**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 05 02:59:58 2012 Mar 05 16:02:33 lol http://www.xkcdb.com/?8418 Mar 05 16:11:13 Wonka: Your story? ;) Mar 05 16:16:03 nope Mar 05 16:16:09 but still funny Mar 05 17:28:42 Hi all, I want to apologize for feeding the 'troll' last night on the om community list. The inflammatory rhetoric he used got the better of me and I lashed out without thinking it through. I don't think what I expressed was wrong but it probably wasn't productive. I'm probably on his enemies list now lol. C'est la vie ... Mar 05 17:38:25 hal14450: OTOH I'm glad someone spoke out :) Mar 05 17:38:55 Sazius, ty Mar 05 17:39:10 i still feel a bit bad about it though Mar 05 17:40:39 i guess i assumed the worst since i seem to have shut the troll up and the community at the same time :( Mar 05 17:41:15 that was never my intention Mar 05 17:42:15 well shutting the troll up was of course but not the community Mar 05 17:43:28 I don't if the community was "shut up", there's still discussion in the list Mar 05 17:43:45 I don't know if... Mar 05 17:44:59 true, most people probably ignore his posts by now since they're always screwing up threading and rarely have anything interesting to contribute Mar 05 17:46:13 i finally broke down last weekend and bought myself a used n900 off of ebay so i should be able to play around more with my FR Mar 05 17:46:46 heh :) Mar 05 17:47:44 i just needed another phone i could live with for a cell you know? Mar 05 17:48:14 i use voip most of the time anyway Mar 05 17:48:17 yep, I've already got too many phones it seems :) Mar 05 17:48:33 what distro are you using on the FR btw? Mar 05 17:50:04 i have a slew of nokia cheapos i use as battery chargers lol. i am using qtmoko for phone primarily and AoF froyo on SD as an e-reader and for browsing. Mar 05 17:50:38 moonreader+ is addictive Mar 05 17:50:52 ah, you haven't tried to you AoF as a phone? Mar 05 17:51:13 I tried AoF cupcake (?) for a while, but became very slow after a while Mar 05 17:51:20 when it rings and i'm booted into i use it Mar 05 17:51:46 qtmoko seems to be best all-around distro to me ATM Mar 05 17:51:47 froyo is slow but as a bookreader it's workable Mar 05 17:52:37 I've got an e-ink device with openinkpot for e-book reading :) Mar 05 17:53:01 yeah, i tried the the latest shr-core and was disappointed by not having phone working right off the bat and the crazy power settings drove me nuts Mar 05 17:53:14 (BeBook One 2009 edition or something like that...) Mar 05 17:53:45 yep, I keep comming back to qtmoko, works best for me :) Mar 05 17:54:26 i've alway been a dead tree media guy but that is slowly changing. i'll be happy to convert so long as it doesn't make my local library close Mar 05 17:55:29 yeah, I do prefer "real books" as well, but my book shelf is getting really full :) Mar 05 17:56:40 i know the feeling Mar 05 17:57:54 I've got it set up so that calibre converts LWN weekly edition to epub so I can read that comfortably from my device :) Mar 05 17:58:41 I don't like reading long articles from the computer screen... also I'm too easily distracted :) Mar 05 18:00:40 same here, i find that a handheld like the FR is ideal. especially at night when i read before going to sleep. Mar 05 18:06:12 shr infuriates me as a distro, it gets so many things about the UI right that the others get wrong. but it never has gotten to the point where i can deal with those issues of the initial install setup anymore. a few years back it wiped the contacts from my sim card, by design i might add, and that has made me leery ever since. Mar 05 18:08:57 I remember reading somewhere recently that SHR was going to focus on a stabler version or something like that Mar 05 18:09:00 I've been using AoF for a month now and it seems like the best Mar 05 18:09:25 Laksen: froyo or cupcake? you don't find it too slow? Mar 05 18:09:31 Cupcake Mar 05 18:10:07 I used cupcake for a while but found that after using certain apps it got unusably slow... Mar 05 18:10:17 some GPS app I think it was Mar 05 18:10:19 It's slow for sure Mar 05 18:10:28 But all other distros are just as slow Mar 05 18:10:39 froyo on SD is really pretty good for what i use it for but i won't commit to AoF on NAND and SD as it prohibits dual booting Mar 05 18:11:16 What are the speed differences between froyo and cupcake really? Mar 05 18:11:24 I have only tried cupcake Mar 05 18:11:46 is it possible to get AoF to work with dual booting? i.e. having qtmoko in nand an AoF on SD? Mar 05 18:12:15 froyo was serious dog back when it was first ported but it is usable now just too much for the hardware i think Mar 05 18:12:18 I still have the original shipping qt moko in nand Mar 05 18:12:51 Sazius, that's what i use QtMoko on NAND and Froyo on SD Mar 05 18:13:10 hal14450: ah, I might just try that :) Mar 05 18:13:42 ran builds are what i use let me get you the link... Mar 05 18:15:49 http://serdar-dere.net/~ran/ Mar 05 18:16:30 via: https://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/wiki/AndroidOnSd Mar 05 18:17:29 thanks, I first need to figure out if I've got anything important on my SD card :) Mar 05 18:17:35 it's still tricky to dual boot though as you have to have fast reflexes for picking the one you want Mar 05 18:17:55 np yw Mar 05 18:20:27 anyone here have any thoughts on what's happening in the following scenario: i have cable as my main ISP and am testing out WiMax via clear as an alternative but so far it's giving me fits. Mar 05 18:21:03 it redirects to a signup page daily Mar 05 18:22:21 which is exceptionally annoying but i also can't use advanced diagnostic tools like web100 or npad **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Mar 06 02:59:58 2012