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Aug 10 04:35:30 <DocScrutinizer> sdradio: I doubt windows will even *see* the physical device for dd'ing anything to it
Aug 10 04:36:42 <DocScrutinizer> I'd know no pathname under windows to point dd of= to it, to access the raw uSD
Aug 10 04:37:06 <slaxxer> slax?
Aug 10 04:37:14 <DocScrutinizer> but I think I heard of special tools for windows to accomplish that
Aug 10 04:39:46 <DocScrutinizer> if you format the uSD as superfloppy under windows, then you might have a chance to access the whole device, beginning with first block. Still I think you'd have a fs mounted on it, which wouldn't allow writing to absolute sector addresses directly
Aug 10 04:40:44 <DocScrutinizer> using tools to create and write back a disk image might help
Aug 10 05:46:13 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer: i think windows does provide access to the raw devices, i guess i saw some example at dd port for win homepage.
Aug 10 05:46:46 <DocScrutinizer> oh, ok. No clue about windows
Aug 10 05:47:06 <DocScrutinizer> and for sure not about dd for windows
Aug 10 05:47:27 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer: i guess it was something related to his bootloader configuration
Aug 10 05:48:01 <DocScrutinizer> hmm, how could his NOR-uBoot config get messed up?
Aug 10 05:49:02 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer: probably he didn't understand "use NOR BL" part of the instructions.
Aug 10 05:49:15 <DocScrutinizer> quite possible, yes
Aug 10 05:49:58 <PaulFertser> "\\?\Device\Harddisk<n>\Partition<n> method is available. Partition0 is the entire disk"
Aug 10 05:51:43 <DocScrutinizer> hah
Aug 10 16:25:36 <PBeck> hi
Aug 10 22:24:44 <johngay> I'm still trying to flash my GSM. I got a USB and tried using dd from my Solaris box, once I figured out the device name, but still no good.
Aug 10 23:31:56 <spydon> johngay, do you have a uSD card bigger then 4gb?
Aug 10 23:32:55 <spydon> because I couldn't get it to work with any sd hc card and then I tried a 2gb card and it worked perfectly
Aug 10 23:50:14 <johngay> no, it's 2G
Aug 10 23:51:57 <johngay> Also, I can't mount the SD Card after I copy the image to it. Shouldn't it be a vfat partition?
Aug 10 23:56:32 <sdradio1> johngay: The first partition is FAT16.
Aug 10 23:57:50 <johngay> Then I guess it didn't dd correctly, since om2007 can't find any partition info )-:
Aug 11 00:28:27 <sdradio1> johngay: even if you sit at a computer with windows, you can use a linux-live-cd. i think this make more fun. :-)
Aug 11 00:55:56 <johngay> Still can't get it to copy )-=
Aug 11 01:03:46 <johngay> why is there only an image of the SD Card for the GDM update? Maybe if I had a tarball I could copy to the SD Card it would work for me.
Aug 11 01:05:10 <sdradio1> johngay: do you still try with windows?
Aug 11 01:05:42 <johngay> I'm using Solaris on sparc now. Still no good.
Aug 11 01:09:58 <sdradio1> johngay: cat ./flash-moko11-2.image | ssh root@192.168.0.202 dd of=/dev/mmcblk0
Aug 11 01:11:58 <johngay> Except I don't have my phone connected to the sparc box.
Aug 11 01:12:54 <johngay> I'm gonna try copying from a USB stick on the phone to the SD Card as a last ditch effort.
Aug 11 01:14:35 <johngay> I've got the tarball on my phone, but there isn't enough room to untar it )-=
Aug 11 01:17:45 <sdradio1> johngay: One remark: You must say dd; copy to "/dev/mmcblk0" (without p*).
Aug 11 01:23:19 <sdradio1> johngay: Maybe the reason is like spydon say. But i could flashed with my 8GB-card.
Aug 11 01:23:58 <johngay> Now I just need to figure out how the enable USB-host mode on om2007
Aug 11 01:24:46 <sdradio1> johngay: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_host
Aug 11 01:33:00 <johngay> OK, so I should be able to dd if=/media/sda1/flash-moko11-2.image of=/dev/mmcblk0 right?
Aug 11 01:33:45 <sdradio1> johngay: yes
Aug 11 01:34:09 <johngay> After I recharge the battery, of course.
Aug 11 01:34:16 <sdradio1> johngay: and don't forget to unmount the sd-card.
Aug 11 01:34:50 <johngay> Thanx.
Aug 11 01:35:12 <sdradio1> johngay: yes, host-mode (5V) need a little bit more power. :-)
Aug 11 01:35:58 <johngay> Hope my battery doesn't die while the tarball is untarring.
Aug 11 01:36:04 <sdradio1> johngay: and don't forget to disable the hostmode, if you recharge. :-)
Aug 11 01:48:40 <sdradio1> johngay: I'm not sure which bootloader i've used the last time to flash my GSM firmware. maybe it was "uboot 1.3.2-moko12 (May 9 2008 - 10:28:48)" from NOR-memory or i used a newer version from NAND.
Aug 11 01:52:09 <johngay> the untar was taking too long, and I've got a copy of the tarball on my sparc box, so I'm copying the image to the usb stick there while I charge my phone.
Aug 11 01:52:41 <johngay> The readme says it was tested on the version I have.
Aug 11 01:54:55 <sdradio1> johngay: ok. don't forget to disable the 5V. ;-)
Aug 11 02:05:32 <johngay> Thanx for all teh help. I'll let my phone charge while I recharge and try this in the morning before work.
Aug 11 02:34:28 <sdradio> johngay: if you want to ensure the battery is completely charged, you can replug the usb-cable in the morning. (because the battery discharge a little bit after charging. the charger starts again automatically under a specific level, but by replugging the charger start immediately.)
Aug 11 02:35:36 <sdradio> johngay: And if the cpu sleep, charging work too. :-)
Aug 11 02:38:33 <johngay> Have you tried android? I'm running H:1 from SD Card, but wanted to try 'droid.
Aug 11 02:43:13 <sdradio> johngay: yes, but android is not so interesting for me. i don't trust google. ;-)
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