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Aug 29 08:09:42 <oliver> good morning
Aug 29 11:00:08 <oliver_> I've got a question: I've just booted the Openmoko freerunner for the first itm
Aug 29 11:00:51 <oliver_> after tabbing the power button lcd got black but nothing happens if I press power and or aux :(
Aug 29 11:04:09 <SpeedEvil> Ok - where did you get it
Aug 29 11:04:42 <oliver_> you mean shop? - Pulster
Aug 29 11:04:58 <SpeedEvil> I mean - ebay/...
Aug 29 11:05:09 <SpeedEvil> For example - do you have reason to believer it wasn't broken.
Aug 29 11:05:12 <oliver_> No it's new from Pulster
Aug 29 11:05:13 <SpeedEvil> Ah.
Aug 29 11:05:29 <oliver_> I've connected it to the power and it booted
Aug 29 11:05:32 <SpeedEvil> Umm. 
Aug 29 11:05:43 <oliver_> I've set time and date
Aug 29 11:06:00 <SpeedEvil> If you set time and date, then it must have booted?
Aug 29 11:06:02 <oliver_> unfortunately I've tabbed power and screnn got blank
Aug 29 11:06:13 <oliver_> black
Aug 29 11:06:22 <SpeedEvil> Suspend may have issues with the stock software
Aug 29 11:06:26 <oliver_> nothing happens if I press power and or aux
Aug 29 11:06:43 <SpeedEvil> I think latest shr has a working suspend - but I have no FR.
Aug 29 11:07:06 <oliver_> I've also connected it to my PC but can't see it
Aug 29 11:07:26 <SpeedEvil> Pull battery
Aug 29 11:07:38 <SpeedEvil> It has probably crashed on suspend resume
Aug 29 11:07:40 <oliver_> ok will try
Aug 29 11:09:00 <oliver_> it works again \o/
Aug 29 11:09:07 <oliver_> thnx for your help
Aug 29 11:09:43 <oliver_> I think I've should have pressed power longer
Aug 29 11:09:54 <oliver_> took around 15 sec untill start
Aug 29 11:12:57 <SpeedEvil> :)
Aug 29 12:06:15 <Kero> recent(current?) 2.6.29 kernel seems unable to boot unstable SHR (jffs2 on NAND as well as un-tgz-ed on SD). Neo1973 + gta01. "Attempt to kill init", but not enough backtrace on the screen to see what's going on.
Aug 29 12:07:12 <Kero> are other gta01 owners experiencing the same? 2.6.28-andy-tracking (taken from debian distro) does boot accompanying image.
Aug 29 12:08:28 <SpeedEvil> Sorry - my GTA01 is running a rartehr older image.
Aug 29 12:08:44 <SpeedEvil> As in ~2008 I think.
Aug 29 12:17:21 * Kero guesses there are not so many gta01 owners experimenting anymore.
Aug 29 12:17:50 * Kero tries newest versions every x months or so, hoping it makes the gta01 usable enough...
Aug 29 12:35:38 <SpeedEvil> Tehre are still lurking devs here occasionally
Aug 29 12:37:35 <Kero> yeah, but I think I'm going to look actively for a successor to the gta01. Do I wait for meego-capable device, or should I try a gta02 :)
Aug 29 12:38:29 <SpeedEvil> Well - GTA02 has itrs own set of fun issues!
Aug 29 12:38:46 <SpeedEvil> Speaking personally, my main regret about my n900 is that it only has one stylus.
Aug 29 12:39:17 <SpeedEvil> And admittedly, I only occasionally lose it, but it irks me that they only stuck one in the box, when it costs them probably around 2 cents to make.
Aug 29 12:40:21 <oliver_> bye
Aug 29 12:40:31 <lindi-> my main problem with n900 is that it was not possible to charge it without proprietary software until a few months ago :)
Aug 29 12:41:23 <SpeedEvil> It's been possible for most of a year with a shell script.
Aug 29 12:41:28 * SpeedEvil looks at shell script.
Aug 29 12:42:58 <lindi-> SpeedEvil: yeah but I wasn't made aware
Aug 29 12:46:51 <Kero> n900 also has/had issues.
Aug 29 12:47:38 <Kero> come to think of it, all phones have issues; it's more visible when the phone is open source, because after the 1st issue is solved, you get the next.
Aug 29 13:57:58 <badcloud> hey guys. is 'sudo ./dfu-util -a rootfs -R -U good-rootfs.jffs2
Aug 29 13:58:14 <badcloud> a good way to backup my flash?
Aug 29 13:58:37 <badcloud> (didn't mean to page-break there)
Aug 29 18:01:02 <oliver> bye
Aug 29 19:37:13 <ThibG> hey
Aug 29 19:37:30 <ThibG> is there a way to delete messages from SIM, in QtMoko...?
Aug 29 20:06:53 <gena2x> ThibG: _o/, ask at ml, may be radek will answer as he'll be online.
Aug 29 20:07:18 <ThibG> I will
Aug 29 20:07:32 <ThibG> so far, I found QtMoko nearly perfect (although it is using Qt :()
Aug 29 20:07:52 <ThibG> but the fact it doesn't clear the SMS from the SIM renders it unusable
Aug 29 20:08:09 <gena2x> ThibG: fully agree, it is very useful in all aspects.
Aug 29 20:08:23 <gena2x> but why do you need to delete them?
Aug 29 20:08:34 <ThibG> because my SIM is full :)
Aug 29 20:08:37 <ThibG> only 20 slots
Aug 29 20:08:43 <gena2x> hm.
Aug 29 20:08:59 <ThibG> QtMoko copies the messages from the SIM but doesn't delete them
Aug 29 20:09:07 <ThibG> can't receive new messages...
Aug 29 20:09:13 <gena2x> i think it can store more than fit to sim.
Aug 29 20:09:35 <gena2x> i think i had more than 20 smses before reflashing
Aug 29 20:09:54 <ThibG> because QtMoko used to delete the SMSs from the SIM...
Aug 29 20:10:17 <ThibG> http://qtmoko.org/wiki/FAQ#Is_there_a_plan_to_make_qtmoko_NOT_touch_the_SMS.27s_on_the_SIM...3F_Big_fail_to_remove_all_SMS.27s_from_SIM_without_warning_the_user..
Aug 29 20:11:37 <gena2x> really, ask radek, he may know this, i just can recall something were wrong with that, but were fixed.
Aug 29 20:11:51 <gena2x> i mean with smses
Aug 29 20:13:28 <ThibG> gena2x, which list?
Aug 29 20:14:45 <gena2x> community
Aug 29 20:15:11 <ThibG> ok
Aug 29 20:15:16 <gena2x> or just wait for him on irc, here or at #qtmoko
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