**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Feb 09 02:59:57 2011
Feb 09 12:06:53 <shade-khv1_> Hello there!
Feb 09 12:07:14 <shade-khv1_> Is anyone alive?
Feb 09 12:08:01 <shade-khv1_> I need help
Feb 09 12:08:34 <shade-khv1_> Anyone hear me?
Feb 09 12:12:30 <SpeedEvil> with?
Feb 09 12:14:16 <sfb_> Ya me, but i need help too
Feb 09 12:16:23 <sfb_> just fucked up the touchscreen by opening the FR to clean the screen, as a result the touch is registered some centimeters away so that i can even enter my pin
Feb 09 12:17:05 <shade-khv1_> Hello
Feb 09 12:17:15 <shade-khv1_> I want to start develop
Feb 09 12:17:20 <shade-khv1_> for qt
Feb 09 12:17:48 <shade-khv1_> but i get lost in all these variants on openmoko devel page
Feb 09 12:18:01 <shade-khv1_> what i should start from?
Feb 09 12:18:13 <shade-khv1_> A am working under Ubuntu 10.10
Feb 09 12:18:31 <shade-khv1_> bul all articles written for ubuntu 8.10
Feb 09 12:18:53 <sfb_> srry wrong guy i think i#m almost the only one using the fr since years without beeing able to code
Feb 09 12:19:08 <specing> xD
Feb 09 12:19:28 <specing> shade-khv1_: *Trolololol*
Feb 09 12:19:53 <shade-khv1_> Looks like noone can help me ^(
Feb 09 12:20:00 <shade-khv1_> Huiovo ^(
Feb 09 12:21:05 <sfb_> someone has an idea for my problem?
Feb 09 12:21:07 <PaulFertser> shade-khv1_: what are you talking about?
Feb 09 12:21:44 <PaulFertser> sfb_: if you're sure you've damaged your TS, you have to exchange the whole LCD module :(
Feb 09 12:22:02 <sfb_> basicly i got to recallibrate the screen i think but as dont know how too code im absolutely clueless concerning HW aswll
Feb 09 12:22:37 <sfb_> no i'm not sure
Feb 09 12:22:41 <specing> sfb_: Atlest you have a fr :)
Feb 09 12:22:54 <sfb_> yes i do
Feb 09 12:23:15 <specing> Im still wondering if I should buy one now or wait until GTA04 comes out
Feb 09 12:23:19 <PaulFertser> sfb_: recalibrating shouldn't be too hard, but i do not remember the program name SHR uses. Is that your distro?
Feb 09 12:23:58 <sfb_> im testing lots of them but i like shr and qtmoko
Feb 09 12:24:17 <sfb_> i think i have too ssh to the device anf then...?
Feb 09 12:24:38 <sfb_> and yes gta04 is an interesting project i find
Feb 09 12:25:33 <sfb_> and how could i damage the TS by wiping it clean?
Feb 09 12:28:01 <PaulFertser> sfb_: unlikely that can lead to any damage.
Feb 09 12:28:25 <PaulFertser> sfb_: http://www.mail-archive.com/shr-user@lists.shr-project.org/msg03094.html
Feb 09 12:32:34 <sfb_> i think so too, i'm at work right now and i think i shouldn be messing around with my phone but i could concentrate with the thing broken, gonna test this racall tonight thanx for youre effort Paul
Feb 09 12:57:46 <shade-khv1_> PaulFertser i am want to develop app for openmoko
Feb 09 12:58:03 <shade-khv1_> i am looking how to start
Feb 09 12:58:14 <shade-khv1_> how to compilr et least hello eorld
Feb 09 12:58:21 <shade-khv1_> *compile
Feb 09 13:00:42 <[Rui]> shade-khv1_: well, if you want to contribute to SHR, it would be useful for you to learn Enlightenment Foundation Libraries
Feb 09 13:00:43 <PaulFertser> shade-khv1_: i'm unsure what to say. Openmoko Freerunner is a small portable computer running GNU/Linux. You can develop apps any way you like to do.
Feb 09 13:00:58 <PaulFertser> shade-khv1_: you can even use python and hence there'll be no need to compile anything.
Feb 09 13:01:01 <[Rui]> shade-khv1_: if you want to contribute to Qtmoko, it would be useful for you to learn Qt and QtExtended
Feb 09 13:01:24 <[Rui]> shade-khv1_: I don't know what's the main GUI of the debian version, lindi- ?
Feb 09 13:01:46 <[Rui]> by "main" I mean that which should be focused on in order to share the most libraries possible in order to save the most memory possible :)
Feb 09 13:02:55 <asthro> It depends on which distro you want to work...
Feb 09 13:03:14 <shade-khv1_> asthro SHR, isuupose
Feb 09 13:04:01 <shade-khv1_> maybe qt moko (i am familiar with qt, i was developed some database clients usinig desctop qt)
Feb 09 13:05:12 <shade-khv1_> i am trying to config toolchain
Feb 09 13:05:44 <shade-khv1_> but i have error  * Cannot find package libmokoui2-dev.
Feb 09 13:05:55 <asthro> QtMoko is based on debian, but uses Qt in framebuffer mode
Feb 09 13:06:07 <shade-khv1_> when i trying to opkg-target install libmokoui2-dev gconf-dbus-dev
Feb 09 13:06:42 <shade-khv1_> and then om-conf openmoko-sample2 wont work? maybe beacuse if it
Feb 09 13:07:33 <asthro> you're on Debian isn't it ?
Feb 09 13:08:35 <shade-khv1_> Ubuntu 10.10
Feb 09 13:09:16 <shade-khv1_> trying to perform http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain 
Feb 09 13:10:22 <asthro> you can apt-get install libmokoui2-dev
Feb 09 13:11:30 <[Rui]> shade-khv1_: for SHR, it's better to go to shr-project.org and check the toolchain instruction posted there.
Feb 09 13:11:38 <[Rui]> shade-khv1_: nowadays, it's pretty straight forward
Feb 09 13:11:56 <shade-khv1_> but i did it before 
Feb 09 13:12:10 <shade-khv1_> near string "For Ubuntu 8.04 ( Previous versions don't support libmokoui2 ) the following is required" in wiki
Feb 09 13:12:29 <[Rui]> forget that :)
Feb 09 13:13:00 <shade-khv1_> Rui
Feb 09 13:13:08 <shade-khv1_> thank
Feb 09 13:13:12 <shade-khv1_> i will try
Feb 09 13:22:36 <sfb_> Hi there me again; i used a virginal QTmoko and its callibration routine and seemingly it fixed my problem...
Feb 09 13:24:53 <shade-khv1_> congratilations ^)
Feb 09 13:27:05 <shade-khv1_> why no any notion written about shr-project.org on openmoko wiki developers page?
Feb 09 13:35:59 <[Rui]> shade-khv1_: that wiki is a bit outdated
Feb 09 13:39:53 <shade-khv1_> Rui but it can be updated? I not familiar with wiki systems and i suppose i havent access, but someone have?
Feb 09 13:40:21 <shade-khv1_> i leaves for a while
Feb 09 13:40:51 <shade-khv1_> Rui thanks again GIT is building
Feb 09 13:43:09 <[Rui]> shade-khv1_: sure, you're welcome! :)
Feb 09 13:43:19 <[Rui]> shade-khv1_: it can be updated, of course.
Feb 10 02:14:40 <zrafa> somebody uses gamerunner here?
Feb 10 02:15:03 <zrafa> I am releasing gamerunner 0.3 :) and I would like to know if somebody is interested to test it as well
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