**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Feb 19 02:59:57 2011
Feb 19 10:16:37 <|Animeking|> So, its a mobile phone yet why don't I ever read about its capability of talking to people? o.O (Not trolling, just something I've never heard anyone talk about).
Feb 19 10:26:13 <lindi-> |Animeking|: I've filed several bug reports about that
Feb 19 10:26:22 <|Animeking|> :/
Feb 19 10:26:41 <|Animeking|> So, it doesn't have the capability to call people?
Feb 19 10:27:12 <[Rui]> lindi-: I got a new WS situation coming up since 20110211
Feb 19 10:27:29 <[Rui]> lindi-: sometimes, I get that WS when coming out of suspend.
Feb 19 10:28:28 <[Rui]> |Animeking|: what doesn't?
Feb 19 10:29:21 <lindi-> |Animeking|: do you have the capability to read bug reports? ;)
Feb 19 10:29:51 <|Animeking|> Where are the bugs reported than :| 
Feb 19 10:30:16 <|Animeking|> Hmm
Feb 19 10:31:18 <|Animeking|> i see a wiki with a few nice things on it but no place for bug reports lol...unless its in one of the other links
Feb 19 10:32:53 <|Animeking|> it was in the docs :/
Feb 19 10:33:26 <lindi-> |Animeking|: yeah e.g. http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket//2335
Feb 19 10:39:09 <[Rui]> |Animeking|: if you mean about the Freerunner, I use it as my main phone, so yes it has the capability to be used to talk to people.
Feb 19 10:39:18 <|Animeking|> Ah
Feb 19 10:39:48 <|Animeking|> Yeah, thats what i meant. :/ I just recall seeing a lot of youtube comments about people asking about its capability as a phone yet no response lol
Feb 19 10:40:00 <|Animeking|> So, all the hardware is open, right? o_O
Feb 19 10:41:17 <[Rui]> |Animeking|: depends on the definition... it's the most open phone, yes. but the hardware is obsolete and 4 of it's 5 computers depend on proprietary firmware. at least the main operating system has a clean way to interact with them, so it's a lot better in that regard.
Feb 19 10:41:43 <|Animeking|> ah
Feb 19 10:42:09 <[Rui]> wifi, gsm, gps and bt use private firmware loaded
Feb 19 10:43:18 <lindi-> [Rui]: I'm not sure if AT is particularly clean way :)
Feb 19 10:44:16 <[Rui]> lindi-: a lot cleaner than having a private driver
Feb 19 10:44:35 <lindi-> [Rui]: you mean non-free?
Feb 19 10:44:40 <[Rui]> yup
Feb 19 10:51:30 <adiblol> udev doesn't detect SD card, any way to fix it?
Feb 19 10:51:45 <adiblol> after manually mknod'ing everything works.
Feb 19 11:21:39 <adiblol> seems that GSM activity destabilizes my SD card, is it possible?
Feb 19 11:24:25 <lindi-> adiblol: surely
Feb 19 11:25:00 <adiblol> and it is dependent of kernel, too.
Feb 19 11:31:02 <adiblol> hard to reproduce.
Feb 19 14:45:42 <adiblol> xserver-xorg-video-glamo : Depends: xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.6.99.900) but it is not going to be installed
Feb 19 14:45:54 <adiblol> xserver-xorg-core	2:1.9.4-1
Feb 19 14:45:59 <adiblol> "too new" xorg-core?
Feb 19 14:50:43 <adiblol> wtf? no problem on PC.
Feb 19 14:50:51 <adiblol> aptitude -s install xserver-xorg-video-glamo -> Would download/install/remove packages.
Feb 19 15:10:30 <lindi-> adiblol: that's been on debian-x I think
Feb 19 15:22:17 <adiblol> downgrading xorg helped
Feb 19 16:35:34 <PBeck> hi
Feb 19 17:20:59 <Broam> hi PBeck
Feb 19 17:23:13 <PBeck> hi Broam 
Feb 19 17:25:36 <Broam> what's up?
Feb 19 17:37:08 <PBeck> Broam: not much :) My n900 fits best for me ;)
Feb 19 17:37:32 <PBeck> Broam: but i follow openmoko ;) I hope the best for gta04 and more :)
Feb 19 17:37:35 <Broam> I'm using my HTC magic for two reasons: GSM 850 and bluetooth response on suspend
Feb 19 17:37:50 <Broam> I like my Moko though, and shoul dprobably use it again soon
Feb 19 17:38:27 <PBeck> ;)
Feb 19 20:25:29 <adiblol> does anyone know how to enable printing init messages to tty on debian on freerunner?
Feb 19 20:25:37 <adiblol> printing kernel messages work.
Feb 19 20:48:36 <pespin> adiblol, yo have to increase the kenrle debug level  afaij
Feb 19 20:48:39 <pespin> *afaik
Feb 19 20:48:44 <adiblol> no.
Feb 19 20:49:00 <adiblol> this only causes kernel messages to show
Feb 19 20:49:16 <adiblol> init messages arent being printed.
Feb 19 20:49:31 <pespin> no idea then sorry ;)
Feb 19 20:50:19 <adiblol> qtmoko (based on debian lenny) shows them, but every 'newer' debian install i tried dont.
Feb 19 21:32:55 <adiblol> kernel seems to ignore init's output and doesn't redirect it to tty.
Feb 19 21:41:19 <adiblol> works! after adding console=tty0 to kernel command line
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