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Feb 17 07:57:52 <adiblol> wtf is happening? at fresh debian install i cant have working X11.
Feb 17 07:57:54 <adiblol>  xserver-xorg-input-evdev : Depends: xorg-input-abi-11
Feb 17 07:57:54 <adiblol>                             Depends: xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.8.99.904) but it is not going to be installed
Feb 17 07:57:54 <adiblol>  xserver-xorg-video-glamo : Depends: xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.6.99.900) but it is not going to be installed
Feb 17 08:00:44 <adiblol> aptitude cant handle these dependencies either.
Feb 17 08:16:32 <chomwitt> i have shr-u . accidentaly my filesystem got full and now it wont start. any suggestions?
Feb 17 08:16:57 <chomwitt> (i get relative message in boot up messages)
Feb 17 08:19:29 <adiblol> ssh doesnt work?
Feb 17 08:20:06 <adiblol> remove the sd card from FR and delete needless files from PC
Feb 17 08:20:11 <chomwitt> adiblol: i didnt try cause the boot freezes 
Feb 17 08:21:05 <chomwitt> adiblol: i'll try that . one moment,
Feb 17 08:21:27 <adiblol> if it is NAND problem, install some distro on sd card and ssh to it, mount NAND and delete unwanted files
Feb 17 08:25:45 <chomwitt> adiblol: thanks for the ideas.
Feb 17 08:32:41 <chomwitt> adiblol: my sd-card is ok. so i'll try the other way u mentioned (for first time in my life!) . Is there a guide? I mean how would i boot that sd image?
Feb 17 08:33:56 <adiblol> just install any gnu/linux on sd card
Feb 17 08:34:02 <adiblol> create a /boot directory
Feb 17 08:34:11 <adiblol> (requires Qi)
Feb 17 08:34:17 <adiblol> or create boot partition
Feb 17 08:34:23 <adiblol> (u-boot compatible)
Feb 17 08:34:55 <adiblol> and copy kernel there
Feb 17 08:36:00 <chomwitt> adiblol: u mean to take a kernel from one of the GTA02 dists (shr,qtmoko..etc) ?
Feb 17 08:36:18 <adiblol> or install it as debian package ;)
Feb 17 09:30:06 <chomwitt> Cannot claim interface 2: could not claim interface 2: Operation not permitted
Feb 17 09:30:18 <chomwitt> thats the message i got trying to flash Qi
Feb 17 09:46:13 <PaulFertser> chomwitt: you have to use dfu-util with sudo 
Feb 17 09:46:44 <chomwitt> in debian i have to be root?
Feb 17 09:47:12 <PaulFertser> chomwitt: yes
Feb 17 09:48:52 <chomwitt> i hade some progress...(hope good one) thanks
Feb 17 09:59:43 <chomwitt> i keep seeing the u-boot menu so i guess sth went wrong..
Feb 17 10:00:35 <chomwitt> http://pastebin.com/8VsAcipw
Feb 17 10:02:08 <chomwitt> and i dont understand how since qi is a boot-loader there is caution message to use shr related or openmoko related qi file (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi#Requirements)
Feb 17 10:03:20 <PaulFertser> chomwitt: are you sure you're not booting to NOR u-boot?
Feb 17 10:04:01 <chomwitt> no. i guess i dont understand that issue. 
Feb 17 10:04:04 <chomwitt> :-(
Feb 17 10:05:49 <chomwitt> i'm reading http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_the_Neo_FreeRunner#Log_into_U-Boot_in_the_NOR_Flash
Feb 17 10:06:07 <chomwitt> i wasnt aware of that distionction
Feb 17 10:07:56 <PaulFertser> chomwitt: and yes, you shouldn't boot to OS ever by using NOR u-boot. NOR u-boot is useful only for flashing via dfu-util as it has enough bugs to not work nicely for booting any distro.
Feb 17 10:10:01 <chomwitt> thanks
Feb 17 20:12:09 <chomwitt> i tried to boot another distro qt-moko  from sd card with no success. i've installed qi but it boots in my nand SHR. 
Feb 17 20:26:44 <solly> maybe because your sd card isn't supported
Feb 17 20:26:54 <solly> I have had that problem
Feb 17 20:27:25 <solly> some makes/models just don't work with the neo
Feb 17 20:30:58 <adiblol> or you didnt properly insert the card.
Feb 17 20:31:29 <adiblol> try to NOT push it as far as possible, leave a millimetre or two instead
Feb 17 20:35:12 <chomwitt> the booting stop with a kernel panic, saying:mmc1:new high speed SDHC card at adrress 1234  -  mmcblk0: mmc1:1234 SA08G 7.42 GiB -  mmcblk0: unknown partition table - VFS: Cannot open root device "mmcblk0p1" - Please append a correct "root=" boot option; here are the available partitions
Feb 17 20:36:25 <chomwitt> kernel-panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (179,1)
Feb 17 20:39:39 <solly> chomwitt: this *can* be the wrong card 
Feb 17 20:40:03 <chomwitt> i ordered it for the same place i get my neo..
Feb 17 20:41:00 <solly> ah ok - if it is on the supported list (which is probably out of date)
Feb 17 20:41:22 <solly> it could still be just that card though
Feb 17 20:42:01 <solly> you could try just installing qtmoko again
Feb 17 20:42:12 <solly> or buy another card :)
Feb 17 20:42:56 <solly> I had one that partitioned and formatted fine on a laptop
Feb 17 20:43:06 <solly> that te neo would not work with
Feb 17 20:47:58 <chomwitt> anyway the card was accesible from shr, so i guess that is a qi problem ?
Feb 17 20:54:27 <solly> if the card worked properly from a nand install, I think you can ignore what I've said :)
Feb 17 20:55:09 <solly> so yes - flash an upto date qi and maybe try reinstalling qtmoko on the card.
Feb 17 20:55:16 <adiblol> the new kernel 2.6.34 from debian repo has missing touchscreen calibration in /sys
Feb 17 20:55:18 <solly> which version of qtmoko?
Feb 18 00:15:50 <khorben> if not posted already: http://nokiaplanq.com/
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