**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue May 22 02:59:59 2012 May 22 13:01:47 k!kmm May 22 17:41:27 Hi, can someone help me. I'm trying to install neo-1973 on ubuntu 12.04. May 22 17:41:53 Raziel1002: hi, and what's your issue? May 22 17:44:21 When running openmoko/flash.sh. the NAND flash process times out. May 22 17:44:48 Raziel1002: don't run it then :) use dfu-util directly. May 22 17:46:08 okay. Where is dfu-util locate? May 22 17:46:12 located* May 22 17:46:53 ooh, this sucked my battery. Sorry for the noise May 22 17:47:16 Raziel1002: ahem, is wiki.openmoko.org working for you? May 22 17:47:21 DocScrutinizer: hey Doc :) May 22 17:47:25 hey May 22 17:49:33 PaulFertser: don't tell me wiki is broken again May 22 17:51:22 worls! http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix#Rework_performed_by_Paul_Fertser :-P May 22 17:51:30 works even May 22 17:52:32 Hehe May 22 17:52:58 That was a polite way to make a hint for Raziel1002 , heh :) May 22 19:40:42 hello, is anyone there? May 22 19:44:24 ~ask May 22 19:44:24 Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. May 22 19:49:44 I'm trying to install qemu-neo1973. I used the manual setup tutorial at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_under_QEMU. After performing flash.sh, The NAND flash times out. PaulFertser told me to skip this and direct execute it using dfu-util, but i don't know how to use it.. May 22 20:15:12 Raziel1002: oh oh i suggest to forget about qemu-neo1973. Why you might want to have it? May 22 20:19:17 Its required for one of my assignments May 22 20:20:08 Raziel1002: why do you think it might work, and why do you think anyone might want it to work, really? May 22 20:20:38 I need to go through a tutorial, which can be found here http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/tutorials/l-openmoko/section8.html May 22 20:22:18 Raziel1002: the devices in the field are nothing special, just regular armv4 boards, why do you think you need any emulator at all, why can't you run the code natively on your dev machine? May 22 20:22:42 I dunno how. May 22 20:22:56 Raziel1002: running code natively? May 22 20:23:49 Well I need to execute it using the device and wanted to use an emulator to do so.. May 22 20:24:14 that is what the assignment requires.. May 22 20:24:18 Raziel1002: why do you need to execute it using the device? And if you have the device, why do you need the emulator? May 22 20:24:55 I don't have the device. Thats why I want to use an emulator.. May 22 20:26:01 in the tutorial, I recommended using neo-1973 May 22 20:26:08 it* May 22 20:28:44 Raziel1002: but what difference are you planning to see between running the code natively and in the emulator? May 22 20:36:43 The device executing the code instead of my system providing the expected results... May 22 20:37:15 found in the tutorial.,.. May 22 20:39:49 Raziel1002: i haven't heard about anybody using that emulator successfully during all the time i'm following the project (more than 2 years). May 22 20:41:13 Hrmm. Do you know an emulator I can use to complete my assignment? May 22 20:41:46 the program I'm executing uses c May 22 20:42:06 Raziel1002: if your assignment requires using qemu-neo1973, then your question makes no sense, as another emulator would not be qemu-neo1973 and so you won't complete the assignment. May 22 20:43:17 Raziel1002: neo1973 is no different in most regards from your very own dev machine or any other GNU/Linux-running equipment, you can directly use or emulate any. May 22 20:44:23 Raziel1002: all the code i see in that tutorial is system-independent. May 22 20:44:36 anyway flashing NAND of an ... emulator ... sounds weird May 22 20:44:49 DocScrutinizer: i guess it had an emulated flash device. May 22 20:45:12 emulating uBoot? May 22 20:45:20 I guess it did. May 22 20:45:29 yes May 22 20:45:50 DocScrutinizer: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_under_QEMU May 22 20:46:13 The list is impressive in fact. May 22 20:46:22 But the usefullness is unclear. May 22 20:46:30 I guess Sean spent quite some money on it. May 22 20:46:33 :nod: May 22 20:47:09 I'm way more interested in Embedded Trace Buffer of ARM cortex A 8, aka CoreSight May 22 20:47:33 I'd say if i knew anything about it. May 22 20:47:35 * DocScrutinizer waves and heads out for diner May 22 20:47:44 Enjoy your meal May 22 20:48:10 Well I'll try and execute it to see what I get. Thanks for the help, guys May 22 20:52:45 Ah that's nice May 22 20:52:57 Would anyone know if there are win32 binaries hosted somewhere? May 22 20:53:23 Or know some who might be able to create some? May 22 21:27:49 * DocScrutinizer51 lols at /topic #openmoko-wikireader **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed May 23 02:59:59 2012