**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 28 02:59:57 2011 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jul 28 04:47:30 2011 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 28 04:42:15 2011 Jul 28 12:48:25 is gps not working with the freerunner currently? i'm trying to use nerongps with qtmoko (v35), but i'm unable to obtain a fix. Jul 28 12:52:52 mine worked fine on Saturday, haven't tried since. Jul 28 12:53:29 (and can't now because it's somewhere I'll not be for some hours) Jul 28 12:54:13 Wonka: is there anything in particular you have to do in order to enable gps to work? i've basically just used either my gprs or wifi connection and then launched nerongps. Jul 28 12:55:17 current wait for fix time is 00:14:12 and counting... Jul 28 12:59:25 i've tried using gps after removing the micro sdcard, but no dice Jul 28 13:03:47 uh... I have that 10pF cap on the uSD clock pin Jul 28 13:03:58 but it worked before too, wioth worse signal levels Jul 28 13:04:42 it's enough to start omgps or tangogps here to get a fix after some time - best if you have much open sky visible Jul 28 13:09:36 Wonka: thanks. maybe i'll need an external antenna. Jul 28 13:22:55 Wonka: got it working... middle of garden, waving arm skywards... ;) Jul 28 13:34:36 :) Jul 28 15:05:39 I had problems with my GPS as well, then someone in this channel told me that it is very important to have the clock set accurately. That reduced fix time for me considerably. Jul 28 15:06:02 ... from ~10 minutes to ~1 minute Jul 28 16:35:26 Sazius: strange. I recall using my GPS to adjust my clock after swapping battery. Took like <60s to get an accurate time, even before any fix Jul 28 16:36:03 that's however been SHT, not wtmoko Jul 28 16:36:09 qtmoko even Jul 28 16:37:35 Hi, can I get the look and feel of SHR on Debian? Jul 28 16:38:14 sure, but I gather that'S a mere SHR then, more or less :-) Jul 28 16:40:33 DocScrutinizer: how would i do that then? i couldnt find dialer, contacts, messages, phone log, etc packages on debian Jul 28 16:40:40 probably you better ask that question on #openmoko-cdevel. It seems a lot of SHR devels are not closely following here Jul 28 16:40:49 oh i see Jul 28 16:40:53 thanks Jul 28 16:41:27 not that there's any lot of SHR devels anyway :-D Jul 28 16:44:02 haha Jul 28 16:44:11 which distro do you use? Jul 28 18:31:24 hi Jul 28 20:42:28 if anyone here's a maintainer of Debian FSO, please update the phoneui packages! Jul 28 20:59:59 how can i boot SHR on a uSD with uboot? Jul 28 21:00:15 ive been following the wiki but it cant even boot! Jul 28 21:01:07 it's definitely possible but i haven't done it Jul 28 21:01:32 okay. which distro do you use btw? Jul 28 21:02:09 oh last i booted my phone it was.. hackable1 i think Jul 28 21:02:32 ah i see Jul 28 21:02:41 is it based on debian? Jul 28 21:04:18 probably.. i don't even remember now, but i know that booting from SD was a matter of changing a couple of variables in uboot Jul 28 21:04:41 okay Jul 29 00:05:19 I guess FSO Debian is unmaintained and discontinued, at least for the dialer UI aka zhone Jul 29 00:07:02 FSO switched from zhone to SHR for the implemetation evaluation environment (or whatver you want to call it), more than a year ago, probabyl more than 2 yeras ago Jul 29 00:07:57 so asking for a zhone update in debian is like asking for a OSS audio system update in openSuse Jul 29 00:21:37 DocScrutinizer: would you think it could be possible that the glamo sometimes doesn't wait for write complete on the uSD? Jul 29 00:22:36 with glamo all is possible, except decent gfx acceleration Jul 29 00:25:28 it is just a wild guess, since uSD cards tends to end up "broken" here. My friend told me that on his card, the drm got activated, IIRC. (Good to know GTA04 is around the corner...) Jul 29 00:54:01 ouch, yeah. the S in SDcard stands for Secure Jul 29 00:55:21 my wild guess would be sth like too early power down, killing the card while flushing buffers Jul 29 01:11:36 Interesting point Jul 29 01:11:52 I don't recall seeing an explicit spec or call for asking the SD 'are you done yet' Jul 29 01:12:07 indeed Jul 29 01:29:04 DocScrutinizer: i mean phoneui-dialer, etc applications used in SHR Jul 29 01:38:05 hmm, I wonder who's maintainer of those packages **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jul 29 02:59:56 2011