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Jan 31 10:29:42 <mrmoku> tim_abell: hi, still having problems with fsodeviced? Check if your alsa statefiles are ok. My guess would be broken statefiles...
Jan 31 13:08:30 <tim_abell> hiya, thanks mrmoku but i've given up now. off to buy an n900
Jan 31 13:09:31 <tim_abell> the deal breaker is the 80 euro to get it buzzfixed
Jan 31 13:10:10 <tim_abell> at least the maemo n900 is still a linux phone with some degree of openness and community
Jan 31 13:11:59 <badcloud> tim_abell: the n900 requires buzzfix too?
Jan 31 13:12:22 <tim_abell> eh?
Jan 31 13:13:24 <badcloud> 15:07:52 < tim_abell> hiya, thanks mrmoku but i've given up now. off to buy an n900
Jan 31 13:13:27 <badcloud> 15:08:56 < tim_abell> the deal breaker is the 80 euro to get it buzzfixed
Jan 31 13:14:08 <badcloud> or were you talking about freerunners
Jan 31 13:16:14 <tim_abell> yeah, i mean the 80 euro to get the freerunner fixed isn't worth it when there's no prospect of having a stable phone any time soon, and the n900 is an attractive device
Jan 31 13:16:37 <tim_abell> i'll still be able to run python :D
Jan 31 13:16:55 <tim_abell> and the person on the other end of the phone won't tell me they can't hear me
Jan 31 13:17:18 <tim_abell> at least i put my money behind my ideology and bought a freerunner
Jan 31 13:17:55 <badcloud> I feel that. also, physical keyboard ftw
Jan 31 13:18:12 <tim_abell> but even though I'm off I still wish all the best to those still committed to the openmoko project(s)
Jan 31 13:18:29 <tim_abell> so long and thanks for all the fish, as they say
Jan 31 13:19:26 <badcloud> oh well
Jan 31 13:19:48 <tim_abell> it's certainly been fun
Jan 31 13:20:01 <tim_abell> and the n900 didn't exist when i bought the freerunner
Jan 31 13:21:10 <PaulFertser> tim_abell: 80 euro?
Jan 31 13:21:22 <PaulFertser> tim_abell: for 15 minutes of work?
Jan 31 13:21:51 <mrmoku> tim_abell: well... somehow I can follow your reasoning... and hopefully in a not so far future we'll be able to spoil n900 with SHR too :P
Jan 31 13:22:43 <tim_abell> http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Buzz-Rework&referer=Neo%20Freerunner
Jan 31 13:23:12 <tim_abell> shr on n900 would certainly be cool
Jan 31 13:27:24 <PaulFertser> tim_abell: too bad you're not able to find a local fellow to do the rework...
Jan 31 13:28:02 <mrmoku> tim_abell: SHR is already being built and is running for/on n900... just does not work as phone yet
Jan 31 13:28:15 <tim_abell> yeah, i could have a go but I don't really fancy breaking it
Jan 31 13:28:53 <PaulFertser> tim_abell: i mean for anybody who does smd soldering even occassionally, the buzz fix rework is rather easy.
Jan 31 14:01:16 <aloniv1> Is it possible to use a Hebrew dictionary with the illume keyboard?
Jan 31 14:05:08 <aloniv1> The Hebrew keyboard was recognised by the phone, but I didn't manage to use it when using the Hebrew keyboard.
Jan 31 14:05:23 <aloniv1> *The Hebrew dictionary
Jan 31 14:07:37 <badcloud> aloniv1: shr?
Jan 31 14:07:52 <aloniv1> no - openmoko 2009.
Jan 31 14:08:44 <aloniv1> (I tried to install the Hebrew keyboard on SHR testing but it didn't work.)
Jan 31 14:08:49 <badcloud> English kbd/dict works?
Jan 31 14:09:08 <badcloud> aloniv1: I've tried Hebrew kbd in SHR before without any problems
Jan 31 14:09:10 <aloniv1> yes it seems to work fine on the default keyboard
Jan 31 14:09:43 <badcloud> not sure about om 2009. keep asking until you bump into someone who knows how to tweak that
Jan 31 14:09:53 <aloniv1> The Hebrew keyboard works fine in OM 2009 - I just can;t get the dictionary working.
Jan 31 14:10:05 <badcloud> aloniv1: I understand
Jan 31 14:10:20 <aloniv1> Can you use a Hebrew dictionary on SHR-unstable?
Jan 31 14:10:41 <badcloud> never tried... I'm using qtmoko now
Jan 31 14:10:56 <badcloud> I don't think it has a Heb kbd
Jan 31 14:14:35 <PaulFertser> aloniv1: in fact om2009 was a strange fork of shr distro, almost nobody used it anyway.
Jan 31 14:15:47 <aloniv1> Unfortunately, I had problems with SHR (e.g. couldn't receive sms messages), so I stuck with OM 2009.
Jan 31 16:04:34 <PBeck> hi
Jan 31 16:04:46 <aloniv> hello
Jan 31 19:10:37 <Dervish_> hello
Feb 01 01:17:49 <linuxxr> wathell
Feb 01 02:11:44 <Broam> hi
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