apt> gena2x meant: check&fix kernel command line in nand uboot
Jun 17 13:13:23 <ronny> its qi
Jun 17 13:13:29 <ronny> is there a howto?
Jun 17 13:14:13 <gena2x> i dont know about qi
Jun 17 13:14:24 <gena2x> you may flash uboot
Jun 17 13:14:28 <gena2x> and use it
Jun 17 13:14:53 <gena2x> in qi command line is compiled in.
Jun 17 13:14:53 <ronny> so i'll have to switch back to u-boot? - ok, thats doable
Jun 17 13:15:03 <gena2x> not 'have'
Jun 17 13:15:18 <gena2x> just _I_ know this solution
Jun 17 13:15:36 <ronny> well, i have no idea how i would have to fix otherwhose, so i'll have to use that solution
Jun 17 13:15:52 <gena2x> it's good idea also to provide that is your 'uncorrectable' errors exactly>
Jun 17 13:16:19 <ronny> it complains about a few uncorrectable nand reads
Jun 17 13:20:34 <gena2x> and nor version do not complain?
Jun 17 13:20:38 <ronny> nop
Jun 17 13:20:40 <gena2x> strange...
Jun 17 13:21:32 <gena2x> i think that this means ecc check for data readed from nand not match
Jun 17 13:21:38 <ronny> hmm, seems like uboot doesnt work at all
Jun 17 13:21:51 <ronny> (from nand)
Jun 17 13:22:01 <gena2x> how do you starting it?
Jun 17 13:22:11 <gena2x> flashed with nor?
Jun 17 13:22:23 <gena2x> press power, _then_ aux?
Jun 17 13:23:32 <ronny> flashed with nor, power, then aux does nothing
Jun 17 13:23:49 <gena2x> need wait a bit after power
Jun 17 13:24:01 <gena2x> battery is charged ok?
Jun 17 13:24:13 <ronny> its at ~ 50%
Jun 17 13:24:18 <gena2x> k
Jun 17 13:24:39 <gena2x> in fact, you need also flash environment
Jun 17 13:24:59 <ronny> environment?
Jun 17 13:25:20 <gena2x> uboot is in 2 nand partitions - one for uboot, second for settings
Jun 17 13:25:36 <ronny> so whats the second image i need?
Jun 17 13:26:09 <ronny> http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/unstable/daily/om-gta02/20100131/ <- i suppose lowlevel_foo ?
Jun 17 13:26:35 <gena2x> no
Jun 17 13:26:45 <gena2x> you can get mine
Jun 17 13:26:45 <ronny> then what else?
Jun 17 13:26:50 <gena2x> http://www.bsdmn.com/openmoko/
Jun 17 13:26:56 <gena2x> but i can't recall
Jun 17 13:27:03 <gena2x> it's one of u-boot.in
Jun 17 13:27:09 <gena2x> or env.out
Jun 17 13:27:13 <gena2x> or both
Jun 17 13:27:31 <gena2x> probably u-boot.in
Jun 17 13:29:09 <ronny> gena2x: to what partition do i need to store it?
Jun 17 13:29:20 <gena2x> dfu-utils partition is 'u-boot_env'
Jun 17 13:31:01 <gena2x> but it should boot to menu anyway
Jun 17 13:31:09 <ronny> works now
Jun 17 13:31:15 <ronny> thanks a lot
Jun 17 13:31:18 <gena2x> :)
Jun 17 13:31:22 <gena2x> have fun!
Jun 17 13:31:36 <gena2x> oh, in my setup - sd card boot my default
Jun 17 13:31:46 <gena2x> (NAND menu)
Jun 17 13:31:51 <gena2x> tfu
Jun 17 13:32:05 <gena2x> first point - boot from sd, default
Jun 17 13:32:11 <gena2x> second - boot nand
Jun 17 13:32:15 <ronny> hum
Jun 17 13:32:27 <gena2x> third - boot sd, but add root delay
Jun 17 13:32:38 <gena2x> (to boot .32 and .34)
Jun 17 13:32:41 <ronny> seems to work anyway, in case of doubt i might need a different option
Jun 17 13:33:04 <gena2x> fourth - some hacks with sd card speed. use that if you cant boot other variants
Jun 17 13:33:07 <ronny> im setting u the phone of a friend, he got sick of it not working like expected
Jun 17 13:33:16 <gena2x> :)
Jun 17 19:29:53 <PBeck> hi
Jun 17 19:31:23 <undrwater> hello
Jun 17 19:44:34 <PaulFertser> ziarkaen: there's indeed a difference
Jun 17 19:44:43 <PaulFertser> ziarkaen: A7 is what comes from the OM factory
Jun 17 19:44:59 <PaulFertser> ziarkaen: other versions are with the hardware fixes from the distributor.
Jun 17 19:45:13 <PaulFertser> ziarkaen: you better ask the distri in question about the details.
Jun 17 21:08:52 <ziarkaen> PaulFertser, Thanks!  12 hour delay, but that answer makes esne to me :)
Jun 17 21:09:03 <ziarkaen> s/esne/sense
Jun 17 21:54:42 <mk101mx> hi
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