**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Aug 11 02:59:56 2011 Aug 11 13:33:12 meh. N9 not coming to germany. Aug 11 19:50:03 r stable rc1? Aug 11 19:50:17 shr stable rc1? Aug 11 21:55:38 people.openmoko.org is not accessible anymore, wanted to try out android which requests an upgrade of the gsm-firmware Aug 11 21:55:51 is there an alternative location to fetch it? Aug 11 21:57:38 gentoo: what firmware are you running now? Aug 11 21:57:42 moko8 Aug 11 21:58:02 gentoo: too old indeed. Hold on. Aug 11 21:58:08 thx Aug 11 21:58:30 http://web.archive.org/web/20090401074525/http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/calypso_moko_FW/moko11/ Aug 11 21:58:34 would have been nice :) Aug 11 21:58:57 hey funny thing, on froscon next where, there's a talk about openmoko :D Aug 11 21:59:47 gentoo: http://joerg.cloud-7.de/flash-moko11_uSD-image.tar.gz Aug 11 22:00:45 gentoo: btw, just fyi android sucks Aug 11 22:01:00 in general or on freerunner? Aug 11 22:01:26 gentoo: in general, and i think on freerunner too (as a direct consequence) :) Aug 11 22:02:33 hm, i'm quick on java building guis Aug 11 22:02:37 vala comes strange to me Aug 11 22:04:17 actually i just need an application that reads one of the accels sends them over the wire, additionally it need to capture my thumbs position on the screen and send that as data as well Aug 11 22:04:30 gentoo: you can use any language you want to build guis for a sane OS. Android is not one of the apparently. Aug 11 22:04:46 gentoo: no multitouch support on freerunner Aug 11 22:04:54 i know Aug 11 22:04:57 my thumb's position Aug 11 22:06:07 but as soon as i realized that my freerunner freezes when i just did something like 'cat /dev/event/input3 >/dev/null' Aug 11 22:06:15 gentoo: no need to program anything even, just stream /dev/input/eventX via ssh Aug 11 22:06:26 i realized i need to change the 'os' because i'm not good at debugging linux drivers Aug 11 22:07:20 actually i does not instantally freeze, it delivers some realy good looking data for 30secs or so Aug 11 22:07:52 (on input/event4 it's the same) Aug 11 22:12:37 gentoo: what happens after 30 secs? Aug 11 22:13:21 it freezes, I need to remove the accu Aug 11 22:13:28 gentoo: with which kernel? Aug 11 22:13:41 oehm, shr testing Aug 11 22:13:43 one mom Aug 11 22:14:44 2.6.37.6 Aug 11 22:14:56 gentoo: try something earlier, that one is probably not ok. Aug 11 22:15:42 and thats the moment where one problem gets splitted into like 20 ^^ Aug 11 22:16:04 gentoo: and you might want to report the issue, probably by simply telling about it to larsc or JaMa Aug 11 22:20:42 hm, opkg does not have any versioning support Aug 11 22:21:02 # opkg list-installed | grep kernel Aug 11 22:21:03 kernel - 2.6.37-r5-oe6.6 Aug 11 22:21:52 hm, where does it gets it's ipkg's from Aug 11 22:21:59 i just pick an older one manually Aug 11 22:27:20 gentoo: i've reported to JaMa Aug 11 22:29:49 ok, got 2.6.34.8 now Aug 11 22:30:03 and reboot Aug 11 22:34:15 hm Aug 11 22:39:40 still running Aug 11 22:40:00 switching back to 2.6.37.6 just to proof it Aug 11 22:40:37 jama is that cool guy that hacks kernels right? :) Aug 11 22:45:54 PaulFertser: sry btw, i'm on shr-unstable Aug 11 22:54:21 and freeze Aug 11 22:55:31 PaulFertser: i don't know where to get a newer but older version (between 2.6.34 and 2.6.37), i even don't know where the newer openmoko kernels come from, cause andy's track is 2years late Aug 11 22:56:00 PaulFertser: but jama can contact me if he wants me to test something Aug 11 22:56:05 patching my gsm-modem now **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Aug 12 02:59:59 2011