**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Apr 26 02:59:57 2011 Apr 26 14:04:31 hi all, i want to change back from the 2-4-2 timing to the old timing, is there anyone who knows which files i have to edit ? ( using http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/U-boot-gena2x ) Apr 26 14:28:20 Hi Apr 26 14:54:23 hello folks Apr 26 14:55:08 I want to disable bluetooth and GSM at boot. Is there a specific way to do this, or I shall just write a startup script that runs the respective "om" commands? Apr 26 15:00:58 michelem: which distro? Apr 26 15:01:06 I'm using debian Apr 26 15:01:14 michelem: with FSO? Apr 26 15:01:43 yupp Apr 26 15:02:06 michelem: i think FSO disables the resources by default, including bluetooth and gsm. Apr 26 15:02:21 I actually see them on after boot Apr 26 15:02:35 michelem: so unless you have phoneuid or zhone requesting them, they should be disabled. Apr 26 15:02:53 right, there's probably QPE taking them on then Apr 26 15:03:20 michelem: you can use "lsfsor.py" to see the resources and processes that requested them. Apr 26 15:03:29 ok, thanks Apr 26 15:03:56 michelem: qpe? I do not think it knows anything about FSO but it might do some direct messing with sysfs nodes on its own. Apr 26 15:04:18 michelem: how did it happen you run both FSO and QtMoko at the same time? Apr 26 15:04:21 I searched for intuitive names in sysctl -a, but found nothing Apr 26 15:04:43 I just have debian with QPE, and added the FSO repository to APT manually Apr 26 15:05:07 michelem: sysctl is not /sys sysfs filesystem, you can look through "om"'s sources to see the sysfs nodes Apr 26 15:05:48 PaulFertser: yes, but do I have anything to change them then at boot? Apr 26 15:05:56 something equivalent to sysctl.conf Apr 26 15:06:00 michelem: no Apr 26 15:06:05 mrmoku: Out of interest, are you still working on your branch of the ISI dissector for Wireshark? Apr 26 15:06:08 so I'd need a script anyway Apr 26 15:08:54 michelem: but if you want to do it behind qpe's back, it might turn it on again later. Apr 26 15:10:39 I though about that, but it seems to not occur Apr 26 15:14:57 also: some users were confused by the power button long press/short press, so I want to disable that Apr 26 15:15:16 that's controlled directly by QPE, I suppose? Apr 26 15:24:54 michelem: i've never used qpe so no idea here. Apr 26 15:28:31 FMI, what desktop environment does FSO use? Apr 26 15:29:50 or, which one do you use as it appears FSO doesnt fix any Apr 26 15:38:50 michelem: fso is the middleware Apr 26 15:39:04 michelem: i personally use E17 and for GSM telephony i use Emacs. Apr 26 15:39:39 I use the phone as an inexpensive portable computer to run a small application Apr 26 15:40:28 QPE has always been a pain. Most stuff doesn't work, everything is hardcoded, and the graphical aspect is nearly insane. For example, it comes with two huge bars fixed on top and bottom of screen that remove 2cm of display Apr 26 15:41:59 I'm very open to replace that, but the end-user application is written in QT. What is enlightenment based on currently? Apr 26 15:45:49 skimming around it looks like a pain to run QT on enlightenment Apr 26 15:49:36 michelem: hm, Qt app can be run under control of any WM. Apr 26 15:50:01 michelem: or even without WM, all you need is X. Apr 26 15:55:27 PaulFertser: yes, but you need to load double libraries (wm's own + qt) Apr 26 15:55:40 what was the command to get the SDHC specs? Apr 26 15:55:50 michelem: (so libs) they get loaded automatically Apr 26 15:56:09 michelem: what specs are you talking about? Apr 26 15:56:10 yes, but won't that take tenths of megs of ram? Apr 26 15:56:38 You can use some very lightweight WM, that requires only xlib. Apr 26 15:58:58 do you remember the command to get tech details on the SSD card? Apr 26 16:06:05 michelem: i think i can find out how to get some raw values from SD but i've no idea how to decode them without looking at some obscure docs. Apr 26 16:14:00 http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=918 Apr 26 16:14:03 overview of format Apr 26 16:15:42 /sys/class/mmc_host/mmc1/mmc1:0001# cat manfid Apr 26 16:15:42 0x000011 Apr 26 16:15:43 forex Apr 26 16:16:25 err - that's the emmc Apr 26 16:21:38 thx Apr 26 16:26:41 gosh, do you have to run debian sid to have e17? Apr 26 17:57:59 Greetings Apr 26 17:58:11 Does anyone know how to get a shell on openmoko 2008? Apr 26 17:58:46 2009, sorry Apr 26 18:14:38 vmlemon_: yup, still have some unpushed work and will probably do more on it Apr 26 18:17:55 Hmm Apr 26 18:18:17 I'm trying to ssh to the openmoko 2009 (being unable to find a shell on it). However, "openmoko" nor variants of it are not accepted as the password Apr 26 18:18:25 The wiki does not seem to indicate the default root password? Apr 26 18:20:24 Sorry to take up your time - I changed the theme to illume and the shell is there **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Apr 27 02:59:58 2011