**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Dec 03 03:00:00 2010
Dec 03 09:26:25 <badcloud_> is there an updated page like this? -> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/List_of_bluetooth_headsets
Dec 03 09:26:51 <badcloud_> the Plantronics 855 is discontinued
Dec 03 12:53:21 <badcloud_> where is the ipk for platform_battery?
Dec 03 13:52:45 <badcloud_> where is the ipk/ko file for platform_battery?
Dec 03 14:06:11 <skamster> how could i change to nand with the ubi-qi?
Dec 03 14:06:17 <skamster> i tried it like in the manual
Dec 03 14:06:29 <skamster> So press power, release power, press aux, wait for vibration, release aux. 
Dec 03 14:06:54 <skamster> but it doens't work
Dec 03 14:07:16 <skamster> since i install it, i came one time into the other system
Dec 03 14:07:30 <skamster> i tried to press aux in many ways
Dec 03 14:07:31 <skamster> :s
Dec 03 14:08:42 <skamster> could someone please help me? before that, it worked fine
Dec 03 14:10:46 <skamster> and i really need that second system.. without, i couldn't start the sd-one (nearly always a fucking fsck-test with fails, then i should press "control - d", so i have to run fsck in the other system)
Dec 03 14:11:17 <gena2x> skamster: are you using shr?
Dec 03 14:11:42 <skamster> i use qtmoko on my sd-card as daily-phone and shr on the nand
Dec 03 14:12:14 <gena2x> skamster: i noticed very bad bug in kms kernel (used in shr). if you mount sd card with kms-kernel, you always end up in broken fs
Dec 03 14:12:35 <gena2x> so, just try always to use non-kms kernel
Dec 03 14:12:58 <gena2x> to avoid completely long fschecks, i am using xfs as filesystem
Dec 03 14:13:08 <skamster> http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/uImage-2.6.34-r5-oe15-om-gta02.bin
Dec 03 14:13:12 <skamster> i tried this one
Dec 03 14:13:45 <skamster> but the checks aren't the mainproblem.. isn't it possible to switch the system in a ubifs-moded qi-bootloader?
Dec 03 14:14:08 <gena2x> i don't know. i am using u-boot
Dec 03 14:14:39 <gena2x> you should change just one kernel option
Dec 03 14:15:17 <skamster> which one?
Dec 03 14:15:18 <skamster> and how
Dec 03 14:15:19 <skamster> ?
Dec 03 14:15:38 <gena2x> mine own: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/U-boot-gena2x
Dec 03 14:16:59 <gena2x> with non-kms kernel i have no problems with sd
Dec 03 14:17:20 <gena2x> (qtmoko's kernel)
Dec 03 14:18:27 <skamster> i've normaly also no problems, but it won't start.. i think, it's more because of the time which gets lost (then nearly every file is in the future)
Dec 03 14:19:50 <badcloud_> hey there gena2x 
Dec 03 14:20:31 <gena2x> skamster: nope, time can't be related to sd problems
Dec 03 14:20:44 <badcloud_> do you know where to find the platform_battery module for .34 kernel?
Dec 03 14:20:55 <badcloud_> I'm giving shr-u a try
Dec 03 14:21:12 <skamster> it's not a main-sd-problem.. i just could't start qtmoko with a fsck-check
Dec 03 14:21:43 <skamster> and i couldn't do a fsck-check, because i couldn't start shr (from nand), because qi start's always qtmoko
Dec 03 14:22:01 <gena2x> skamster: btw it's possible to solder new backup battery and solve time issue
Dec 03 14:22:10 <skamster> i could press aux so many times as i want
Dec 03 14:22:15 <skamster> yeah, i know
Dec 03 14:22:16 <skamster> :)
Dec 03 14:22:39 <skamster> i will do that soon.. but i need my phone sooner :s
Dec 03 14:22:49 <gena2x> badcloud_: hey, cloud. sorry, i don't know about shr.
Dec 03 14:23:08 <badcloud_> ok, thanks
Dec 03 14:23:17 <badcloud_> Im
Dec 03 14:23:37 <gena2x> badcloud_: check /proc/config.gz. but i think shr's .34 kernel is same to qtmoko one
Dec 03 14:23:43 <badcloud_> scratch "Im'
Dec 03 14:23:56 <badcloud_> gena2x: ok
Dec 03 14:24:08 <gena2x> badcloud_: except config
Dec 03 14:24:36 <badcloud_> so where do I find the module if it's not in /lib/modules/2.6.34-x/kernel/drivers/power/ ?
Dec 03 14:24:44 <badcloud_> (online)
Dec 03 14:24:48 <gena2x> skamster: ah, dunno about qi.
Dec 03 14:25:27 <gena2x> badcloud_: it can be compiled it, but i am unsure how this module should be really loaded
Dec 03 14:25:34 <gena2x> *compiled in
Dec 03 14:26:04 <badcloud_> alls I need is the file (.ko) and then run depmod -a
Dec 03 14:26:07 <gena2x> as this is _platform_ battery, probably it should be load on boot somehow, but this need careful reading of kernel source
Dec 03 14:26:55 <gena2x> don't excpect anything really special from shr, kernel is same
Dec 03 14:27:09 <badcloud_> do you know where to find the file though?
Dec 03 14:28:52 <skamster> ah, i've got it
Dec 03 14:30:04 <badcloud_> skamster: where did you get it?
Dec 03 14:30:28 <skamster> directly ON the vibration and the blinking led
Dec 03 14:31:11 <skamster> it's useless to press aux right after press the powerbutton and wait till the vibration is over
Dec 03 14:31:19 <skamster> (like i understand it)
Dec 03 14:34:28 <skamster> gena2: thanks anyway :) i think i will try xfs..
Dec 03 14:39:53 <gena2x> skamster: if you want to use it as rootfs you'll have to recompile kernel to compile it into kernel
Dec 03 14:39:59 <gena2x> :(
Dec 03 14:40:20 <gena2x> but overwise module should be already included to qtmoko and probably shr
Dec 03 14:42:00 <gena2x> skamster: and, i realled what where wrong with time and ext2 :) each time you mount it after resetting time, it were checked hardy. xfs has no such feature.
Dec 03 14:43:12 <gena2x> this is in no way realted to fs contents, check is completely not needed
Dec 03 14:43:41 <gena2x> just it detects that date stamp on fs is in future so it thinks fs is broken
Dec 03 14:58:58 <badcloud_> where can I cram in startup commands in shr?
Dec 03 14:59:03 <badcloud_> similar to rc.local I mean
Dec 03 14:59:08 <skamster> gena2x: yes, i see that also so.. could be a nice workaround till i've got the "time-battery"
Dec 03 14:59:11 <skamster> :)
Dec 03 14:59:19 <skamster> once more a little question
Dec 03 14:59:36 <skamster> does someone know how i could disable as best the tel-function's in shr?
Dec 03 14:59:56 <badcloud_> gena2x: module worked, btw
Dec 03 14:59:58 <badcloud_> :)
Dec 03 15:00:02 <badcloud_> thanks
Dec 03 15:00:19 <skamster> because i like to became calls & sms (for sms at least) on qtmoko
Dec 03 15:00:34 <skamster> and gps and so on shr
Dec 03 15:01:00 <gena2x> badcloud_: so you loading module in shr and getting charging/non-charging status?
Dec 03 15:01:10 <badcloud_> gena2x: yup
Dec 03 15:01:24 <gena2x> badcloud_: nice, and in qtmoko it does not?
Dec 03 15:01:35 <badcloud_> gena2x: it works also in qtmoko
Dec 03 15:01:46 <badcloud_> I just want to run shr for now
Dec 03 15:02:00 <gena2x> badcloud_: nice, so your battery problem sounds solved :)
Dec 03 15:02:31 <badcloud_> gena2x: yup :)
Dec 03 15:10:52 <radekp> gena2x: badcloud_: should i build platform_battery as module in qtmoko?
Dec 03 15:13:57 <radekp> gena2x: btw i have branch qtmoko-v30 now which can be properly merged with shr now
Dec 03 15:14:25 <radekp> gena2x: qtmoko-v29 branch had it wrong...
Dec 03 15:15:15 <radekp> gena2x: if you do git merge v2.6.34.7 on qtmoko-v30 you will end up with same sources as SHR
Dec 03 15:15:51 <gena2x> radekp: ah, really, i forgot about that .7
Dec 03 15:16:08 <radekp> gena2x: i also plan to try merging 2.6.35 and 2.6.36 and so on...
Dec 03 15:16:57 <gena2x> radekp: do you know that larsc already tried .36, found some regressions and decided to wait for .37 for next attempt?
Dec 03 15:17:44 <radekp> gena2x: i spent like 5 hours yesterday with mering and ensuring everything is ok, so qtmoko-v30 should be ok (althought i havent tried to compile it yet ;-)
Dec 03 15:17:55 <radekp> gena2x: yup i know
Dec 03 15:18:22 <radekp> gena2x: i want to try different strategy - not sure if it will work, but for fun
Dec 03 15:19:03 <radekp> gena2x: i will do merging instead of rebasing - and it should be possible to find commits which cause regressions then
Dec 03 15:20:11 <radekp> gena2x: if it will work we could maybe even catch mainline kernel and keep with it
Dec 03 15:20:36 <gena2x> radekp: i think upstream will welcome your efforts in finding regressions :)
Dec 03 15:21:02 <radekp> but dunno if it will work - i was able to merge even 2.6.37, but there were a lot of conflict
Dec 03 15:21:36 <radekp> oki, g2g now, cu later
Dec 03 15:21:47 <gena2x> cu
Dec 03 15:23:59 <gena2x> radekp: i think best idea (for qtmoko) is to fix known issues, and where is no hurry in getting .37 or .36 with fresh new bugs,
Dec 03 15:24:46 <radekp> gena2x: yup, it will be just test
Dec 03 15:25:12 <gena2x> radekp: i see you merged drm and kms also, i'll try again, but if it will crash my sd again, i had to stay on v29 brnach
Dec 03 15:25:40 <gena2x> radekp: ah, or you probably just not turn it on in config, then ok
Dec 03 15:27:17 <radekp> gena2x: yup not enabled, i keep my old config, i spent too much time with it to replace it with something else :)
Dec 03 15:27:39 <radekp> oki cu, finally :)
Dec 03 16:03:07 <badcloud_> where can I stick startup commands in shr-u's fs?
Dec 03 16:07:37 <badcloud_> anyone know why I'm getting this in shr-u when running opkg update?  * pkg_parse_from_stream_nomalloc: Excessively long line at 10. Corrupt file?
Dec 03 16:25:20 <badcloud_> nm, gonna reflash
Dec 03 17:08:58 <badcloud_> pretty dumb question, but how do I change icon themes?
Dec 03 17:12:01 <badcloud_> great, now I chose the neo theme in elementary settings and x won't start
Dec 03 17:12:35 <badcloud_> what file needs to be edited to switch back to gry?
Dec 03 17:37:33 <djp_> badcloud_: youusing shr-u?
Dec 03 17:38:20 * djp_ requests that all readers of above comment put a space between "you" and "using"... ;)
Dec 03 18:10:13 <badcloud_> djp_: yup, why
Dec 03 18:10:15 <badcloud_> ?
Dec 03 23:40:39 <badcloud_> could someone help me figure out shr's boot order? I'd like to instert some commands before x
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