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Jul 13 03:22:05 <DocScrutinizer> roh/gismo is informed, serverbox chandra down, possibly hw-defect. ETA unclear
Jul 13 10:01:35 <DocScrutinizer> pabs3: ticket to Hetzner is on its way
Jul 13 10:13:16 <DocScrutinizer> FYI: a physical box with server chandra et all (mail, lists) has hw problems. Our sysops are in contact to our provider Hetzner to get the issue fixed
Jul 13 10:35:41 <pabs3> DocScrutinizer: thanks
Jul 13 10:38:30 <DocScrutinizer> pabs3: one of the days where I think I should take 1$/month from each chan user in each chan I'm servicing ;-)
Jul 13 10:39:12 <DocScrutinizer> would actually suffice to make for a living
Jul 13 10:41:27 <DocScrutinizer> the above notification would actually be our sysops' duty for instance
Jul 13 10:42:16 <DocScrutinizer> just they are better with economics than me ;-P
Jul 13 10:42:41 <pabs3> :)
Jul 13 10:43:09 <DocScrutinizer> I.e. not doing anything beyond bare minimum for the exorbitant salary of 0/$random-period
Jul 13 12:58:48 <DocScrutinizer> FYI: Roh informed me the chandra server hw is back up and running - atm rescuesys runs fsck
Jul 13 14:21:26 <michelem> hello folks
Jul 13 14:21:53 <michelem> I'm lurking through USB in host mode WHILE on power supply. Anyone got this working?
Jul 13 14:23:36 <michelem> I found http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Specialized_USB_cables#Buy_a_USB_Y_cable_for_powering_USB_devices_and_charging_the_Freerunner_while_in_host_mode , but I'm looking for something that does not require adapters
Jul 13 14:52:36 <PBeck> hi
Jul 13 15:47:46 <DocScrutinizer> chandra back to normal
Jul 13 15:48:55 <DocScrutinizer> michelem: there are no ready made cables for this that wouldn't need any adapters
Jul 13 15:49:38 <michelem> thanks
Jul 13 15:50:15 <DocScrutinizer> you at minimum need a Y-cable plus one adapter
Jul 13 15:51:31 <DocScrutinizer> also the most easy to find most common type of cable: mini-B <-> 2* USB-A-M
Jul 13 15:53:02 <DocScrutinizer> the plug a USB-A-F<->F adapter to the regular USB-A-M and plug the other USB-A-M to arbitrary USB receptacle providing power, like a host PC or a wallwart charger with USB-A-F receptacle
Jul 13 15:53:28 <DocScrutinizer> then* plug
Jul 13 15:54:48 <DocScrutinizer> this type of Y-cable comes with virtually every 3.5" external HDD
Jul 13 15:55:15 <DocScrutinizer> also easily be found in electronics shops etc
Jul 13 15:55:38 <DocScrutinizer> for the A-F<->A-F adapter dongle see the wiki
Jul 13 15:55:58 <DocScrutinizer> for some reason most of those are yellow ;-)
Jul 13 16:16:08 <michelem> I will probably go for a custom built cable
Jul 13 16:16:20 <michelem> as we need some 2 meters of cable anyway
Jul 13 16:22:03 <Infoport> hello all! Any idea of where to buy a new screen for my OM Freerunner? There was an eBay seller, but he seems to have stopped selling.
Jul 13 16:31:51 <jluis__> Infoport, pulster has them 
Jul 13 16:32:10 <Infoport> jluis tigers?
Jul 13 16:32:38 <jluis__> http://www.pulster.de/ code omrepair
Jul 13 16:39:21 <Infoport> jluis sorry, I thought I was replying to comments on another chat room (does the ROM scare away tigers too-- I don't see any)
Jul 13 16:47:37 <Infoport> jluis__: is he selling the repair service as part of it? Ah ok, I found it, in English too.
Jul 13 16:48:25 <Infoport> wow, much more expensive than buying the screen and doing it myself (the lost ebay seller had them for about $30 or $35)
Jul 13 16:53:38 <Infoport> jluis__: does he have the page in English to service those in the US too? Crap I'm not sure how to pay him, since he only takes bank transfers (no Paypal, no cash). US banks are not easy nor cheap for bank transfers internationally
Jul 13 16:55:15 <jluis__> I don't remember any other source for the screens
Jul 13 16:58:16 <Infoport> well I guess I will call my bank and see how much they charge for bank transfers to Germany
Jul 13 16:58:44 <Infoport> last time I tried, I ended up sending an ebay seller cash hidden in a CD case instead
Jul 13 17:03:43 <jluis__> I would ask in the comunity mailing list too its possible that others distributors have it
Jul 13 17:09:30 <Infoport> jluis__: good idea. I just called my bank, and they can do it for a $10 fee, though it might take 2 weeks. Somewhere locally would save me VAT though
Jul 13 17:12:05 <Infoport> since my screen broke, I have been using an Android phone (Samsung Vibrant), and now have a data plan too. It would be nice to get back to my OM.
Jul 13 17:12:25 <Infoport> Has Android on OM stabilized?
Jul 13 17:15:23 <jluis__> I've used it but only for a few days since missed ssh and bash 
Jul 13 17:16:40 <Infoport> which list would be most appropriate, community@ or support@lists.openmoko.org?
Jul 13 17:17:23 <jluis__> I think comunity is apropiate ( it has more public)
Jul 13 17:18:21 <pabs3> Infoport: last time I tried Android on FR it was much slower than say QtMoko or SHR
Jul 13 17:20:27 <fredrin> any tricks to wake up a battery dead FR? Been a long time since i've used mine and bat is completely dead and it wont recharge
Jul 13 17:20:41 <fredrin> the epic design fault of the FR :D 
Jul 13 17:20:54 <fredrin> and i dont have access to another nokia bat right now
Jul 13 17:23:41 <pabs3> fredrin: can you boot into NOR u-boot? IIRC the battery wiki page said something about that
Jul 13 17:24:32 <pabs3> usually that works and you can get enough charge to boot into Linux
Jul 13 17:25:58 <fredrin> ack
Jul 13 18:33:14 <khorben> fredrin: alternatively, use an equivalent battery from nokia if you have one...
Jul 13 18:34:19 <PaulFertser> Or a lab power supply :)
Jul 14 01:50:50 <fredrin> khorben, do not have an equalient battery...
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