**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jul 02 02:59:57 2010 Jul 02 04:35:44 in the openmoko contacts app is it possible to define pauses for dialing numbers? Jul 02 04:36:52 might be a dumb question since it's likely not even touchtone Jul 02 04:52:37 benjamindees: indeed Jul 02 04:52:51 benjamindees: sending dtmf is a completely different topic Jul 02 04:53:12 benjamindees: i do not think you can use contacts app for that, unfortunately. Jul 02 04:54:00 benjamindees: but i can see why you might want that... Jul 02 07:03:24 Hey I downloaded & installed SHR-U two days ago - but wasn't able to boot it, NOR started to load the kernel but told me can't find it or something. Any hints? Jul 02 07:06:55 rhkfin: did you read announcement? Jul 02 07:07:18 from..? Jul 02 07:07:31 The blog didn't have anything Jul 02 07:07:35 shr-*, openmoko-community ML? Jul 02 07:07:53 there are few hints, but not sure if for your "or something" too Jul 02 07:07:55 ah.. I'll check.. Jul 02 07:08:52 Included packages contains latest stuff like xserver-1.9 (RC3), foxtrotgps and tangogps 0.99.4, QT 4.7.0-beta1 and QML enabled navit - AWESOME! Jul 02 07:09:25 now RC4 :) Jul 02 07:10:14 Hmm.. I'm using Qi so the 2MB size shouldn't be a problem, I guess? And running from flash, not uSD Jul 02 07:10:46 no problem with Qi Jul 02 07:10:57 but reflash it for rootwait Jul 02 07:11:07 reflash qi? ok Jul 02 07:11:15 I guess it cannot find rootfs for you.. Jul 02 07:11:31 guess so Jul 02 07:12:00 6 qi files available, which one should I go? Jul 02 07:12:23 qi-ubi or qi-s3c.. - 2410, 2442 or 6410? Jul 02 07:17:57 do you use ubi instead of jffs2 Jul 02 07:18:13 and gta02 has 2442 cpu.. gta01 2410 Jul 02 07:30:39 What's ubi, isn'g jffs2 the format of rootfs, not qi? Jul 02 07:31:00 what's the 6410 for, if not gta01 or gta02? Jul 02 07:31:25 so I guess it's http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/qi-s3c2442-1.0.2-r2+gitr0+c38b062a609f1442e6a9e13005cfbdfd59a5ac0d.udfu I should use.. Jul 02 07:33:14 rhkfin: qi passes kernel params (ie rootfs format, qi-ubi passes params for ubi rootfs, qi for jffs2) Jul 02 07:33:25 rhkfin: 6410 was planed for gta03 Jul 02 07:33:52 ah, I see. So qi's what I use, not qi-ubi Jul 02 07:39:27 sudo dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D qi-s3c2442-master-hist_3b8513d8b3d9615e.udfu tells me No such Alternate Setting: "u-boot" Jul 02 07:41:43 what dfu-util version do you have? maybe it changed in dfu-util-1.0 release.. Jul 02 07:41:55 and where did you get qi-s3c2442-master-hist_3b8513d8b3d9615e.udfu? Jul 02 07:42:45 ah damn.. Jul 02 07:43:45 I don't have master, it was a copypastefail :) But anyway it doesn't work with the proper image either.. checking version.. Jul 02 07:44:01 dfu-util version 0.1+svn Jul 02 07:47:11 are you sure you have only 1 dfu capable device connected? Jul 02 07:47:22 otherwise provide -d param to specify fr Jul 02 07:48:19 hmm.. interesting point, I do have a gps logger connected.. I'll try.. Jul 02 07:54:50 Hmm.. I have 5 dfu-util processes running and they won't die :/ Jul 02 07:55:27 -> restart :/ Jul 02 10:12:27 JaMa: ubuntu dfu-util didn't succeed, using another dfu-util version 0.1+svn4160 Jul 02 10:12:30 worked fine.. Jul 02 10:18:45 hrm, funny Jul 02 10:19:00 is there a workaround for getting usbhost working on shr-u? Jul 02 10:19:11 can't mount my usb stick :( Jul 02 10:25:18 blindcoder: how do you enable usbhost? Jul 02 10:25:26 blindcoder: my script from wiki works for me Jul 02 10:29:58 JaMa: quick settings menu Jul 02 10:30:07 JaMa: err Jul 02 10:30:12 JaMa: settings --> connectivity Jul 02 10:30:39 "Could not load module: error in line 72" Jul 02 10:31:29 blindcoder: try this script http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_USB_host#USB-Mode-Script_.28universal_for_all_kernels.29 and please report shr-settings bug Jul 02 10:42:07 JaMa: 'can't get kernel image' is what it complains. Reflashed Qi, uimage & rootfs.. Jul 02 10:42:54 HA Jul 02 10:43:20 Can't boot with NOR, but succeeded start it on NAND (i think it's quite difficult - but succeeded this time :) Jul 02 10:44:41 rhkfin: you were booting it with u-boot (from NOR)? Jul 02 10:45:18 JaMa: yes.. Jul 02 10:45:25 rhkfin: then you have to increase amount of nand which is read from kernel partition as kernel image -> crc error, but with NOR u-boot you cannot save it permanently Jul 02 10:45:49 ok.. Well, trying to survive with NAND.. Jul 02 10:46:35 is illume2 usable already? Jul 02 10:46:39 NAND bootloader is "primary", NOR bootloader is only for recovery or upgrade when NAND bootloader is messed Jul 02 10:47:09 it's a pain to load OS from flash with NAND. But succeeded this time :) Jul 02 10:47:20 it depends, many people are using it happily, others compain Jul 02 10:47:35 why pain? 2 or more uSD partitions for Qi? Jul 02 10:47:44 so I'll go with the older.. Jul 02 10:47:55 Only one uSD partition for Qi AFAIK Jul 02 10:48:18 then just pressing AUX is not so difficult.. Jul 02 10:48:52 about as difficult as pressing it before POWER to start NOR bootloader :) Jul 02 10:49:32 timing.. Jul 02 10:50:29 What am I supposed to do if the first run wizxard won't quit..? Finish doesn't do anything.. Jul 02 10:51:33 did you change passwd? mrmoku reported that there is a bug with weak passwords, when shadow shows warning instead of passwd retype Jul 02 10:51:52 yes I did change. It accepted now empty password.. Jul 02 11:30:34 rhkfin: yeah, either empty or strong :P Jul 02 11:30:57 rhkfin: a bug of the first run wizard interacting with the passwd binary ... Jul 02 11:31:38 right Jul 02 11:31:49 However it works now and seems to be fast :) Also installed foxtrotgps :) Jul 02 12:04:16 Anyone remember where spaetz Jul 02 12:04:25 's opkg repository browser is located Jul 02 12:14:44 how do I set the default country in Navit..? Jul 02 12:23:25 rhkfin: do you want to set the selected map or the language of navit? Jul 02 12:24:48 hmm.. map would do.. Jul 02 12:24:53 map is set in maps.xml Jul 02 12:24:55 I've configured the correct map file Jul 02 12:25:13 but when selecting city, you need to define the country first.. Jul 02 12:28:02 hmm i don't know that the country is to be selected before. but i haven't used navit for quite a while :) Jul 02 12:28:49 ok :) Jul 02 12:29:19 Other than that, navit seems to work very quickly, nice! Jul 02 12:32:02 i like the new gui. way better for navigating Jul 02 12:32:14 ah now i see what you mean with selecting the country Jul 02 12:33:02 but when i go to the target selection it shows the last selected country as default and i can directly enter the city Jul 02 12:33:22 only when i click on the country flag i have to select the country first Jul 02 13:32:11 how can i prevent shr-u to suspend while upgrading if it upgrades frameworkd? it seems if frameworkd is upgraded it is restarted and after restart it suspends even when it is powered by usb. and this is really bad when the upgrade process isn't nearly finished because my ssh session gets lost. :/ Jul 02 13:36:20 Fox_Muldr: to not lost your session, do the upgrade in ``screen'' Jul 02 13:36:27 s/lost/lose/ Jul 02 13:36:28 PaulFertser meant: Fox_Muldr: to not lose your session, do the upgrade in ``screen'' Jul 02 13:37:31 Fox_Muldr: and i'm afraid there's no way (other than fixing the bug in question) to make it not suspend after frameworkd restart Jul 02 13:40:09 hmm Jul 02 13:40:27 can i cancel an running upgrade process and restart it without problems? Jul 02 13:48:57 Fox_Muldr: i guess so, but opkg is full of surprises... Jul 02 13:51:27 hehe i tried it and restarted within a screen session. seems to work Jul 02 13:53:12 hmm now when configuring the libs it says something like /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6.0.14-gdb.py is no ELF file and it has wrong magic bytes in the header :/ Jul 02 13:56:17 i hope this is nothing critical. but i will see when it has finished it's major upgrade to 2.6.32 if it works Jul 02 14:03:47 it seems that this message occures for all .py files Jul 02 14:05:12 oh no. when i take a close look than it ALWAYS is the same file (libstdc++.so.6.0.14-gdb.py) which is meantioned even that it configures everytime a different lib Jul 02 14:28:25 oh thats not good. after big upgrade to 2.6.32 x doesn't start anymore :/ Jul 02 14:33:45 when i try to start xserver-nodm by hand via ssh than nothing happens. it only says "Starting XServer" but nothing happens. Jul 02 14:34:18 and xorg.0.log only lists one error with (EE) PreInit returned NULL for "Power Button" Jul 02 19:07:25 when i want to reflash my freerunner, how can i backup and restore the opimd database without pisi? maxbe just copy some native files? Jul 02 19:08:39 Fox_Muldr: hehe, given up upgrading? Jul 02 19:10:01 it doesn't work... xserver is dead and ssh doesn't work too after next reboot :/ Jul 02 19:10:15 so i have no way to connect to my freerunner Jul 02 19:10:34 so i will reflash the latest image ;) Jul 02 19:12:06 Fox_Muldr: you can use uSD to boot Jul 02 19:13:10 i alread killed the no working installation ;) Jul 02 19:13:45 i have copied the latest image to uSD and now i'm restoring customizations from my backup image to the new image :) Jul 02 19:14:07 and therefore i need to know which files opimd uses for its databases Jul 02 19:15:18 Fox_Muldr: i think opimd uses an sqlite database stored somewhere in /etc/freesmartphone/ Jul 02 19:19:47 in /etx/freesmartphone/opimd is a file called pim.db. content looks like ym addressbook :) Jul 02 19:21:09 Fox_Muldr: yes, that's it. Jul 02 19:48:43 now starting the newly flashed (or better copied) image :) Jul 02 19:53:19 hmmm now the first run wizard asks for the root password and when i click on finish nothing happens. the password dialog still is there :/ Jul 02 19:54:00 oh na what a bug. as soon as i enter a password i can't get over the dialog. when i input nothing thah i can continue ;) Jul 02 19:57:41 but i must say that the gui feels much more responsive and faster :) Jul 02 21:12:44 Hey there. Do you know if SHR-t is being developed?, please. cause last image from http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/ is almost 2 months old Jul 02 21:24:45 it is not "developed" but it is a copy of shr-u at a point where shr-u is very stable. and all newer packages are first in shr-u **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jul 03 02:59:56 2010