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May 24 15:53:43 <OmSai> is it safe to try replicant on a GTA02 (datecode 20080717)?
May 24 16:13:48 <dos1> OmSai: it shouldn't explode (I guess), so it should be safe ;)
May 24 16:14:31 <OmSai> dos1: ^_^  Do you know if the install process writes to NAND keeping my NOR u-boot safe?
May 24 16:14:44 <dos1> but is there a replicant image for gta02? :o
May 24 16:15:07 <dos1> OmSai: NOR is read-only by default
May 24 16:15:11 <OmSai> dos1: no, there is one for gta04 and I was curious what would happen putting it on
May 24 16:15:18 <dos1> aah, it won't work
May 24 16:15:58 <OmSai> dos1: how much trouble do you think it would it be for an attempt to to get replicant working on the gta02?
May 24 16:16:02 <dos1> there was some Android on Freerunner project long time ago and I remember booting it successfuly once on my device
May 24 16:16:20 <dos1> OmSai: with recent android versions it would be a big trouble I guess
May 24 16:16:54 <dos1> android from very beginning didn't support armv4 cpus, all freerunner ports had to rewrite armv5 specific bits
May 24 16:17:13 <dos1> and now it's probably mostly armv7 :P
May 24 16:17:28 <OmSai> dos1: thanks for explaining; I understand now
May 24 16:17:46 <OmSai> I've got a developer used gta02 with no OS on the NAND
May 24 16:18:13 <dos1> I recommend SHR or QtMoko
May 24 16:18:15 <OmSai> so maybe the easiest would be to try SHR documented on the openmoko wiki
May 24 16:18:51 <OmSai> I don't know which project is most active though
May 24 16:19:00 <OmSai> and I know replicant was, hence my interest in that
May 24 16:19:09 <OmSai> s/project/distro project/
May 24 16:19:43 <dos1> SHR and QtMoko are probably the only one distros for gta02 that are somewhat active
May 24 16:21:06 <dos1> but only single devs are remaining
May 24 16:22:48 <OmSai> I wanted to try the gentoo distro port since that's what I normally work with, but the gentoo links are broken and devs have so far been unresponsive on IRC and e-mail
May 24 16:23:25 <dos1> yep, it's been six years since FR was released - most of projects like that are already dead
May 24 16:23:39 <dos1> Debian should work I guess
May 24 16:27:33 <OmSai> I think I'll try Debian first then under the assumption it will be maintained longer, and then SHR
May 24 16:29:50 <dos1> OmSai: well, Debian for sure should be still maintained for a while ;)
May 24 16:30:02 <dos1> but keep in mind that's it's just a standard Debian installation, like on your PC
May 24 16:30:24 <dos1> and it's your job to install and configure apps that can make it usable as a phone
May 24 16:30:42 <dos1> (there are FSO and SHR apps in Debian repos)
May 24 16:31:09 <OmSai> dos1: I'm used to have to configure everything from using gentoo, so that's a bit of an advantage in my eyes :)
May 24 16:31:16 <dos1> good :)
May 24 16:31:30 <OmSai> more choice instead of choices made for you
May 24 16:32:18 <OmSai> dos1: thanks for your insightful discussion.  time to read more and play around
May 24 16:35:05 <dos1> yw :)
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