**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jul 18 02:59:57 2011 Jul 18 03:08:01 Hi, im trying to make a full backup of my gta02v5 with neotools. It is saying that mkfs-jffs2 not found, but i cannot issue "opkg install mkfs-jffs2" as the command line returns command not found. Any ideas? Jul 18 03:25:51 okay, i got around to install mtd-tools, but NeoTool is still reporting that mkfs-jffs2 is not installed.. Jul 18 04:36:22 i resolved the mkfs-jffs problem by editing the source code :) Jul 18 04:42:59 is there i way i can locate the kernel image if its not in /boot? im doing a full backup Jul 18 04:56:21 gkwhc: from nand? Jul 18 04:56:28 gkwhc: it's in the corresponding nand partition then. Jul 18 04:56:36 gkwhc: cat /proc/mtd Jul 18 04:57:16 PaulFertser: so i would have to mount that partition and copy the file over? Jul 18 05:00:14 PaulFertser: im using NeoTool to make a full backup, but the kernel backup is not made as uImage is not found in /boot of the device Jul 18 05:14:57 gkwhc: no, it's not mountable, Jul 18 05:15:06 gkwhc: raw uImage written to raw flash. Jul 18 05:15:20 gkwhc: i have never understood the desire to use neotool, sorry. Jul 18 06:18:32 PaulFertser: i see. thanks for the tip & help! Jul 18 06:20:51 gkwhc: welcome :) Jul 18 10:47:08 folks, on my Debian I have / mounted from /etc/fstab as "rootfs /" Jul 18 10:47:19 what does that "rootfs" actually mount from? Jul 18 10:47:47 and what's the relationship with the uSD card mounted in /media/card ? Jul 18 11:11:34 michelem: rootfs is mounted by the kernel according to root= kernel command line argument. Jul 18 11:12:21 PaulFertser: so with root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 I will have uSD mounted twice with an fstab like http://dpaste.de/V63i/ Jul 18 11:13:51 I'm considering replacing that with a ramdisk Jul 18 11:15:05 michelem: hm, i'm not sure, it'll probably refuse to mount it the second time. Jul 18 11:16:35 I actually see everything mounted from "mount". That setup is actually quite confusing. http://dpaste.de/wSxs/ Jul 18 11:17:12 Anyway, any experience with a root ramdisk? I'm primarily wondering about RAM, since the moko doesn't have much. Jul 18 13:40:05 btw Jul 18 13:40:33 Xorg takes 85% of the CPU on my freerunner. Is this expected? Any way to improve it? Jul 18 13:41:41 I'm using Driver "glamo" and Load "glx" and "dri2" already. Jul 18 13:48:54 michelem: it shouldn't if no client is constantly redrawing something or doing other related things. Jul 18 14:25:44 michelem: could be because of automatic device discovery Jul 18 14:26:21 khorben: can I spot that from xorg logs? Jul 18 14:26:46 if it says something like "automatically adding devices" yes Jul 18 15:20:10 michelem: he's right, i've forgotten about that feature of the newer x.orgs. Jul 18 15:57:26 khorben: I have that indeed. However, google doesn't help me with how to switch autodetection off. Jul 18 15:59:05 found AutoAddDevices and AutoEnableDevices. Jul 18 16:01:01 man xorg.conf makes it sound event-based though, not polling-based, so that wouldn't justify the load Jul 18 16:59:33 hi, i just got an freerunner and would like to install Debian. However, from the wiki i only see installation on uSD card. Can I install Debian to NAND flash? Jul 18 17:00:28 I seem to recall someone doing that, though it's a bit more involved. Also, you need to use tmpfs or the card for wasit apt archives for it to work (shared mmap issues with the flash filesystem, iirc) Jul 18 17:01:24 I haven't checked things out recently, so I might be off-base here, but probably best to do the sd install first and then copy it over to NAND if you really want to Jul 18 17:08:15 mjr: oh great! so I can actually copy the contents of the SDcard over to the NAND? that is much easier :) Jul 18 17:11:29 mjr: would I use dd to copy? or how? Jul 18 17:12:21 more like cp -a with the nand mounted with your appropriate flash filesystem Jul 18 17:12:37 (jffs2 or one of the newer ones) Jul 18 17:13:21 anyway, #openmoko-debian probably has people with more current knowledge than me Jul 18 17:17:43 i see. thanks! Jul 18 17:17:47 presumably you could also run mkfs.jffs2 based on the installed sd card, and flash that at one go Jul 18 17:18:17 mhm Jul 18 21:05:50 Hello, I restarted my interest in openmoko after some time and I am noticed that the world changed a lot (FSO, android ...). Are there any other distributions than SHR or qtmoko now? Jul 18 21:06:04 I mean mintained and developped Jul 18 21:42:46 hi Jul 18 22:06:25 the logs link does not work **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jul 19 02:59:56 2011