**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Oct 22 02:59:58 2010
Oct 22 03:08:08 <slaxxer> whatisit
Oct 22 03:08:36 <slaxxer> anybody have the new board up an running?
Oct 22 03:25:30 <slaxxer> yay i can set the time again in shr -u
Oct 22 03:57:33 <slaxxer> what would be the coolest material to make a freerunner case out of?
Oct 22 03:58:02 <pabs3> titanium
Oct 22 03:58:21 <pabs3> anyone know what a purple light on the power button means in SHR?
Oct 22 03:58:39 <slaxxer> not seen it yet
Oct 22 03:59:54 <slaxxer> http://www.pplastic.com/capabilities/
Oct 22 04:00:10 <slaxxer> looks like a typo
Oct 22 04:05:07 <slaxxer> does it work ok?
Oct 22 04:13:00 <slaxxer> u hacked the lights to come on together so it will eat yo batt faster
Oct 22 04:13:10 <slaxxer> stopit
Oct 22 04:14:07 <slaxxer> bluetooth+charge
Oct 22 04:14:29 <slaxxer> turn off bluetooth an see
Oct 22 04:15:14 <slaxxer> http://88.198.93.221/wiki/FreeRunner/Buttons_and_LEDs
Oct 22 04:15:59 <slaxxer> so tell us
Oct 22 04:16:07 <slaxxer> whatisit
Oct 22 04:30:27 <pabs3> I didn't hack anything
Oct 22 08:23:13 <akamit> hi, I'm using SHR with illume2 profile, is it normal that the enlightenment eating 50% cpu all the time? 
Oct 22 08:33:53 <[Rui]> akamit: not really
Oct 22 08:35:19 <[Rui]> see ya
Oct 22 08:36:13 <akamit> how forcibly terminate task from illume interface?
Oct 22 08:37:06 <akamit> is there some task list from which i can select on of the running applications and terminate it?
Oct 22 14:24:01 <Swingerin_25> Swingercluibegleitung?Habe Urlaub. Kontakt, Bilder und mehr über mein Profil "Real-Treff-Maus" auf  << w w w flirtakt c o m  >> 
Oct 22 15:52:26 <nirgal> Hello everyone, I got a Freerunner yesterday, but now the touchscreen is not working anymore. I have "no network", the Aux button tell me "Press unlock then * to unlock the phone". But nothing else works. I have a ssh access... Any idea how to fix that?
Oct 22 15:56:27 <tomcatek> nirgal: what distro do You have?
Oct 22 15:56:51 <nirgal> look like a debian
Oct 22 15:57:21 <nirgal> from the issue file
Oct 22 15:58:08 <nirgal> I have the preinstalled software that comes with the phone
Oct 22 16:01:10 <tomcatek> get some propoer distro then
Oct 22 16:01:47 <nirgal> I have what looks like a kernel traceback in the syslog file, INFO: RCU detected CPU 0 stall (t=4294909948/2000 jiffies) ....
Oct 22 16:02:01 <nirgal> I love debian, is it performing poorly on that device?
Oct 22 16:05:01 <tomcatek> well.. some use it
Oct 22 16:05:56 <tomcatek> with success of course
Oct 22 16:06:30 <tomcatek> nirgal: see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions
Oct 22 16:07:27 <nirgal> it looks like a heavily tuned version, xorg.conf says I should use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but the package is not installed ...
Oct 22 16:08:32 <tomcatek> yes..
Oct 22 16:08:52 <tomcatek> someone mentioned, that configuration is not done
Oct 22 16:09:00 <tomcatek> try apt-get -f install
Oct 22 16:15:59 <Fox_Muldr> i sometimes use raw debian (not qtmoko or hackable)  with xfce on my freerunner and i think it is useable enough for such a little device :)
Oct 22 16:21:17 <Fox_Muldr> is there a simple calendar application for the freerunner which could synchronize over caldav (same that google calendar uses)? i really love this feature and would like to use it on my freerunner :)
Oct 22 16:26:59 <nirgal> When I'm asked on enter the pin, I don't even have a keyboard displayed ...
Oct 22 16:27:40 <tomcatek> try tapping the textfield
Oct 22 16:28:15 <nirgal> I don't think I have a text field
Oct 22 16:28:36 <nirgal> pressing the screen doesn't even reset the lighting to its maximum
Oct 22 16:28:59 <nirgal> I have to press the aux button to get out of the black screen
Oct 22 16:29:14 <nirgal> like there is no pointing device recognized ...
Oct 22 16:29:58 <nirgal> I'm not used to qpe... It's surprising not to have an xorg log file ...
Oct 22 17:01:00 <risca_deb> @ nirgal: to get more infos have a look at the chan #openmoko-debian and see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner
Oct 22 17:01:28 <risca_deb> I'm trying Debian as well, it works but there is a lot to configure and improve.
Oct 22 17:25:32 <fidencio> Howdy! Who's maintaining EFL's packages in OE?
Oct 22 18:02:32 <PBeck> hi
Oct 22 19:36:59 <NeoN> shueloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Oct 22 19:37:00 <Guest57890> :D
Oct 22 23:13:26 <Bert_2> Hi, what is the current recommended version of shr ?
Oct 22 23:15:59 <Bert_2> or is there no longer a recommendation ?
Oct 22 23:17:19 <[Rui]> well, shr-u is working :)
Oct 22 23:17:26 <[Rui]> http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/
Oct 22 23:26:15 <Bert_2> [Rui]: alright
Oct 22 23:26:23 <Bert_2> I've been on the same version for 6 months now
Oct 22 23:26:28 <Bert_2> (been very busy
Oct 22 23:26:30 <Bert_2> )
Oct 22 23:26:32 <[Rui]> :)
Oct 22 23:26:45 <Bert_2> so what's changed in the last 6 months or so ? :p
Oct 22 23:28:24 <[Rui]> beneth`: great (really great) performance improvements would probably be the first thing you'd notice
Oct 22 23:28:30 <[Rui]> Bert_2: I meant that to you
Oct 22 23:28:44 <Bert_2> [Rui]: alright
Oct 22 23:28:53 <[Rui]> Bert_2: I'd still advise to make a backup of what you have in case you want to go back
Oct 22 23:28:56 <Bert_2> and has the messaging app stopped crashing ?
Oct 22 23:29:08 <Bert_2> yeah, I need to get a SD backup going
Oct 22 23:29:15 <Bert_2> cause dfu upload always fails :S
Oct 22 23:29:39 <[Rui]> I don't text a lot, but when I do I don't remember crashes.
Oct 22 23:29:55 <[Rui]> Bert_2: I'd probably advise to run it from µ-sd
Oct 22 23:30:18 <Bert_2> [Rui]: that's interesting, is SD recommended over jffs2 now ? :O
Oct 22 23:30:32 <Bert_2> I need the kernel modules as well then, I guess ?
Oct 22 23:30:59 <[Rui]> Bert_2: I don't know about official recommendations, but if you have a working version in nand, I'd try it out on µ-sd first :)
Oct 22 23:31:07 <[Rui]> I stopped being able to use nand for quite sometime...
Oct 22 23:32:05 <Bert_2> [Rui]: I first used SD, but cards started dying and I read here nand was recommended (turned out some apps ran faster)
Oct 22 23:32:11 <Bert_2> but SD is very easy
Oct 22 23:32:19 <Bert_2> nand is sloooooooooow to flash :p
Oct 22 23:32:19 <[Rui]> yeah...
Oct 22 23:32:26 <[Rui]> yeah :)
Oct 22 23:33:11 <Bert_2> where's the pim data stored again ?
Oct 22 23:33:50 <Bert_2> ow, got it already
Oct 22 23:33:56 <Bert_2> my mind is so aweosme
Oct 22 23:33:57 <Bert_2> *awesome
Oct 22 23:34:27 <Bert_2> all contacts, calls, text messages, etc. are in the pim.db file, right ?
Oct 22 23:34:41 <[Rui]> yes.
Oct 22 23:34:48 <[Rui]> I don't know if it's the same format as 6mo ago
Oct 22 23:34:51 <[Rui]> perhaps yes
Oct 22 23:36:32 <Bert_2> maybe it was just 4 months
Oct 22 23:36:44 <Bert_2> but I don't think much changed since the switch to one database
Oct 22 23:36:56 <[Rui]> yeah
Oct 22 23:36:59 <Bert_2> at least I've got plenty of tables in that file
Oct 22 23:37:07 <[Rui]> what kernel do you have?
Oct 22 23:37:16 <Bert_2> right now ?
Oct 22 23:37:18 <Bert_2> on the machine
Oct 22 23:37:21 <[Rui]> yup
Oct 22 23:37:25 <[Rui]> on the mok
Oct 22 23:37:30 <Bert_2> IDK, let me check
Oct 22 23:37:50 <Bert_2> where's the kernel stored ?
Oct 22 23:37:56 <Bert_2>  /boot doesn't exist :S
Oct 22 23:39:08 <[Rui]> uname -a :)
Oct 22 23:39:17 <[Rui]> (for all)
Oct 22 23:39:22 <Bert_2> Linux om-gta02 2.6.29-rc3 #1 PREEMPT Thu May 13 22:49:59 CEST 2010 armv4tl GNU/Linux
Oct 22 23:39:27 <Bert_2> that's older then I thought :O
Oct 22 23:39:52 <[Rui]> well, you'll definitely notice a speed improvement :)
Oct 22 23:41:07 <Bert_2> [Rui]: it's also terribly slow just because I didn't work on it
Oct 22 23:41:18 <Bert_2> booting got slower and slower
Oct 22 23:42:55 <Bert_2> so, I have the tar gz file
Oct 22 23:43:03 <Bert_2> and the kernel
Oct 22 23:43:08 <Bert_2> do I still need to put the modules in
Oct 22 23:43:15 <Bert_2> or have they been included in the tar gz ?
Oct 22 23:43:20 <[Rui]> if yo uuse the µ-sd image you don't need that
Oct 22 23:44:30 <Bert_2> really ?
Oct 22 23:44:45 <Bert_2> so just the tar gz on one partition and the kernel on the other ?
Oct 22 23:45:03 <[Rui]> just tar.gz on partition 1
Oct 22 23:45:39 <[Rui]> it seems only the shr-lite-image is ready, so while on usb net take the time to install iliwi
Oct 22 23:45:47 <[Rui]> oh, and I think the wizard is still borked
Oct 22 23:46:38 <Bert_2> ow, was the wizard borked then ? :p
Oct 22 23:46:49 <[Rui]> I don't remember
Oct 22 23:47:27 <[Rui]> keep your /etc/phonefsod.conf, exit the wizard when it comes up, and then place your backup phonefsod.conf
Oct 22 23:47:36 <[Rui]> hey, it's unstable ;)
Oct 22 23:48:41 <Bert_2>  k
Oct 22 23:50:07 <Bert_2> I don't doing tricks ;)
Oct 22 23:50:14 <Bert_2> as long as i know about them :p
Oct 22 23:51:31 <[Rui]> well, the wizard should work :(
Oct 22 23:54:42 <Bert_2> windows should work as well, and they're product is supposed to be "finished"
Oct 22 23:54:47 <Bert_2> so we're doing fine :d:p
Oct 22 23:56:42 <Bert_2> okey, I clearly did something wrong here
Oct 22 23:56:44 <Bert_2> it's doing funky
Oct 22 23:56:54 <Bert_2> ow wait, I just put everything in one ext2 partition
Oct 22 23:57:08 <Bert_2> I'm supposed to make a fat32 partition for the kernel, right ?
Oct 22 23:57:14 <[Rui]> no
Oct 22 23:57:36 <[Rui]> just make sure there's a /dev/sdX1 formatted as ext2
Oct 22 23:57:53 <[Rui]> untar the tar.gz into /dev/sdX1's mount point
Oct 22 23:58:03 <Bert_2> I did that
Oct 22 23:58:07 <[Rui]> umount, sync, place sd, boot phone
Oct 22 23:58:19 <Bert_2> maybe it's my bootloader
Oct 22 23:58:20 <[Rui]> are you running Qi or µboot?
Oct 22 23:58:31 <Bert_2> I thought I was using Qi
Oct 22 23:58:37 <Bert_2> but i see uboot here
Oct 22 23:58:40 <Bert_2> that odd
Oct 22 23:58:45 <[Rui]> if µboot, you need to tell it to boot from µ-sd, 
Oct 22 23:58:49 <[Rui]> Qi will try sd first, IIRC
Oct 22 23:58:50 <Bert_2> I did
Oct 22 23:58:53 <Bert_2> I get read errors
Oct 22 23:59:02 <[Rui]> oh... that's bad...
Oct 22 23:59:17 <Bert_2> well, error after cmd stuff
Oct 22 23:59:43 <Bert_2> cmd 0x8 arg 0x1aa flags 0x75
Oct 22 23:59:58 <Bert_2> Error after cmd: 0xfffffffc
Oct 23 00:00:13 <Bert_2> that return a few times
Oct 23 00:00:24 <Bert_2> then no MMC card found
Oct 23 00:00:44 <Bert_2> unable to use mmc 1:1 for fatload
Oct 23 00:01:12 <Bert_2> wrong image format for bootm command
Oct 23 00:01:22 <Bert_2> error: can't get kernel image
Oct 23 00:01:30 <[Rui]> not sure what to tell you
Oct 23 00:01:42 <Bert_2> I think I do need the fat partition
Oct 23 00:01:43 <Bert_2> or Qi
Oct 23 00:01:48 <Bert_2> uBoot can't boot ext afaik
Oct 23 00:01:58 <[Rui]> you need to try to flash Qi on the bootloader part
Oct 23 00:02:11 <Bert_2> where can I find a safe version of Qi ?
Oct 23 00:02:28 <[Rui]> http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/
Oct 23 00:02:55 <Bert_2> the non-ubi version ?
Oct 23 00:02:55 <[Rui]> I gotta go to bed :)
Oct 23 00:02:59 <Bert_2> k
Oct 23 00:03:03 <Bert_2> just flash using dfu ?
Oct 23 00:03:23 <[Rui]> I don't know, but since I have Qi and don't use UBI, I'd say so, yes.
Oct 23 00:03:24 <[Rui]> yup
Oct 23 00:03:39 <Bert_2> alright
Oct 23 00:03:41 <Bert_2> goodnight
Oct 23 00:03:44 <Bert_2> and thanks for your help
Oct 23 00:03:48 <[Rui]> good night and good luck
Oct 23 00:03:48 <[Rui]> np
Oct 23 00:05:08 <Bert_2> thx
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