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Sep 01 06:24:21 <rooly> does shr come with proxy software pre-installed?
Sep 01 06:24:36 <rooly> because that would probably make gprs sharing all around easier
Sep 01 06:38:16 <max_posedon> rooly, the most easiest way to share gprs is NAT imho
**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Sep 01 12:36:30 2010
Sep 01 13:42:09 <cj> moo
Sep 01 13:42:14 <cj> any u-boot heroes about?
Sep 01 13:43:00 <cj> is it possible to boot a kernel off of a jffs2 partition on a nand device?  I've got a sheevaplug that wrote debian to
Sep 01 13:49:29 <cj> *that I wrote debian to
Sep 01 13:56:05 <mwester> you might try asking on #openplug
Sep 01 13:59:55 <gena2x> cj: hey ho. sure possible
Sep 01 14:00:27 <gena2x> cj: booting from jffs2 is working in our version of u-boot
Sep 01 14:00:59 <gena2x> cj: ah, stop
Sep 01 14:01:10 <gena2x> cj: sorry, you mean _kernel_
Sep 01 14:01:20 <gena2x> cj: so, no, i don't know, sorry :)
Sep 01 14:01:43 <gena2x> cj: we flashing it to separate dedicated partition
Sep 01 14:01:50 <gena2x> cj: without fs
Sep 01 16:02:00 <cj> gena2x: okay.  kernel and initrd or just kernel?
Sep 01 16:05:21 <gena2x> we have no initrd now in major distros
Sep 01 16:27:02 <oliver_> hi
Sep 01 19:06:44 <oliver_> bye
Sep 01 19:10:36 <haakeyar> Hello. Are you guys receiving sms reliably on shr unstable now?
Sep 01 19:10:54 <haakeyar> I had some problems earlier this summer/spring with not receiving all sms messages, and moved my sim card to a featurephone.
Sep 01 19:11:14 <haakeyar> I thought it was http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/566
Sep 01 19:11:32 <gena2x> haakeyar: it shr will not work for you, try qtmoko :)
Sep 01 19:11:47 <gena2x> s/it/if/
Sep 01 19:11:47 <apt> gena2x meant: haakeyar: if shr will not work for you, try qtmoko :)
Sep 01 19:12:40 <haakeyar> gena2x: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking about. I have to use the featurephone for something else, so my sim card must go back to my freerunner. And I am wondering wether to use shr unstable or qtmoko.
Sep 01 19:13:51 <gena2x> haakeyar: i think it may be interesting to try both :)
Sep 01 19:18:50 <undrwater> gena2x: have you been following kernel hacking on OM?  
Sep 01 19:21:59 <gena2x> undrwater: following?
Sep 01 19:23:00 <undrwater> gena2x: just wondering how things are moving with 2.6.3x kernels...lots of problems at the outset
Sep 01 19:23:10 <gena2x> undrwater: i think i know what is happening. not really much atm. lars appeared 2 days ago. thibg upstreaming. various people do fixes.
Sep 01 19:23:25 <gena2x> undrwater: lots?
Sep 01 19:23:33 <gena2x> undrwater: i think shr is quite ok on .32
Sep 01 19:23:46 <gena2x> undrwater: only real problem is suspend consumption
Sep 01 19:24:05 <undrwater> screen jitter is gone?
Sep 01 19:24:13 <undrwater> upon resume
Sep 01 19:24:18 <gena2x> touchscreen?
Sep 01 19:24:23 <undrwater> yeah
Sep 01 19:24:30 <gena2x> on .32?
Sep 01 19:24:40 <undrwater> well...i think it was resolution problem
Sep 01 19:24:48 <undrwater> not touchscreen jitter
Sep 01 19:24:53 <gena2x> ah, screen?
Sep 01 19:25:13 <gena2x> my screen is perfect on both .34 and .32 with any rotation
Sep 01 19:25:21 <gena2x> and in both qvga and vga
Sep 01 19:25:23 <undrwater> great!
Sep 01 19:25:30 <undrwater> speedups?
Sep 01 19:25:36 <gena2x> working
Sep 01 19:25:38 <gena2x> :)
Sep 01 19:25:46 <undrwater> awesome...i need to find my phone!
Sep 01 19:25:52 <gena2x> heh
Sep 01 19:26:13 <gena2x> not really something significant
Sep 01 19:26:20 <gena2x> but i like latest qtmoko
Sep 01 19:26:29 <undrwater> if it works smoothly, that's significant
Sep 01 19:26:51 <gena2x> it works smoothly since nobug and FIFO patch in February
Sep 01 19:27:04 <gena2x> *nodebug
Sep 01 19:27:23 <gena2x> if you mean graphic smoothness
Sep 01 19:27:50 <undrwater> no...just no suspend problems...or wake from suspend...wifi working, etc
Sep 01 19:28:26 <gena2x> i afraid some bugs still exisy
Sep 01 19:29:04 <undrwater> always will...i'm ok with that
Sep 01 19:31:04 <gena2x> undrwater: so, main fun will be to try
Sep 01 19:31:14 <gena2x> as for me, i am only opening new interesting things
Sep 01 19:31:25 <gena2x> like i found handwring recently
Sep 01 19:31:37 <gena2x> it works in qtmoko surprisingly well
Sep 01 19:31:48 <gena2x> i just never tried it before
Sep 01 19:31:49 <undrwater> what's handwring?
Sep 01 19:32:04 <gena2x> instead of keyboard
Sep 01 19:32:31 <gena2x> it's really nice, as you have no need to play hit & miss game 
Sep 01 19:32:44 <gena2x> sms, contacts
Sep 01 19:32:50 <undrwater> ah, handwriting?
Sep 01 19:33:01 <undrwater> is this with cellwriter or something?
Sep 01 19:33:03 <gena2x> ah, sure, typo 
Sep 01 19:33:07 <gena2x> nope
Sep 01 19:33:11 <gena2x> it's just native
Sep 01 19:33:15 <undrwater> nice :)
Sep 01 19:33:22 <gena2x> you just writing on the screen
Sep 01 19:33:23 <undrwater> i like illume keyboard...
Sep 01 19:33:33 <undrwater> but i can see where that would be useful too
Sep 01 19:33:35 <gena2x> i'm too fast for it :)
Sep 01 19:34:47 <undrwater> for illume?
Sep 01 19:34:53 <gena2x> yeah
Sep 01 19:35:05 <undrwater> handwriting accepts characters faster than you can type?
Sep 01 19:35:19 <gena2x> hmm
Sep 01 19:35:40 <gena2x> i didn't tryed to compare
Sep 01 19:35:53 <gena2x> i think not
Sep 01 19:36:18 <gena2x> but somehow it's easier to use than keyboard.
Sep 01 19:36:30 <gena2x> may be qtmoko keyboard is far from being perfect
Sep 01 19:38:26 <undrwater> you could compare with illume
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