**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Dec 27 02:59:58 2012 Dec 27 04:14:01 So, it turns out I was a moron, and didn't realize the first layer of foam pulled out of the pelican case. Debug cable was in there all along. My friend was checking out the gta-01 tonight and went through the case. :) Dec 27 05:12:30 myself: cool :) If you're going to use OpenOCD, please use the new "ftdi" driver, not the old ft2xxx or ft2232. Dec 27 05:22:12 PaulFertser: what would you reccomend for a GTA02, for a debian user such as myself? Dec 27 05:22:32 OS and setup wise Dec 27 05:23:24 QTmoko? Dec 27 05:28:05 djp: if you are not planning any serious work on improving FSO, then yes. Dec 27 05:31:49 as close to the bone debian phone as makes sense.. whatever works! Dec 27 05:33:08 ok then, well there are copious instructions, so as soon as I get this friggin battery charged, I'll have a go at it! Dec 27 05:33:49 ok, is there a hardware fix for the GTA02, battery won't charge if it's dead" bug? Dec 27 05:34:52 I'm looking for a nokia/ aftermarkey charger, but they're getting scarce Dec 27 05:35:06 I'll get one on eBay Dec 27 05:35:55 but if there's a tiny resistor to add, or a trace to be cut, I think it wold be worth doing Dec 27 05:36:28 djp: you can actually charge a flat battery Dec 27 05:36:49 hmmmm.. go on.. Dec 27 05:37:07 djp: at least you can try it by booting to NOR uboot, it should work even without any battery. Dec 27 05:37:37 djp: if you can't get it to boot to NOR, try attaching to another PC. Dec 27 05:37:52 djp: this trick works with some for sure. Dec 27 05:38:47 whaa? really? ok, I'm gonna break out the miniUSB power supply.. is this some Vulcan-death-grip button sequence? Dec 27 05:39:19 djp: just keep AUX button pressed when you apply the power. Dec 27 05:40:26 djp: another option: are you sure you do not have a lab psu around? Because if you do, you can boot the kernel and then (it'll be running from USB by that time) disconnect psu and attach the battery. Dec 27 05:41:38 because I thought this model was notorious Dec 27 05:41:39 djp: general advice: consult wiki.openmoko.org, it has an elaborate description of that "flat battery" problem as well as many other useful data. Dec 27 05:42:01 but the psu is a good idea.. 3.7v Dec 27 05:42:49 I have been over that wiki a bunch, even the flat battery pages, but didn't all stick :) Dec 27 05:44:03 so you're saying that without the psu, in this case, the "apply power + aux" might not work ? (hasn't so far) Dec 27 05:46:14 djp: aux and then apply usb power might work Dec 27 05:46:28 djp: but that depends on your PC/laptop (surprisingly). Dec 27 05:46:39 djp: do you have a wallcharger? With that the trick usually works. Dec 27 05:47:52 walwart 2 mini, yes, now to be clear, the aux button is the round one? or the square one ? Dec 27 05:48:32 or should I consult the wiki some more ;-) Dec 27 06:12:54 If you have a lab PSU and a decent ammeter, you could just hand-charge the battery for a few minutes, too. Lithium ain't rocket-science, just don't walk away from it. Dec 27 06:16:52 I have the USB-sourced version of this: http://dx.com/p/universal-cell-phone-battery-car-charger-black-dc-12-24v-55979 Dec 27 06:17:08 it's the most worthwhile thing ever. Can charge any single-cell lithium battery. Adjustable prongs mate with anything. Dec 27 06:17:31 I'm trying to find the version I have. Dec 27 06:20:04 Here it is, sold out, of course: http://dx.com/p/mini-usb-powered-universal-lithium-battery-smart-auto-charger-keychain-with-tf-card-reader-17794 Dec 27 06:43:47 yup, I have one just like it.. in storage! y'think I could find one ? Dec 27 06:43:52 naaaah Dec 27 06:44:19 but that did waork the last time, which wa sa while ago Dec 27 06:46:44 I've done plenty of lithium charging by manually babysitting the CC/CV process. Takes two meters, a decent power supply, and patience. Thing is, if you just need to bootstrap it, only the CC portion is needed, so you only need one meter. Dec 27 06:58:04 aha, found it! DX is out of stock, AliExpress has a qty.100 minimum, but this place claims to have it: http://www.focalprice.com/MC0055L/ Dec 27 06:58:09 I'll sh'up now :) Dec 27 07:01:14 no, cool, thank you! Dec 27 07:09:19 (yeah, I'm ordering twenty more. I've lost two, and not a week goes by when I couldn't sell one to a coworker for $5-10 after saving their butt with it) Dec 27 07:28:26 djp: aux is the round one Dec 27 14:45:19 hi **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Dec 28 02:59:58 2012