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Sep 04 06:27:56 <aloniv> neo freerunner got wet and now shows white screen when switched on...any recommended way of drying it?
Sep 04 06:32:44 <PaulFertser> aloniv: any electronic device got wet -> immediately disconnect all batteries and fully disassemble
Sep 04 06:32:56 <PaulFertser> aloniv: what you did is already wrong, and might be damaging
Sep 04 06:33:40 <PaulFertser> aloniv: after full disassembly do visual inspection and clean of all traces of liquid with ethanol.
Sep 04 06:36:16 <aloniv> yeah i opened it
Sep 04 06:37:29 <aloniv> can't i just let it dry out? what about the rice trick does it work?
Sep 04 06:38:22 <aloniv> (i mean wait for it to dry...)
Sep 04 06:38:54 <aloniv> by "fully disassemble" do you mean also disconnect screen?
Sep 04 06:39:48 <aloniv> (i only switched it on for 5 seconds - when i saw white screen i switched it off...)
Sep 04 06:41:12 <aloniv> anyway what does a "white screen"mean?
Sep 04 06:45:03 <PaulFertser> aloniv: rice trick can help, visual inspection is still recommended. Ungluing the screen is not needed, just take out the PCB to see where did the water go.
Sep 04 06:45:31 <PaulFertser> aloniv: we saw white screen when the LCD controller was improperly initialized.
Sep 04 06:46:19 <aloniv> should the board be put in rice or can rice damage it?
Sep 04 06:48:48 <aloniv> PaulFerster: it was yesterday night - some of the PCB is still damp not sure where water went
Sep 04 07:02:24 <PaulFertser> No, rice can't harm it
Sep 04 07:06:28 <aloniv> should i put all parts (wireless/bluetooth, antenna etc) or just pcb?
Sep 04 07:06:36 <PaulFertser> All parts
Sep 04 07:06:49 <aloniv> including plastic covers?
Sep 04 07:07:24 <aloniv> and screws?
Sep 04 07:26:27 <PaulFertser> aloniv: yes, why not?
Sep 04 07:26:38 <PaulFertser> aloniv: it's important to dry everything
Sep 04 07:27:14 <PaulFertser> aloniv: hair drier (if not too hot, shouldn't be > 60C) should work too
Sep 04 07:27:36 <aloniv> screws are very small i won't find them later...
Sep 04 07:27:39 <PaulFertser> aloniv: you might need to dismantle the shields
Sep 04 07:28:01 <aloniv> i just put everything aside from screws in rice...
Sep 04 07:28:02 <PaulFertser> aloniv: i'm using my gta02 without screws for many years, since the day 1 :)
Sep 04 07:28:12 <PaulFertser> And it's even better that way: less echo for the other side.
Sep 04 07:28:20 <aloniv> i only have 2 of them as i misplaced one
Sep 04 07:29:01 <aloniv> there is no echo on mine (got a buzz-fixed one that doesn't produce echo after messing with sound configuration)
Sep 04 07:29:52 <aloniv> so should i check back in 48 hours?
Sep 04 07:30:55 <aloniv> thankfully no important data is lost as it's mainly used with debian on sd card and i even got midori 0.5.5 working on it a few days ago :)
Sep 04 07:31:08 <aloniv> it has some sort of noscript which is neat...
Sep 04 07:31:44 <aloniv> nojs it's called there
Sep 04 08:05:51 <PaulFertser> aloniv: buzz-fix is not related to the echo
Sep 04 08:06:21 <aloniv> yeah but the non-buzz-fixed one has lots of echo no matter the settings
Sep 04 08:06:44 <PaulFertser> aloniv: the echo is due to mechanical coupling, and if I lower the speaker enough for Calypso to suppress it, I can't hear what the other party says when I'm on an underground train.
Sep 04 08:07:01 <PaulFertser> Non-buzz-fixed doesn't make any sense at all anyway.
Sep 04 08:07:51 <aloniv> i have two: a non-buzz fixed one and a buzz-fixed one. i couldn't get people to hear me without echo on non-buzz fixed one
Sep 04 08:08:45 <PaulFertser> Using non-buzz fixed one makes no sense, imho.
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