**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Apr 11 02:59:57 2011
Apr 11 13:47:30 <berd> hello @ all
Apr 11 13:48:02 <berd> does some one work with ubuntu 10.10
Apr 11 13:48:16 <berd> and android on freerunner ?
Apr 11 13:48:19 <PaulFertser> berd: on freerunner?
Apr 11 13:48:27 <PaulFertser> berd: do you mean you want to run ubuntu on fr?
Apr 11 13:48:39 <berd> no
Apr 11 13:49:00 <berd> the os on my pc is ubuntu 10.10
Apr 11 13:49:27 <berd> distri on freerunner is android on freerunner
Apr 11 13:49:44 <berd> Paul do you speak german ?
Apr 11 13:50:37 <berd> i couldnt connect my freerunner
Apr 11 13:50:47 <berd> with my pc
Apr 11 13:51:00 <berd> can some one help me ?
Apr 11 13:51:13 <berd> please
Apr 11 13:51:15 <berd> ?
Apr 11 13:51:22 <PaulFertser> Berd do you speak russian? ;)
Apr 11 13:51:38 <berd> now ;-)
Apr 11 13:51:43 <radekp> berd: hi, can you ping the freerunner?
Apr 11 13:51:58 <PaulFertser> He has a non-unix distro on his FR, i have no clue about it.
Apr 11 13:52:09 <PaulFertser> "adb shell" probably is what he should read about.
Apr 11 13:52:25 <berd> what is the standart ip of the fr ?
Apr 11 13:52:50 <berd> i use adb but it doesnt work
Apr 11 13:53:09 <berd> the problem is 
Apr 11 13:53:14 <radekp> 192.168.0.202 is quite common ip for freerunner
Apr 11 13:53:42 <radekp> if you cant ping you cant use adb
Apr 11 13:53:46 <radekp> you need ping first
Apr 11 13:53:54 <berd> that i can see the fr in the network device list
Apr 11 13:54:04 <berd> but its dark gray
Apr 11 13:54:27 <berd> sometimes ive a connection for a few seconds
Apr 11 13:54:42 <berd> but then the connection breaks
Apr 11 13:55:03 <PaulFertser> berd: do you have static ip defined for the interface, corresponding to FR?
Apr 11 13:55:39 <PaulFertser> s/,//
Apr 11 13:55:39 <apt> PaulFertser meant: berd: do you have static ip defined for the interface corresponding to FR?
Apr 11 13:56:22 <radekp> berd: you can try to run this script as root: http://pastie.org/1782829 and then please paste what command "ifconfig" outputs
Apr 11 13:56:40 <radekp> berd: and try ping 192.168.0.202
Apr 11 13:56:40 <berd> i try to give the network interface corresponding to fr a static ip
Apr 11 13:57:07 <berd> but ubuntu didnt save the ip and the subnet mask
Apr 11 13:57:36 <PaulFertser> If you mean you're using network-manager, i can't really help here.
Apr 11 13:57:38 <berd> okay wait i try it
Apr 11 14:02:57 <berd> ./pastie: Zeile 1: !/bin/bash: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
Apr 11 14:02:57 <berd> SIOCSIFADDR: Keine Berechtigung
Apr 11 14:02:57 <berd> usb0: FEHLER beim Auslesen der Schnittstellenmerker: Kein passendes Gerät gefunden
Apr 11 14:02:57 <berd> SIOCSIFADDR: Keine Berechtigung
Apr 11 14:02:57 <berd> eth1: FEHLER beim Auslesen der Schnittstellenmerker: Kein passendes Gerät gefunden
Apr 11 14:02:58 <berd> SIOCSIFADDR: Keine Berechtigung
Apr 11 14:03:00 <berd> eth2: FEHLER beim Auslesen der Schnittstellenmerker: Kein passendes Gerät gefunden
Apr 11 14:03:02 <berd> SIOCSIFADDR: Keine Berechtigung
Apr 11 14:03:04 <berd> eth3: FEHLER beim Auslesen der Schnittstellenmerker: Kein passendes Gerät gefunden
Apr 11 14:03:08 <berd> FATAL: Error inserting ip_tables (/lib/modules/2.6.35-28-generic/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.ko): Operation not permitted
Apr 11 14:03:11 <berd> iptables v1.4.4: can't initialize iptables table `nat': Permission denied (you must be root)
Apr 11 14:03:12 <PaulFertser> berd: do not paste here
Apr 11 14:03:13 <berd> Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.
Apr 11 14:03:15 <berd> ./pastie: Zeile 7: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward: Keine Berechtigung
Apr 11 14:03:17 <berd> FATAL: Error inserting ip_tables (/lib/modules/2.6.35-28-generic/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.ko): Operation not permitted
Apr 11 14:03:20 <berd> iptables v1.4.4: can't initialize iptables table `filter': Permission denied (you must be root)
Apr 11 14:03:22 <berd> Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.
Apr 11 14:03:24 <berd> sven@sven-K50IJ:~$ sudo ./pastie
Apr 11 14:03:26 <berd> [sudo] password for sven: 
Apr 11 14:03:28 <berd> ./pastie: Zeile 1: !/bin/bash: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
Apr 11 14:03:29 <berd> SIOCSIFADDR: Kein passendes Gerät gefunden
Apr 11 14:03:32 <berd> usb0: FEHLER beim Auslesen der Schnittstellenmerker: Kein passendes Gerät gefunden
Apr 11 14:03:33 <berd> SIOCSIFADDR: Kein passendes Gerät gefunden
Apr 11 14:03:35 <PaulFertser> berd: waiting to be kicked?
Apr 11 14:03:37 <berd> eth1: FEHLER beim Auslesen der Schnittstellenmerker: Kein passendes Gerät gefunden
Apr 11 14:03:39 <berd> SIOCSIFADDR: Kein passendes Gerät gefunden
Apr 11 14:03:41 <berd> eth2: FEHLER beim Auslesen der Schnittstellenmerker: Kein passendes Gerät gefunden
Apr 11 14:03:43 <berd> SIOCSIFADDR: Kein passendes Gerät gefunden
Apr 11 14:03:45 <berd> eth3: FEHLER beim Auslesen der Schnittstellenmerker: Kein passendes Gerät gefunden
Apr 11 14:03:47 <berd> were ?
Apr 11 14:03:49 <berd> sorry i use irc first time
Apr 11 14:04:12 <radekp> berd: better to use pastie.org for large texts
Apr 11 14:04:13 <berd> were should i paste it ?
Apr 11 14:04:30 <radekp> berd: http://pastie.org/
Apr 11 14:05:17 <radekp> berd: paste it there and give us just the url with result
Apr 11 14:06:24 <berd> okay
Apr 11 14:06:39 <berd> language: bash ?
Apr 11 14:06:41 * PaulFertser never understood using anything but LC_MESSAGES=C :/
Apr 11 14:07:20 <radekp> berd: anything you like :)
Apr 11 14:07:57 <berd> http://pastie.org/1782880
Apr 11 14:08:21 <berd> how can i change the terminal language in english ?
Apr 11 14:10:57 <berd> it looks like the system didnt find usb0 & eth1 - eth3
Apr 11 14:12:08 <radekp> berd: you didnt do it as root probably
Apr 11 14:12:19 <radekp> berd: let's try it once more...
Apr 11 14:12:24 <radekp> berd: do this:
Apr 11 14:12:29 <radekp> berd: wget http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/download/neo.sh
Apr 11 14:12:37 <radekp> berd: sudo ./neo.sh
Apr 11 14:12:54 <radekp> berd: ifcofing
Apr 11 14:13:05 <radekp> berd: erm ifconfig
Apr 11 14:13:26 <radekp> and give me output of ifconfig and also try ping 192.168.0.202
Apr 11 14:13:34 <berd> i try it with sudo su
Apr 11 14:13:52 <berd> the pastie script
Apr 11 14:13:55 <radekp> oki
Apr 11 14:13:57 <berd> same result
Apr 11 14:14:43 <berd> thanks for your help guys im so glad :-)
Apr 11 14:19:37 <radekp> berd: and does it work?
Apr 11 14:19:51 <berd> im not abble to run the neo.sh script
Apr 11 14:20:02 <radekp> ahh sorry then try:
Apr 11 14:20:08 <radekp> chmox +x neo.sh
Apr 11 14:20:11 <radekp> erm
Apr 11 14:20:15 <radekp> chmod +x neo.sh
Apr 11 14:23:13 <berd> http://www.pastie.org/1782937
Apr 11 14:23:56 <radekp> and ping is working now?
Apr 11 14:24:18 <radekp> if no, then please give also output of ifconfig
Apr 11 14:24:35 <berd> okay
Apr 11 14:26:36 <berd> output of ifconfig:
Apr 11 14:26:38 <berd> http://www.pastie.org/1782947
Apr 11 14:27:20 <radekp> can you also paste output of dmesg?
Apr 11 14:31:58 <berd> dmesg output:
Apr 11 14:32:00 <berd> http://www.pastie.org/1782977
Apr 11 14:35:04 <radekp> berd: is your freerunner really connected and running?
Apr 11 14:35:47 <berd> yes
Apr 11 14:36:36 <berd> i start fr and adb aggain
Apr 11 14:36:55 <berd> and send you the dmesg output
Apr 11 14:43:00 <radekp> berd: i see last message that freerunner disconnects
Apr 11 14:43:22 <radekp> [47007.041458] cdc_ether 7-2:1.0: eth2: unregister 'cdc_ether' usb-0000:00:1d.1-2, CDC Ethernet Device
Apr 11 14:49:49 <berd> wait
Apr 11 15:05:15 <berd> ive startet fr and adb new
Apr 11 15:05:36 <berd> here the new dmesg output:
Apr 11 15:05:51 <berd> http://www.pastie.org/1783079
Apr 11 15:37:46 <radekp> it looks ok, now you need ping working
Apr 11 15:38:26 <radekp> and then it adb should work with this command:
Apr 11 15:38:28 <radekp> ADBHOST=192.168.0.202 adb shell
Apr 11 15:38:33 * radekp has to go
Apr 11 15:43:38 <berd> i could not ping
Apr 12 01:32:15 <gena2x> hi, guys... seem i need some help with diagnosing a problem with my fr.
Apr 12 01:32:29 <PaulFertser> gena2x: hey :)
Apr 12 01:32:56 <gena2x> PaulFertser, hi Paul from New York :)
Apr 12 01:33:12 <PaulFertser> gena2x: Yo :) what are you doing there?
Apr 12 01:33:28 <gena2x> PaulFertser, training...
Apr 12 01:33:49 <gena2x> PaulFertser, and riding a bike :)
Apr 12 01:34:19 <gena2x> i just got new job
Apr 12 01:34:23 <PaulFertser> gena2x: right through the city?
Apr 12 01:34:34 <PaulFertser> gena2x: congratulations! I hope you'll like it.
Apr 12 01:34:46 <PaulFertser> gena2x: in what field if i may ask?
Apr 12 01:35:00 <gena2x> not yet through the city, but around it.
Apr 12 01:35:22 <gena2x> as you can guess, i am software developer, so it's development. for bloomberg.
Apr 12 01:36:43 <gena2x> ok, but can i describe the problem? :)
Apr 12 01:36:46 <PaulFertser> gena2x: go ahead 
Apr 12 01:37:08 <gena2x> once upon a time i decided to check a new sim
Apr 12 01:37:26 <gena2x> so i inserted it and saw 'searching for network' for a while
Apr 12 01:38:04 <gena2x> it didn't find network (cause russuan megafon disabled roaming)
Apr 12 01:38:10 <gena2x> so i turn FR off
Apr 12 01:39:02 <gena2x> but seem it doesn't work anymore
Apr 12 01:39:32 <gena2x> it works like it has no battery
Apr 12 01:39:57 <gena2x> but battery is becoming hot like while charging
Apr 12 01:40:28 <PaulFertser> gena2x: is it without sim?
Apr 12 01:40:29 <gena2x> but immediately after unplugging external power it turns off
Apr 12 01:41:12 <gena2x> i have no multimeter here, but i have screwdriver and can solder :)
Apr 12 01:41:54 <gena2x> also i tried good-old-way from childhood to check batteries and seem it's charged
Apr 12 01:42:40 <PaulFertser> gena2x: have you managed to read out the values from the bq27000? Is it really charging or rather discharging at the moment?
Apr 12 01:42:49 <PaulFertser> (at the moment you notice it heats)
Apr 12 01:43:10 <gena2x> let's try without sim first
Apr 12 01:43:40 <PaulFertser> gena2x: i'd try to check carefully all the pins, probably something got bent and makes for shortcurcuit or something like that.
Apr 12 01:47:07 <gena2x> not easy to boot it without battery...
Apr 12 01:53:26 <gena2x> seem need to wait for bubatt discharge
Apr 12 01:53:29 <gena2x> ops
Apr 12 01:53:30 <gena2x> not
Apr 12 01:53:32 <gena2x> no
Apr 12 01:53:36 <gena2x> ignore
Apr 12 01:53:59 <gena2x> i wanted to say that it didn't want to boot at all without sim
Apr 12 01:54:14 <PaulFertser> But?
Apr 12 01:54:16 <gena2x> but with sim and without battery i can bring up u-boot
Apr 12 01:54:40 <gena2x> so, now i can remove sim
Apr 12 01:54:45 <PaulFertser> Hm, strange, sim shouldn't have any influence...
Apr 12 01:54:52 <gena2x> i am quite sure
Apr 12 01:55:03 <gena2x> i tried like 100 times
Apr 12 01:55:09 <gena2x> ok, 10-15 without sim
Apr 12 01:55:21 <gena2x> and with sim it booted just from first attempt
Apr 12 01:55:25 <PaulFertser> What if you insert the sim "backwards"?
Apr 12 01:55:48 <PaulFertser> (i do that when i do not want the phone to see the sim but i need something there for uSD to work)
Apr 12 01:56:15 <gena2x> i'll try now
Apr 12 02:02:32 <gena2x> with backward sim it boots too. i can't say this is very reliable procedure. but i tried hard to boot it without sim
Apr 12 02:02:56 <gena2x> but i guess this is not related to my main problem
Apr 12 02:03:42 <gena2x> so i should try to read bq27000 values next...
Apr 12 02:08:58 <gena2x> can you point me to THE script for reading values?
Apr 12 02:10:48 <gena2x> PaulFertser, ^
Apr 12 02:11:33 <gena2x> pins look ok btw
Apr 12 02:14:16 <gena2x> :(
Apr 12 02:18:19 <PaulFertser> Shit, my ups decided the mains were bad (it wasn't that bad actually) and switched to battery and that didn't work (probably dead battery in the ups).
Apr 12 02:18:31 <PaulFertser> gena2x: so i most probably missed some of your messages
Apr 12 02:18:51 <gena2x> ok, repost: with backward sim it boots too. i can't say this is very reliable procedure. but i tried hard to boot it without sim
Apr 12 02:18:59 <gena2x> but i guess this is not related to my main problem
Apr 12 02:19:05 <gena2x> so i should try to read bq27000 values next...
Apr 12 02:19:16 <gena2x> can you point me to THE script for reading values?
Apr 12 02:19:21 <PaulFertser> gena2x: sure
Apr 12 02:19:23 <gena2x> pins look ok btw
Apr 12 02:19:43 <gena2x> seem it's hot without relation to charging
Apr 12 02:20:02 <gena2x> at least without battery it's still hot
Apr 12 02:20:14 <PaulFertser> gena2x: for starters, just cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/uevent
Apr 12 02:21:54 <gena2x> hmm
Apr 12 02:22:12 <gena2x> i had to boot without battery
Apr 12 02:22:25 <gena2x> and i have POWER_SUPPLY_NAME=battery
Apr 12 02:22:25 <gena2x> POWER_SUPPLY_TYPE=Battery
Apr 12 02:22:25 <gena2x> POWER_SUPPLY_PRESENT=0
Apr 12 02:22:39 <gena2x> even if i insert it
Apr 12 02:23:16 <PaulFertser> http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/battery/bq27k-detail script is here but it requires bash4 iirc
Apr 12 02:23:45 <gena2x> before, i were able to boot without battery, insert battery wait for charge and then it's ok
Apr 12 02:23:58 <gena2x> i am debian-based (qtmoko)
Apr 12 02:24:08 <gena2x> so my bash is 4.1.5
Apr 12 02:28:45 <gena2x> cat /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-0/0-0073/hdq/hdq/dump
Apr 12 02:28:45 <gena2x> ERROR -62
Apr 12 02:29:48 <PaulFertser> gena2x: hm, "Timer expired", so no hdq communication possible.
Apr 12 02:30:35 <PaulFertser> gena2x: you can try using platform_battery driver to see the voltage on battery terminals as measured by pcf50633.
Apr 12 02:31:46 <PaulFertser> Sorry but i want to have some sleep again, ttyl.
Apr 12 02:32:20 <gena2x> in fact i have to go sleep too :)
Apr 12 02:32:41 <gena2x> we have to get up at 5:45...
Apr 12 02:32:57 <gena2x> thank you for starting help
Apr 12 02:33:03 <PaulFertser> Sometimes when you let things (and, most ipmortantly, yourself) just rest for a while, everything starts working :)
Apr 12 02:33:25 <PaulFertser> gena2x: good luck and have a nice day.
Apr 12 02:33:33 <gena2x> good night...
Apr 12 02:33:41 <PaulFertser> gena2x: 6:30 here
Apr 12 02:33:48 <PaulFertser> So it's morning already :)
Apr 12 02:33:52 <gena2x> i know :)
Apr 12 02:34:05 <gena2x> ok. good day then :)
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